Startup SF: Caleb vs Burrow
Startup SF: Caleb vs Burrow
Essentially the title but who would you rather have in a startup Superflex?
QB: Stroud, Lawrence, Daniels, Howell, AOC
RB: Brooks, Lloyd, Hubbard, Gibson, K. Mitchell, Dowdle, Tracy
WR: Lamb, St. Brown, London, Harrison, Addison, Dell, Doubs, R. Wilson
TE: Bowers, Schultz, Freiermuth
RB: Brooks, Lloyd, Hubbard, Gibson, K. Mitchell, Dowdle, Tracy
WR: Lamb, St. Brown, London, Harrison, Addison, Dell, Doubs, R. Wilson
TE: Bowers, Schultz, Freiermuth
Re: Startup SF: Caleb vs Burrow
In one hand you have a top tier QB in Burrow and in the other hand is a mystery box that could be a bust or a top tier QB.
Which one you going with?
Which one you going with?
Main Home League
12 Team 1 QB PPR
-Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and 2 Flex
QB: Anthony Richardson, Sam Darnold
RB: Nobody worth mentioning
WR: Justin Jefferson, ARSB, Olave, Nico Collins, Tyquan Thornton, Marvin Mims, Tre Tucker, Bell, Austin,
TE: McBride and Dulcich
Draft Picks
-1.02, 3.01 and 4 24 4ths.
-3 25 1sts, 1 25 2nd, 3 25 3rds and 3 25 4ths
-2 26 1sts, 2 26 2nds, 1 26 3rd, and1 26 4th
2022 Champions in full rebuild. Looking to contend again in 2025.
12 Team 1 QB PPR
-Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and 2 Flex
QB: Anthony Richardson, Sam Darnold
RB: Nobody worth mentioning
WR: Justin Jefferson, ARSB, Olave, Nico Collins, Tyquan Thornton, Marvin Mims, Tre Tucker, Bell, Austin,
TE: McBride and Dulcich
Draft Picks
-1.02, 3.01 and 4 24 4ths.
-3 25 1sts, 1 25 2nd, 3 25 3rds and 3 25 4ths
-2 26 1sts, 2 26 2nds, 1 26 3rd, and1 26 4th
2022 Champions in full rebuild. Looking to contend again in 2025.
Re: Startup SF: Caleb vs Burrow
Burrow but it’s close
Re: Startup SF: Caleb vs Burrow
Burrow
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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Re: Startup SF: Caleb vs Burrow
The answer is burrow. But... I don't think burrow will ever be valued as a top 3-4 QB. If you don't mind taking the risk, I think Caleb could be more valuable than burrow as early as next year.
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
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BigBawseRoss
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Re: Startup SF: Caleb vs Burrow
caleb for me. hes gonna ball out and hasnt had multiple season ending injuries
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
Re: Startup SF: Caleb vs Burrow
Burrows and its not close.
16 teamer
QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP
Team 2 recent rod 16 team SF/TEP(2pt PPR) 1-2 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 wrs and 1-2 TE full IDP.
QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin
QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP
Team 2 recent rod 16 team SF/TEP(2pt PPR) 1-2 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 wrs and 1-2 TE full IDP.
QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin
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yellowdart2448
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Re: Startup SF: Caleb vs Burrow
This reminds me of a classic family guy episode....
Ho-ho-hold on! You have a choice. You can take the boat... or the mystery box!
We'll take the boat.
Hold on. Not so fast, Lois! A boat is a boat. But the mystery box can be anything... it can even be a boat! You know how much we've wanted one of those.
Then lets just
We'll take the box!
We'll take the box... you traded a boat for two free tickets to the comedy club!
Come on, Lois... you act like this is the first time I did anything stupid.
Last edited by yellowdart2448 on Tue May 07, 2024 5:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Startup SF: Caleb vs Burrow
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TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
Re: Startup SF: Caleb vs Burrow
I think back to last year and if pre season I asked Stroud vs. Burrow, it would have been Burrow easily. I don't think it is crazy to project Caleb to be valued higher a year from now. So if they are being drafted so closely, isn't it just risk tolerance to take Caleb and the 5 additional years of youth? I also don't think it is crazy to think Caleb could run more and have a higher ceiling than Burrow.
Maybe my take here means I actually prefer Caleb haha.
Maybe my take here means I actually prefer Caleb haha.
QB: Stroud, Lawrence, Daniels, Howell, AOC
RB: Brooks, Lloyd, Hubbard, Gibson, K. Mitchell, Dowdle, Tracy
WR: Lamb, St. Brown, London, Harrison, Addison, Dell, Doubs, R. Wilson
TE: Bowers, Schultz, Freiermuth
RB: Brooks, Lloyd, Hubbard, Gibson, K. Mitchell, Dowdle, Tracy
WR: Lamb, St. Brown, London, Harrison, Addison, Dell, Doubs, R. Wilson
TE: Bowers, Schultz, Freiermuth
Re: Startup SF: Caleb vs Burrow
But in this case, the boat has had trouble lately landing when the waves are rough, thereby being stuck in the marina. The boat used to run pretty darn well, but is that always what you’ll get with an older boat that’s been repaired a few times. Good as new?yellowdart2448 wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:50 amThis reminds me of a classic family guy episode....
Ho-ho-hold on! You have a choice. You can a boat... or the mystery box!
We'll take the boat.
Hold on. Not so fast, Lois! A boat is a boat. But the mystery box can be anything... it can even be a boat! You know how much we've wanted one of those.
Then lets just
We'll take the box!
We'll take the box... you traded a boat for two free tickets to the comedy club!
Come on, Lois... you act like this is the first time I did anything stupid.
Wasteland
12-team, PPR 25 roster 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1(RB/WR/TE), 1 D/ST
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson
RB J. Taylor, B. Hall, D. Henry, D. Achane, K. Miller, R. Johnson, M. Sanders, T. Sermon, C. Patterson, P. Strong, K. Ingram, TDP
WR AJ Brown, J. Chase, C. Lamb, C. Ridley, JSN, G. Pickens, K. Osborn, J. Meyers, A. Pierce, T. Scott
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, G. Dulcich, J. Woods
D/ST MIN, PIT, DEN
Panthers
12-team SF, .5 PPR 35 roster: 1QB, 1SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 2DB, 2LB, 2DL, 1FLEX
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson, B. Mayfield, J. Winston, S. Howell
RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, N. Chubb, J. Kelley, K. Harris, J. Ford
WR T. Higgins, C. Ridley, J. Smith-Njigba, D. Hopkins, C. Godwin, J. Mingo
TE T. Kelce, K. Pitts, Z. Ertz, D. Goedert, J. Ferguson
DB R. Grant, J. Simmons
DL D. Hunter, A. Highsmith, S. Hubbard
LB C. Mosley, A. Singleton, P. Queen, D. Deablo
1.03, 2.03, 2.06, 3.05, 4.06
12-team, PPR 25 roster 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1(RB/WR/TE), 1 D/ST
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson
RB J. Taylor, B. Hall, D. Henry, D. Achane, K. Miller, R. Johnson, M. Sanders, T. Sermon, C. Patterson, P. Strong, K. Ingram, TDP
WR AJ Brown, J. Chase, C. Lamb, C. Ridley, JSN, G. Pickens, K. Osborn, J. Meyers, A. Pierce, T. Scott
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, G. Dulcich, J. Woods
D/ST MIN, PIT, DEN
Panthers
12-team SF, .5 PPR 35 roster: 1QB, 1SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 2DB, 2LB, 2DL, 1FLEX
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson, B. Mayfield, J. Winston, S. Howell
RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, N. Chubb, J. Kelley, K. Harris, J. Ford
WR T. Higgins, C. Ridley, J. Smith-Njigba, D. Hopkins, C. Godwin, J. Mingo
TE T. Kelce, K. Pitts, Z. Ertz, D. Goedert, J. Ferguson
DB R. Grant, J. Simmons
DL D. Hunter, A. Highsmith, S. Hubbard
LB C. Mosley, A. Singleton, P. Queen, D. Deablo
1.03, 2.03, 2.06, 3.05, 4.06
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Re: Startup SF: Caleb vs Burrow
I think the problem is he could be valued higher than Burrow next year but probably not significantly higher. If he for some reason is a bust he could be valued significantly lower
12 Team Superflex Best Ball PPR TEP +1.5
QB: Kyler, Tua, O’Connell
RB: Gibbs, Etienne, Pacheco, Javonte Williams, Chase Brown
WR: London, Higgins, Pickens, Tank Dell, Quentin Johnston, Ricky Pearsall, Troy Franklin
TE: McBride, Freiermuth
QB: Kyler, Tua, O’Connell
RB: Gibbs, Etienne, Pacheco, Javonte Williams, Chase Brown
WR: London, Higgins, Pickens, Tank Dell, Quentin Johnston, Ricky Pearsall, Troy Franklin
TE: McBride, Freiermuth
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Re: Startup SF: Caleb vs Burrow
Burrow for me.
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Re: Startup SF: Caleb vs Burrow
Give me Burrow. Caleb may have a higher FF ceiling, but carries significant bust risk compared to Burrow..Burrows value may not get higher but it’s not gonna get lower whereas Caleb’s could go higher or much lower in a year…
Team 1: 12 Team PPR, 2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE; 23 man rosters (typical scoring, except 2 pts per completion)
QBs: Josh Allen, Tua Tagovailoa, Derek Carr
RBs: Jonathan Taylor, Alvin Kamara, Zack Moss, Tyrone Tracy
WRs: Brandon Aiyuk, Jaylen Waddle, Michael Pittman, Terry McLaurin, Diontae Johnson, Malachi Corley
TEs: Trey McBride, Ja’Tavion Sanders
Draft Picks Remaining: 16.11,17.2,18.11,19.2,20.11,21.2,22.11,23.2
QBs: Josh Allen, Tua Tagovailoa, Derek Carr
RBs: Jonathan Taylor, Alvin Kamara, Zack Moss, Tyrone Tracy
WRs: Brandon Aiyuk, Jaylen Waddle, Michael Pittman, Terry McLaurin, Diontae Johnson, Malachi Corley
TEs: Trey McBride, Ja’Tavion Sanders
Draft Picks Remaining: 16.11,17.2,18.11,19.2,20.11,21.2,22.11,23.2
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