1.04 + ? to tier up to ?
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1.04 + ? to tier up to ?
12 team league, PPR, start 1 QB, 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 non QB flex. For team 1 below. Shallow league. Adding MHJ and Nabers. 1.04 is a bonus pick. Could trade back or try to tier up. Who would you aim for and who would you offer on top of 1.04 (if you think it's a wise move)? JJ, Chase, ARSB for 1.04 + Olave? Hall and Gibbs are not available, so WR is about it. Thoughts?
Team 1:
QB: Stroud, Geno, Minshew
RB: Bijan, ETN, R White, Z White, Pacheco
WR: Lamb, Nakua, Olave, Dell, Pickens, Shakir, Iosivas, Burks
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 two 1sts
Team 2:
QB: Lawrence, Stafford
RB: Hall, Taylor, Z White, Javonte Williams, Dobbins
WR: Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Deebo, DK, Ridley, Addison
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.12, 3.10, 4.10
QB: Stroud, Geno, Minshew
RB: Bijan, ETN, R White, Z White, Pacheco
WR: Lamb, Nakua, Olave, Dell, Pickens, Shakir, Iosivas, Burks
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 two 1sts
Team 2:
QB: Lawrence, Stafford
RB: Hall, Taylor, Z White, Javonte Williams, Dobbins
WR: Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Deebo, DK, Ridley, Addison
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.12, 3.10, 4.10
Re: 1.04 + ? to tier up to ?
Wow. Stacked team. I 100% would send Olave/1.04 for Chase, ARSB or JJ. I'd add a future 2nd if I had to. I'm worried Olave is Tee Higgins which doesn't help much in this format and with that roster.
Re: 1.04 + ? to tier up to ?
I'd take Brooks with 1.04 pick and be excited that he was there.
The big alternative would be to trade down to about 1.08 and take Caleb or Daniels with that pick. This is 1qb but your backup QB situation is a horror story. Or maybe you trade back for a QB+2025first.
Either way, I'd be happy going into the 2024 season with your current WRs+MHJr+Nabers. No need to add another receiver to that lineup.
The big alternative would be to trade down to about 1.08 and take Caleb or Daniels with that pick. This is 1qb but your backup QB situation is a horror story. Or maybe you trade back for a QB+2025first.
Either way, I'd be happy going into the 2024 season with your current WRs+MHJr+Nabers. No need to add another receiver to that lineup.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver, Waller
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver, Waller
2023 semifinals loser
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Re: 1.04 + ? to tier up to ?
Answer: As a JJ owner, I'd want at least 1.04 + Olave + another early first (or a guy like London or Waddle) on top for a Jefferson or Chase.
Note: Your team is pretty stacked and studs rule in shallow leagues, so really I wouldn't even consider trading any of those guys to you just to prevent your team from being even harder to beat. No sense in tiering down for pieces IMO.
Good luck either way.
Note: Your team is pretty stacked and studs rule in shallow leagues, so really I wouldn't even consider trading any of those guys to you just to prevent your team from being even harder to beat. No sense in tiering down for pieces IMO.
Good luck either way.
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Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 W/T, 2 R/W/T, 1 PK, 3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 2 IDP
2015: 7th
2016: 4th
2017: 8th
2018: 3rd
2019: 6th
2020: 1st
2021: 2nd
2022: 2nd
2023: 1st![🏆](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f3c6.svg)
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 W/T, 2 R/W/T, 1 PK, 3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 2 IDP
2015: 7th
2016: 4th
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2017: 8th
2018: 3rd
2019: 6th
2020: 1st
2021: 2nd
2022: 2nd
2023: 1st
Re: 1.04 + ? to tier up to ?
I like the thought of adding one of these three but 1.04 is a tier down for WR rookies because the first three will be gone and if I had JJ for example, Olave is a great piece but I lose the top 2 WR overall. I do agree if you want to go this route, you will need to add a bit more but it shouldn’t hamstring you in the future. Do you know if any of these three other owners are actually listening for deals for their WR1?
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Re: 1.04 + ? to tier up to ?
This is what I was thinking. Keep the pick and get the RB or trade down.Anteaters wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 1:14 am I'd take Brooks with 1.04 pick and be excited that he was there.
The big alternative would be to trade down to about 1.08 and take Caleb or Daniels with that pick. This is 1qb but your backup QB situation is a horror story. Or maybe you trade back for a QB+2025first.
Either way, I'd be happy going into the 2024 season with your current WRs+MHJr+Nabers. No need to add another receiver to that lineup.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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Re: 1.04 + ? to tier up to ?
TheTroll wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 4:20 amI like the thought of adding one of these three but 1.04 is a tier down for WR rookies because the first three will be gone and if I had JJ for example, Olave is a great piece but I lose the top 2 WR overall. I do agree if you want to go this route, you will need to add a bit more but it shouldn’t hamstring you in the future. Do you know if any of these three other owners are actually listening for deals for their WR1?
The Chase owner is always willing to listen to offers. He'd rightly only move him if I overpay, but it may be worth it. I like the idea of taking Brooks as well.
Team 1:
QB: Stroud, Geno, Minshew
RB: Bijan, ETN, R White, Z White, Pacheco
WR: Lamb, Nakua, Olave, Dell, Pickens, Shakir, Iosivas, Burks
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 two 1sts
Team 2:
QB: Lawrence, Stafford
RB: Hall, Taylor, Z White, Javonte Williams, Dobbins
WR: Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Deebo, DK, Ridley, Addison
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.12, 3.10, 4.10
QB: Stroud, Geno, Minshew
RB: Bijan, ETN, R White, Z White, Pacheco
WR: Lamb, Nakua, Olave, Dell, Pickens, Shakir, Iosivas, Burks
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 two 1sts
Team 2:
QB: Lawrence, Stafford
RB: Hall, Taylor, Z White, Javonte Williams, Dobbins
WR: Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Deebo, DK, Ridley, Addison
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.12, 3.10, 4.10
Re: 1.04 + ? to tier up to ?
Brooks would be my fall back plan. (A BATNA to us negotiation nerds). Knowing you have that option will help ensure you don't overpay too much. But I'd make a run at Chase for sure.Randomguess wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 5:25 amTheTroll wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 4:20 amI like the thought of adding one of these three but 1.04 is a tier down for WR rookies because the first three will be gone and if I had JJ for example, Olave is a great piece but I lose the top 2 WR overall. I do agree if you want to go this route, you will need to add a bit more but it shouldn’t hamstring you in the future. Do you know if any of these three other owners are actually listening for deals for their WR1?
The Chase owner is always willing to listen to offers. He'd rightly only move him if I overpay, but it may be worth it. I like the idea of taking Brooks as well.
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Re: 1.04 + ? to tier up to ?
Would you add a '25 3rd onto the offer? (I don't have a 2nd). Or offer Spears? I know you are a Spears truther. Could keep it simple and start with Olave + 1.04 and see what he says.tstafford wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 8:03 amBrooks would be my fall back plan. (A BATNA to us negotiation nerds). Knowing you have that option will help ensure you don't overpay too much. But I'd make a run at Chase for sure.Randomguess wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 5:25 amTheTroll wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 4:20 am
I like the thought of adding one of these three but 1.04 is a tier down for WR rookies because the first three will be gone and if I had JJ for example, Olave is a great piece but I lose the top 2 WR overall. I do agree if you want to go this route, you will need to add a bit more but it shouldn’t hamstring you in the future. Do you know if any of these three other owners are actually listening for deals for their WR1?
The Chase owner is always willing to listen to offers. He'd rightly only move him if I overpay, but it may be worth it. I like the idea of taking Brooks as well.
Team 1:
QB: Stroud, Geno, Minshew
RB: Bijan, ETN, R White, Z White, Pacheco
WR: Lamb, Nakua, Olave, Dell, Pickens, Shakir, Iosivas, Burks
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 two 1sts
Team 2:
QB: Lawrence, Stafford
RB: Hall, Taylor, Z White, Javonte Williams, Dobbins
WR: Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Deebo, DK, Ridley, Addison
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.12, 3.10, 4.10
QB: Stroud, Geno, Minshew
RB: Bijan, ETN, R White, Z White, Pacheco
WR: Lamb, Nakua, Olave, Dell, Pickens, Shakir, Iosivas, Burks
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 two 1sts
Team 2:
QB: Lawrence, Stafford
RB: Hall, Taylor, Z White, Javonte Williams, Dobbins
WR: Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Deebo, DK, Ridley, Addison
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.12, 3.10, 4.10
Re: 1.04 + ? to tier up to ?
Sure didn’t expect to see a BATNA reference in the DLF forum loltstafford wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 8:03 amBrooks would be my fall back plan. (A BATNA to us negotiation nerds). Knowing you have that option will help ensure you don't overpay too much. But I'd make a run at Chase for sure.Randomguess wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 5:25 amTheTroll wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 4:20 am
I like the thought of adding one of these three but 1.04 is a tier down for WR rookies because the first three will be gone and if I had JJ for example, Olave is a great piece but I lose the top 2 WR overall. I do agree if you want to go this route, you will need to add a bit more but it shouldn’t hamstring you in the future. Do you know if any of these three other owners are actually listening for deals for their WR1?
The Chase owner is always willing to listen to offers. He'd rightly only move him if I overpay, but it may be worth it. I like the idea of taking Brooks as well.
Team 1 (Rebuild ): 12-tm SF 0.5PPR/1.0PP1D
QB: Williams, Young, Tannehill
RB: Herbert, Akers, Gibson, Wilson, Abanikanda
WR: MHJ, Nabers, Flowers, Pickens, Dotson, Downs, Chark, Boyd, Douglas
TE: Knox
Picks: 3 ‘25 1s, 4 ‘25 2s, ‘25 3
Team 2: 14-tm SF PPR/1.5TEP
QB: Burrow, Wilson, Lance
RB: JT, Mixon, Pollard, Laube, Guerendo, Hill, Patterson, Hines
WR: Hill, Cooper, DK, DJM, D. Samuel, Sutton
TE: Freiermuth, Gesicki, Hudson
Picks: ‘25 3rd, ‘25 4th
Team 3 10-tm SF PPR
QB: Mahomes, Dak, Watson, Jones
RB: JT, AK, Jacobs, Brooks, Benson, Zeke, Singletary
WR: AJB, Diggs, Allen, Cooper, Wilson, Kirk, Sutton, Williams, Bateman, E. Moore
TE: Goedert, Bowers, Schultz, Granson, Hill
QB: Williams, Young, Tannehill
RB: Herbert, Akers, Gibson, Wilson, Abanikanda
WR: MHJ, Nabers, Flowers, Pickens, Dotson, Downs, Chark, Boyd, Douglas
TE: Knox
Picks: 3 ‘25 1s, 4 ‘25 2s, ‘25 3
Team 2: 14-tm SF PPR/1.5TEP
QB: Burrow, Wilson, Lance
RB: JT, Mixon, Pollard, Laube, Guerendo, Hill, Patterson, Hines
WR: Hill, Cooper, DK, DJM, D. Samuel, Sutton
TE: Freiermuth, Gesicki, Hudson
Picks: ‘25 3rd, ‘25 4th
Team 3 10-tm SF PPR
QB: Mahomes, Dak, Watson, Jones
RB: JT, AK, Jacobs, Brooks, Benson, Zeke, Singletary
WR: AJB, Diggs, Allen, Cooper, Wilson, Kirk, Sutton, Williams, Bateman, E. Moore
TE: Goedert, Bowers, Schultz, Granson, Hill
Re: 1.04 + ? to tier up to ?
I'd start with Olave/1.04. Would gladly add the 3rd and would also a little less gladly add Spears. I want Chase and I'd pay to get him.Randomguess wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 8:12 amWould you add a '25 3rd onto the offer? (I don't have a 2nd). Or offer Spears? I know you are a Spears truther. Could keep it simple and start with Olave + 1.04 and see what he says.tstafford wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 8:03 amBrooks would be my fall back plan. (A BATNA to us negotiation nerds). Knowing you have that option will help ensure you don't overpay too much. But I'd make a run at Chase for sure.Randomguess wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 5:25 am
The Chase owner is always willing to listen to offers. He'd rightly only move him if I overpay, but it may be worth it. I like the idea of taking Brooks as well.
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Re: 1.04 + ? to tier up to ?
Will do. Thank you very muchtstafford wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 8:24 amI'd start with Olave/1.04. Would gladly add the 3rd and would also a little less gladly add Spears. I want Chase and I'd pay to get him.Randomguess wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 8:12 amWould you add a '25 3rd onto the offer? (I don't have a 2nd). Or offer Spears? I know you are a Spears truther. Could keep it simple and start with Olave + 1.04 and see what he says.
Team 1:
QB: Stroud, Geno, Minshew
RB: Bijan, ETN, R White, Z White, Pacheco
WR: Lamb, Nakua, Olave, Dell, Pickens, Shakir, Iosivas, Burks
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 two 1sts
Team 2:
QB: Lawrence, Stafford
RB: Hall, Taylor, Z White, Javonte Williams, Dobbins
WR: Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Deebo, DK, Ridley, Addison
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.12, 3.10, 4.10
QB: Stroud, Geno, Minshew
RB: Bijan, ETN, R White, Z White, Pacheco
WR: Lamb, Nakua, Olave, Dell, Pickens, Shakir, Iosivas, Burks
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 two 1sts
Team 2:
QB: Lawrence, Stafford
RB: Hall, Taylor, Z White, Javonte Williams, Dobbins
WR: Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Deebo, DK, Ridley, Addison
TE: Laporta, Andrews
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.12, 3.10, 4.10
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