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Big Trade Completed

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:15 pm
by BucBuc
Team 1 in sig

Give LJax, London, Hock

Receive Dak, AJB, 2026 1st

Seemed good to me but wondering your fellas thoughts.. No tep

Re: Big Trade Completed

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:31 pm
by Viking386
I like this trade for you. Hock had a severe injury and even though he should be fine those are still scary with not knowing how they’ll be afterwards. You get the better WR in AJB who is in his prime. Dak is such an underrated dynasty QB. Good trade

Re: Big Trade Completed

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:40 pm
by BucBuc
Viking386 wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:31 pm I like this trade for you. Hock had a severe injury and even though he should be fine those are still scary with not knowing how they’ll be afterwards. You get the better WR in AJB who is in his prime. Dak is such an underrated dynasty QB. Good trade
Yeah this basically the process I had when sending this trade I appreciate your input

Re: Big Trade Completed

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:51 pm
by knotts4372
i prefer the side you gave up by a decent bit. with the pick being 3 yrs out imo it holds little value so you got older players back but the pick so far down the line its abit confusing of a trade. i dont think you lost big by any means just i would rather easily prefer the ljax/london/hock side

Re: Big Trade Completed

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:22 pm
by BucBuc
knotts4372 wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:51 pm i prefer the side you gave up by a decent bit. with the pick being 3 yrs out imo it holds little value so you got older players back but the pick so far down the line its abit confusing of a trade. i dont think you lost big by any means just i would rather easily prefer the ljax/london/hock side
Yeah I can see that perspective as well

Re: Big Trade Completed

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:25 pm
by Black Adam
:shock: I don't like this at all, and DTC has you a 26.9 pt loser from it. :nono:

Re: Big Trade Completed

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:46 am
by tstafford
Seems like a sell low on Hock and London to me. Basically every player with a severe injury (like Hock) has a value dip and then rebounds when they come back. (Think B.Hall last year. His ADP got as low as 18.3 but now is back up to 7). London is different - if you don't believe that it was situation and therefore that '24 will be more of the same, then selling him is fine. I don't happen to think that and believe we are about to see a WR1 season from London.

FWIW - I don't think this trade hurt you much for '24. I can see a world in which Dak/AJB outscores Lamar/London pretty easily. But the value is on the Lamar side of this deal.

Re: Big Trade Completed

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:26 am
by Tvols
Dak/AJB outscore LJ/London imo, Hock probably wont play if at all till latter in the year and the 2026 IDk just doesnt mean much, I think the trade is fine especially on an all in move.

Re: Big Trade Completed

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:47 am
by TheTroll
I’m thinking this was a negative trade but who knows

Re: Big Trade Completed

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:13 pm
by Mtt33
Ya I like the side you gave up, but it’s not horrible

Re: Big Trade Completed

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:25 pm
by Dynasty DeLorean
knotts4372 wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:51 pm i prefer the side you gave up by a decent bit. with the pick being 3 yrs out imo it holds little value so you got older players back but the pick so far down the line its abit confusing of a trade. i dont think you lost big by any means just i would rather easily prefer the ljax/london/hock side
As long as it’s a stable league that isn’t in danger of folding, it doesn’t matter if a 1st is 1 year out, 2 years out, 3 years out…. Doesn’t matter. I stocked up on draft picks many years out for a few years and once they came due I was able to use or trade them and went 13-1 last year. Devaluing picks just because they’re a few years out is basically nonsense, as long as it’s a stable league. If anything, a contender trading you a pick several years out only makes it more valuable because by that time their contending team may stink.

Re: Big Trade Completed

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:30 pm
by Black Adam
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:25 pm
knotts4372 wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:51 pm i prefer the side you gave up by a decent bit. with the pick being 3 yrs out imo it holds little value so you got older players back but the pick so far down the line its abit confusing of a trade. i dont think you lost big by any means just i would rather easily prefer the ljax/london/hock side
As long as it’s a stable league that isn’t in danger of folding, it doesn’t matter if a 1st is 1 year out, 2 years out, 3 years out…. Doesn’t matter. I stocked up on draft picks many years out for a few years and once they came due I was able to use or trade them and went 13-1 last year. Devaluing picks just because they’re a few years out is basically nonsense, as long as it’s a stable league. If anything, a contender trading you a pick several years out only makes it more valuable because by that time their contending team may stink.
I disagree and so does DTC. The farther out a pick is, the less inherent value it has.

You can look back and see what the 2024 was worth a full year or two ago compared to now, but if that's how you see things, that's fine too. :shock:

Re: Big Trade Completed

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:31 pm
by BucBuc
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:25 pm
knotts4372 wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:51 pm i prefer the side you gave up by a decent bit. with the pick being 3 yrs out imo it holds little value so you got older players back but the pick so far down the line its abit confusing of a trade. i dont think you lost big by any means just i would rather easily prefer the ljax/london/hock side
As long as it’s a stable league that isn’t in danger of folding, it doesn’t matter if a 1st is 1 year out, 2 years out, 3 years out…. Doesn’t matter. I stocked up on draft picks many years out for a few years and once they came due I was able to use or trade them and went 13-1 last year. Devaluing picks just because they’re a few years out is basically nonsense, as long as it’s a stable league. If anything, a contender trading you a pick several years out only makes it more valuable because by that time their contending team may stink.
Yeah it’s a family Friends league that has been going since 2016 so not worried about it folding and I’m always picking up the 1st years out..

Re: Big Trade Completed

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:33 pm
by BucBuc
Black Adam wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:30 pm
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:25 pm
knotts4372 wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:51 pm i prefer the side you gave up by a decent bit. with the pick being 3 yrs out imo it holds little value so you got older players back but the pick so far down the line its abit confusing of a trade. i dont think you lost big by any means just i would rather easily prefer the ljax/london/hock side
As long as it’s a stable league that isn’t in danger of folding, it doesn’t matter if a 1st is 1 year out, 2 years out, 3 years out…. Doesn’t matter. I stocked up on draft picks many years out for a few years and once they came due I was able to use or trade them and went 13-1 last year. Devaluing picks just because they’re a few years out is basically nonsense, as long as it’s a stable league. If anything, a contender trading you a pick several years out only makes it more valuable because by that time their contending team may stink.
I disagree and so does DTC. The farther out a pick is, the less inherent value it has.

You can look back and see what the 2024 was worth a full year or two ago compared to now, but if that's how you see things, that's fine too. :shock:
I welcome and listen to all advice but when someone’s argument is DTC or any calc that opinion is lessened for me.. Those things can be manipulated and they change rankings daily. Have your own values and opinions is the best way to go Black Adam.. Love your input tho

Re: Big Trade Completed

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:07 pm
by FiremanEd
I prefer the side you gave up, but see both sides.