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Who is this year's Puka?

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:12 pm

I've been having a lot of discussions about Puka lately, and thought I'd ask, "So, who is this year's Puka?" What does that mean? To me, it's a WR you can get in the 4th round, a flier, that can be an elite player. Who is your guy?

I have two names, but there are probably a few

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D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Who is this year's Puka?

Postby mild » Wed May 01, 2024 2:52 am

No-one.

Chasing the outlier of all outliers? Best of luck.

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Re: Who is this year's Puka?

Postby Cameron Giles » Wed May 01, 2024 3:33 am

Close to every year there's an Amon Ra, Diggs, Purdy, Kittle and now Puka who blows up their Day 3 pedigree and becomes pretty good or elite. Then the year after people start retrofitting their college numbers to act like it was right in front of us the entire time.

Chasing dragons isn't a science.

I honestly have no idea. Cowing could be a slow burn steal, but he also has no path to production. You could probably name just about anyone and not necessarily be wrong.

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Re: Who is this year's Puka?

Postby Jigga94 » Wed May 01, 2024 4:08 am

CG is right. There's no way you're going to find another Puka.

I was really high on ARSB that year but he was still only my WR7 and that still wasn't high enough. Loved the FR breakout and the solid tape he put out. Had him above Toney and all the 3rd rd WR (Nico was the only hit), but still had ARSB behind Terrace Marshall :sick:

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Re: Who is this year's Puka?

Postby JTLoh » Wed May 01, 2024 6:31 am

First of all, don't listen to these losers. If you have a 4th round pick and you use it, you are in fact Chasing Dragons.
We all wanna find the Puka.

Brendon Rice
Don't over draft. But if you have a 4th, add him.
With 7th round draft capital, nobody will be taking him above the 4th.

In that WR room, he could get an opportunity where other guys you take in the 4th won't even get an opportunity. And Opportunity is the first factor in finding a Puka.
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QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks

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RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
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Re: Who is this year's Puka?

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed May 01, 2024 8:31 am

Every 4th round player is a flier. The guy that stood out, but IDK if he's a flier/sleeper is Conley being the YAC king. I'm talking about analytics. Cowing was another guy that had elite analytics. Puka had elite YPRR (2.75). Look at this—

Now let’s look at the

𝗧𝗢𝗣 𝟭𝟬 𝗖𝗢𝗟𝗟𝗘𝗚𝗘 𝗪𝗥’𝘀 in 𝗬𝗣𝗥𝗥: (𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟰 𝗗𝗲𝗰𝗹𝗮𝗿𝗲𝘀)

𝟭. 𝗠𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗸 𝗡𝗮𝗯𝗲𝗿𝘀 (𝟯.𝟲𝟰)
𝟮. 𝗠𝗮𝗿𝘃𝗶𝗻 𝗛𝗮𝗿𝗿𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗻 𝗝𝗿. (𝟯.𝟰𝟰)
𝟯. 𝗧𝗿𝗼𝘆 𝗙𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗸𝗹𝗶𝗻 (𝟯.𝟯𝟮)
𝟰. 𝗝𝗮𝘃𝗼𝗻 𝗕𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗿 (𝟯.𝟮𝟭)
𝟱. 𝗫𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗲𝗿 𝗟𝗲𝗴𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲 (𝟯.𝟭𝟱)
𝟲. 𝗠𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗸 𝗪𝗮𝘀𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴𝘁𝗼𝗻 (𝟯.𝟭𝟱)
𝟳. 𝗥𝗼𝗺𝗲 𝗢𝗱𝘂𝗻𝘇𝗲 (𝟮.𝟵𝟯)
𝟴. 𝗠𝗮𝗹𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶 𝗖𝗼𝗿𝗹𝗲𝘆 (𝟮.𝟳𝟴)

So Washington and Corley fit the bill here.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Who is this year's Puka?

Postby remedy29 » Wed May 01, 2024 8:57 am

Does Malachi Corley fit with this discussion? He was the 1st pick in round 3 of the NFL draft and currently a late 2nd / early 3rd rookie pick in SF.

All day 1 and day 2 NFL drafted players are on my radar. That is the list I start with.

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Re: Who is this year's Puka?

Postby Cameron Giles » Wed May 01, 2024 9:48 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:31 am Every 4th round player is a flier. The guy that stood out, but IDK if he's a flier/sleeper is Conley being the YAC king. I'm talking about analytics. Cowing was another guy that had elite analytics. Puka had elite YPRR (2.75). Look at this—

Now let’s look at the

𝗧𝗢𝗣 𝟭𝟬 𝗖𝗢𝗟𝗟𝗘𝗚𝗘 𝗪𝗥’𝘀 in 𝗬𝗣𝗥𝗥: (𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟰 𝗗𝗲𝗰𝗹𝗮𝗿𝗲𝘀)

𝟭. 𝗠𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗸 𝗡𝗮𝗯𝗲𝗿𝘀 (𝟯.𝟲𝟰)
𝟮. 𝗠𝗮𝗿𝘃𝗶𝗻 𝗛𝗮𝗿𝗿𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗻 𝗝𝗿. (𝟯.𝟰𝟰)
𝟯. 𝗧𝗿𝗼𝘆 𝗙𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗸𝗹𝗶𝗻 (𝟯.𝟯𝟮)
𝟰. 𝗝𝗮𝘃𝗼𝗻 𝗕𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗿 (𝟯.𝟮𝟭)
𝟱. 𝗫𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗲𝗿 𝗟𝗲𝗴𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲 (𝟯.𝟭𝟱)
𝟲. 𝗠𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗸 𝗪𝗮𝘀𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴𝘁𝗼𝗻 (𝟯.𝟭𝟱)
𝟳. 𝗥𝗼𝗺𝗲 𝗢𝗱𝘂𝗻𝘇𝗲 (𝟮.𝟵𝟯)
𝟴. 𝗠𝗮𝗹𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶 𝗖𝗼𝗿𝗹𝗲𝘆 (𝟮.𝟳𝟴)

So Washington and Corley fit the bill here.
This is a little misleading. Corley's career YPRR is 2.22. Also, a significant amount of his production came from screens and he has one of the lowest aDOTs in the class. 51.4% of his career receptions are from screens
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Re: Who is this year's Puka?

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed May 01, 2024 9:52 am

Nobody. This doesn't happen every year.
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Re: Who is this year's Puka?

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed May 01, 2024 9:55 am

JTLoh wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:31 am First of all, don't listen to these losers. If you have a 4th round pick and you use it, you are in fact Chasing Dragons.
We all wanna find the Puka.

Brendon Rice
Don't over draft. But if you have a 4th, add him.
With 7th round draft capital, nobody will be taking him above the 4th.

In that WR room, he could get an opportunity where other guys you take in the 4th won't even get an opportunity. And Opportunity is the first factor in finding a Puka.
Go play in traffic. You may find Devante Parker there.
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Foodie. Mild sauce goes in the trash. Well done steak goes with it.

Habaneros make the best hot sauce. Throwing a bunch of random stuff on top of fries doesn't mean you call it "poutine".

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Re: Who is this year's Puka?

Postby Bronco Billy » Wed May 01, 2024 9:58 am

JTLoh wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:31 am First of all, don't listen to these losers. If you have a 4th round pick and you use it, you are in fact Chasing Dragons.
We all wanna find the Puka.

Brendon Rice
Don't over draft. But if you have a 4th, add him.
With 7th round draft capital, nobody will be taking him above the 4th.

In that WR room, he could get an opportunity where other guys you take in the 4th won't even get an opportunity. And Opportunity is the first factor in finding a Puka.
So you’re the loser we’re supposed to listen to?

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Re: Who is this year's Puka?

Postby Cameron Giles » Wed May 01, 2024 9:59 am

JTLoh wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:31 am First of all, don't listen to these losers. If you have a 4th round pick and you use it, you are in fact Chasing Dragons.
We all wanna find the Puka.

Brendon Rice
Don't over draft. But if you have a 4th, add him.
With 7th round draft capital, nobody will be taking him above the 4th.

In that WR room, he could get an opportunity where other guys you take in the 4th won't even get an opportunity. And Opportunity is the first factor in finding a Puka.
I'm not saying you shouldn't try to find steals, because that makes no sense. I'm saying:

1. There's no science to it
2. Using stats Puka did well in to retrofit has too much hindsight bias.

So, really it could be any player or it could be none of them. I don't think it makes you a loser for being logical and understanding that.

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Re: Who is this year's Puka?

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed May 01, 2024 10:11 am

Cameron Giles wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 9:48 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:31 am Every 4th round player is a flier. The guy that stood out, but IDK if he's a flier/sleeper is Conley being the YAC king. I'm talking about analytics. Cowing was another guy that had elite analytics. Puka had elite YPRR (2.75). Look at this—

Now let’s look at the

𝗧𝗢𝗣 𝟭𝟬 𝗖𝗢𝗟𝗟𝗘𝗚𝗘 𝗪𝗥’𝘀 in 𝗬𝗣𝗥𝗥: (𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟰 𝗗𝗲𝗰𝗹𝗮𝗿𝗲𝘀)

𝟭. 𝗠𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗸 𝗡𝗮𝗯𝗲𝗿𝘀 (𝟯.𝟲𝟰)
𝟮. 𝗠𝗮𝗿𝘃𝗶𝗻 𝗛𝗮𝗿𝗿𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗻 𝗝𝗿. (𝟯.𝟰𝟰)
𝟯. 𝗧𝗿𝗼𝘆 𝗙𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗸𝗹𝗶𝗻 (𝟯.𝟯𝟮)
𝟰. 𝗝𝗮𝘃𝗼𝗻 𝗕𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗿 (𝟯.𝟮𝟭)
𝟱. 𝗫𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗲𝗿 𝗟𝗲𝗴𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲 (𝟯.𝟭𝟱)
𝟲. 𝗠𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗸 𝗪𝗮𝘀𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴𝘁𝗼𝗻 (𝟯.𝟭𝟱)
𝟳. 𝗥𝗼𝗺𝗲 𝗢𝗱𝘂𝗻𝘇𝗲 (𝟮.𝟵𝟯)
𝟴. 𝗠𝗮𝗹𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶 𝗖𝗼𝗿𝗹𝗲𝘆 (𝟮.𝟳𝟴)

So Washington and Corley fit the bill here.
This is a little misleading. Corley's career YPRR is 2.22. Also, a significant amount of his production came from screens and he has one of the lowest aDOTs in the class. 51.4% of his career receptions are from screens
True. Just looking for analytics, and I liked the DC, Jets moving up to get him.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Who is this year's Puka?

Postby Ice » Wed May 01, 2024 1:02 pm

Impossible to know but a Dark Horse WR that may outplay his draft position is Troy Franklin.

He gets to play catch with his college QB and familiarity could make a big difference with a young accurate rookie QB.
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Re: Who is this year's Puka?

Postby Ruggenater » Wed May 01, 2024 1:06 pm

Ice wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 1:02 pm Impossible to know but a Dark Horse WR that may outplay his draft position is Troy Franklin.

He gets to play catch with his college QB and familiarity could make a big difference with a young accurate rookie QB.
If Amon-Ra St Brown counts, then Troy Franklin gets my vote too. Both were well-liked by the fantasy community pre-draft, got worse than expected NFL draft capital, but didn’t fall in dynasty rookie drafts by as much.

If it needs to be players you can get in the 4th round of your rookie draft, then no one.
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