Christine Michael vs. Carlos Hyde

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Christine Michael vs. Carlos Hyde

Postby jetsfan5757 » Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:53 pm

Sorry if this thread already exists, but I didn't see it. (Looking on my phone and went through a few pages of search results).

Anyways, Christine Michael or Carlos Hyde. Who do you prefer for the rest of this year? And beyond?
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Re: Christine Michael vs. Carlos Hyde

Postby wildabeast49 » Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:59 pm

Hyde for both for me. Clearer path to workload, less consistent injury issues.
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Re: Christine Michael vs. Carlos Hyde

Postby ajmyk » Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:06 am

I like Michael more, but that's just liking him.

Fantasy wise, Hyde is more valuable.
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Re: Christine Michael vs. Carlos Hyde

Postby Jimmy Jones » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:12 am

If defenitely trade my CMike straight up for Hyde if I had the option.
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Re: Christine Michael vs. Carlos Hyde

Postby evorzan » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:34 am

Jimmy Jones wrote:If defenitely trade my CMike straight up for Hyde if I had the option.
I made this offer in each league that I owned CMike early in the year. It was rejected by each owner in each league with different scoring.
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Re: Christine Michael vs. Carlos Hyde

Postby MEuRaH » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:40 am

If I owned Hyde and someone offered me CMike, I'd stay put.

If I owned CMike and someone offered me Hyde, I'd stay put.

Honestly, it's all up in the air. I am a 49er fan and I like Hyde and all, but sometimes I gotta cringe at how terrible he is right through the A gaps. All of his runs are off-tackle, and I don't understand why. Poor vision? Scares me.
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Re: Christine Michael vs. Carlos Hyde

Postby Jfever » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:14 am

Ha. I was wondering if anyone else saw that. Lots of rb's get ripped for that and I've never heard / read someone relate that to Hydes game and I remember seeing it while he was in Ohio.

For me it's a push between these two but I lean slightly toward Christian Micheal. I think Beast mode is near done in Seattle and My gut tells me SF will be more rbbc than Hyde owners will like.
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Re: Christine Michael vs. Carlos Hyde

Postby jetsfan5757 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:23 pm

Turbin isn't too shabby and I could see Seattle being a little bit RBBC too, no?
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Re: Christine Michael vs. Carlos Hyde

Postby captain_insano » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:32 pm

I thought they might use C Mike a little more by now if they were planning to use him as the lead back next year.

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Re: Christine Michael vs. Carlos Hyde

Postby flyersfan1981 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:10 pm

captain_insano wrote:I thought they might use C Mike a little more by now if they were planning to use him as the lead back next year.
Two schools of thought:

A) They are not convinced he is the guy and don't believe in him, or

B) They have no plans of having Lynch next year so they figure they will just run him into the ground and cut him in the offseason, where CMike will be fresh

Which school of thought is right I have no idea, but a case can be made either way for CMike not getting more carries.
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Re: Christine Michael vs. Carlos Hyde

Postby captain_insano » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:14 pm

flyersfan1981 wrote:
captain_insano wrote:I thought they might use C Mike a little more by now if they were planning to use him as the lead back next year.
Two schools of thought:

A) They are not convinced he is the guy and don't believe in him, or

B) They have no plans of having Lynch next year so they figure they will just run him into the ground and cut him in the offseason, where CMike will be fresh

Which school of thought is right I have no idea, but a case can be made either way for CMike not getting more carries.
Wish I knew cause I have him in a couple leagues.

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Re: Christine Michael vs. Carlos Hyde

Postby flyersfan1981 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:29 pm

captain_insano wrote:
flyersfan1981 wrote:
captain_insano wrote:I thought they might use C Mike a little more by now if they were planning to use him as the lead back next year.
Two schools of thought:

A) They are not convinced he is the guy and don't believe in him, or

B) They have no plans of having Lynch next year so they figure they will just run him into the ground and cut him in the offseason, where CMike will be fresh

Which school of thought is right I have no idea, but a case can be made either way for CMike not getting more carries.
Wish I knew cause I have him in a couple leagues.
Of course we all wish we knew, but that has been the allure of owning CMike. He is not for the impatient owner. He will get his shot, and then we will find out if he was worth it or not. Hopefully it is next year, and I still think they will part with Lynch, but who knows. Even the Seattle FO doesn't know.
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Re: Christine Michael vs. Carlos Hyde

Postby Pork Sword » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:38 pm

flyersfan1981 wrote:
captain_insano wrote:I thought they might use C Mike a little more by now if they were planning to use him as the lead back next year.
Two schools of thought:

A) They are not convinced he is the guy and don't believe in him, or

B) They have no plans of having Lynch next year so they figure they will just run him into the ground and cut him in the offseason, where CMike will be fresh

Which school of thought is right I have no idea, but a case can be made either way for CMike not getting more carries.
I'm not sure how anyone can actually buy in to plan B. Keeping him fresh? Sounds like some BS to me. If he was good enough, they would be working him in, getting him the 2nd team reps when Lynch needs a breather. By keeping him fresh....I should say inactive, they stunt his growth as a NFL rb. You mean to tell me he's just going to walk in and replace beast mode with only 33 career rushes under his belt? Yeah, I didn't think so. Now, I'm not a CM hater, and I think he's got some talent(he sure has looked good in the preseason games I've seen). But if he was the bonfide stud most think he will be, why can't he get carries over Turbin?

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Re: Christine Michael vs. Carlos Hyde

Postby FiremanEd » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:19 pm

I like CMike as a talent more, but the way in which Seattle has built him into the gameplan to date concerns me. I'm not as sold on Hyde as a talent, but feel more safe with him as at minimum a guy I will get some solid years out of in the future. I'm holding CMike because for me he's the higher potential guy and low on my depth chart, but I'd probably go Hyde if i wanted to play it safe.

Lynch is a monster, and Turbin is a solid backup, so from that perspective I understand the role thus far, as Hyde doesn't have nearly that talent ahead of him, but my points above still apply..

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Re: Christine Michael vs. Carlos Hyde

Postby ninotoreS » Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:07 am

I'd prefer Hyde at this point, but it's a very marginal preference.

Both guys are far from guarantees; I only prefer Hyde because I think he poses less risk than Michael (it's still not guaranteed Lynch is gone next season, and although he's certainly built for it, technically Michael hasn't objectively proven he can handle a feature-back load yet).


Michael pros:

+ truly freakish weight/speed/explosion ratios; sky is the limit, athletically
+ likely to be more involved than Hyde as a pass-catcher (nice for weekly floor)

Michael cons:

- never carried a full-load in college
- durability is a question-mark
- it's not impossible Lynch remains a Seahawk an additional season

Hyde pros:

+ 100% proven as a full-load capable guy
+ Gore is a free-agent in 2015; Hyde was clearly picked to replace him

Hyde cons:

- not nearly as explosive as Michael
- Niner RBs have been annoyingly underused as pass-catchers since Roman took over as OC
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