Fair starting offer for Gordon?

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Fair starting offer for Gordon?

Postby waynesworld1234 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:23 pm

I want to acquire Gordon from another owner, but I want to make sure I offer a fair initial offer. The pieces I wouldn't mind parting with for Gordon are Shane Vereen, Ben Tate, Demarco Murray, Larry Fitzgerald, Brandon Marshall, and My 1st pick. He's in dead last and in full rebuild so I know it's going to be a tough sell and there may not even be a possible deal here. What would your initial offer be? It's 1/2 point PPR and we start 2 RB, 2 WR, and 1 Flex. Thanks for the help!

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Re: Fair starting offer for Gordon?

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Re: Fair starting offer for Gordon?

Postby waynesworld1234 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:35 pm

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Re: Fair starting offer for Gordon?

Postby thebeast » Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:40 pm

Gordon owners won't like it, but I would probably start with an offer of Vereen, Tate, and the 1st. I think any team in full rebuild mode is only going to be interested in young pieces and Fitz, and Marshall may be too old to get the other owner interested. Murray could be a possible piece in place of either of the RBs, it all depends on how you and the other owner views him.

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Re: Fair starting offer for Gordon?

Postby waynesworld1234 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:45 pm

He isn't that high on Murray. I forgot to post this as well, but this is his team.

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Re: Fair starting offer for Gordon?

Postby Bandonij » Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:46 pm

thebeast wrote:Gordon owners won't like it, but I would probably start with an offer of Vereen, Tate, and the 1st. I think any team in full rebuild mode is only going to be interested in young pieces and Fitz, and Marshall may be too old to get the other owner interested. Murray could be a possible piece in place of either of the RBs, it all depends on how you and the other owner views him.
^I would agree with this. Your best pieces are Fitz and Marshall, so it depends on how he views their longevity. I'm a Gordon owner and view him as almost untradeable. But a package of Marshall, a 1st, and Vereen/Tate would make make me think long and hard.
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Re: Fair starting offer for Gordon?

Postby slaughterrt » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:43 pm

Vereen, a 1st and Marsh is probably the best package you can send. Vereen is young and is valuable especially in any ppr league. Marshall I would say over Fitz only because of their current production. I think Fitz is more talented, but talent is only part if the equation. A 1st round pick is a 1st round pick. Vereen and the pick is nice for a rebuild team, but your vet WRs might be on the downhill when the other team is competing. I honestly don't see a deal coming together as Gordon's value might be at its peak. If you can pull something together, then more power to you. Good luck.

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Re: Fair starting offer for Gordon?

Postby auggiedoggies » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:44 pm

slaughterrt wrote:Vereen, a 1st and Marsh is probably the best package you can send. Vereen is young and is valuable especially in any ppr league. Marshall I would say over Fitz only because of their current production. I think Fitz is more talented, but talent is only part if the equation. A 1st round pick is a 1st round pick. Vereen and the pick is nice for a rebuild team, but your vet WRs might be on the downhill when the other team is competing. I honestly don't see a deal coming together as Gordon's value might be at its peak. If you can pull something together, then more power to you. Good luck.
Wow. Is the Gordon hype this high?? Vereen, a 1st, and B Marsh? Jeebus :wtf:
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Re: Fair starting offer for Gordon?

Postby tjason1 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:02 pm

It seems tremendously bad timing to target Gordon right now. It's the definition of buying high. You're almost certainly going to be paying an outlandish price.

I know the Gordon owner in my league has turned down better offers than Marshall/Vereen/1st and that was even before his second huge game.
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Re: Fair starting offer for Gordon?

Postby maxhyde » Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:08 pm

Marshall and a 1st should be enough but I wouldn't expect he will trade him after the past 2 weeks.

I agree very bad timing to target him. 24/498 and 3TD's is half a season for solid WR's and Gordon has done that in 2 games...with Brandon Weeden no less
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Re: Fair starting offer for Gordon?

Postby slaughterrt » Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:26 pm

auggiedoggies wrote:
slaughterrt wrote:Vereen, a 1st and Marsh is probably the best package you can send. Vereen is young and is valuable especially in any ppr league. Marshall I would say over Fitz only because of their current production. I think Fitz is more talented, but talent is only part if the equation. A 1st round pick is a 1st round pick. Vereen and the pick is nice for a rebuild team, but your vet WRs might be on the downhill when the other team is competing. I honestly don't see a deal coming together as Gordon's value might be at its peak. If you can pull something together, then more power to you. Good luck.
Wow. Is the Gordon hype this high?? Vereen, a 1st, and B Marsh? Jeebus :wtf:
For a rebuilding team to trade away his best young guy after a tremendous few games and an elite season...you are going to have to overpay and the guy's value is at its peak. If you want to try to get the deal done, then you gotta pay.

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Re: Fair starting offer for Gordon?

Postby BAMtastic » Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:41 pm

forget gordon and grab keenan allen will be nearly as good and cost you less

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Re: Fair starting offer for Gordon?

Postby flashgordon12 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 5:59 pm

DO NOT trade for Gordon now, his value is at an all-time high. I have him and I've been following him closely for awhile. While i think he is a stud, it would be foolish to try to buy him after two huge games. The tricky part is his value is bound to go up after the Browns draft a qb this summer. So I would wait til the offseason because he is bound to cool off a little bit and then try to trade him before the draft. Then you should be able to get a good deal
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Re: Fair starting offer for Gordon?

Postby Dingram » Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:19 pm

BAMtastic wrote:forget gordon and grab keenan allen will be nearly as good and cost you less
I kind of agree here. Don't get me wrong, I own Gordon. Love having him. But agree with the rest that it would take an extreme overpay at this moment to acquire him. Allen is only 20 years old. Maybe never reach the elite status that Gordon seems to be heading, but Allen should be a very valuable piece moving forward

Also the offer of Tate/Vereen/1st would get rejected quickly from me for Gordon. Marshall package is enticing, but would be nervous with this talk of Cutler hitting FA. If Cutler moves on BMarsh would drop a few in my rankings, while Alshon would move up a couple spots

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Re: Fair starting offer for Gordon?

Postby dblj1199 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:57 pm

Gordon with a NFL caliber qb will be a beast, only problem is everyone knows this. And after his past few weeks he is a buy HIGH player right now. If I were a Gordon owner it would take a ton to get him. I just traded Nelson, Moreno, Stacy and a 1st for AJ and I think Gordon is getting close to that level. I agree with the others, go after Allen, he will be a to wr and come much cheaper.
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