Burrow for Josh Allen

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Burrow for Josh Allen

Postby RoyalPalmer » Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:59 am

Team 2 in signature. 12 team SF, .5 ppr, deep benches and starting line up.

Last week I brought up a topic of moving either Baker or Goff to another contender who is in dire needs of a QB. Well after discussions began a surprising name got thrown out there, Josh Allen.

This owner won two seasons ago, where last season I started making moves to be a contender. Their current QB situation is Josh Allen and Minshew, where I have Burrow, Goff, Baker, Darnold and AOC. We are still working on details but here is where we currently sit

I'd send
Burrow
Baker
Hockenson

I'd receive
Josh Allen
Kincaid

I'm trying to find a way to get the 1.11 added, and he wants London for that. I'm countering with Ayiuk. But I don't mind the deal as is, he doesn't seem to think it's enough.

Couple questions. Is Allen worth the upgrade on Burrow to help one of my main three competitors? Is the downgrade from Hock to Kincaid too much being a contender? And is missing out on the Burrow + Chase stack not worth it?

Thanks! This one is an interesting one.
12 team, .5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)
QB: Purdy, Zach Wilson, Hendon Hooker, Aidan O'Connell, Stetson Bennett, Mariota, Trubisky
RB: KeAndre Miller, Tank Bigsby, Jordan Mason, Kevin Harris
WR: Tank Dell, Rashod Bateman, Jameson Williams, Kadarius Toney, Darnell Mooney, Michael Wilson, DJ Chark, Slayton, Robert Woods, Khalil Shakir
TE LaPorta, Kincaid, J Ferguson

2024 1st (3x)
2024 2nd
2024 3rd
———

QB: Jake Allen, Goff, Darnold, AOC, Jimmy G
RB: Mixon, Kamara, Javonte Williams, Charbonnet, Prince, Jordon Mason, Ingram (AZ)
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, Keenan Allen, Drake London, Brandon Aiyuk, Elijah Moore, Marvin Jones, Paris Campbell, Donovon Peoples-Jones
TE: Kincaid, Noah Fant, Likely

2024 2nd
2024 3rd

12 team, .5PPR, TE Premium, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)

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Re: Burrow for Josh Allen

Postby SoftwoodGrampian » Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:06 am

I’d snap accept for Allen before he sobers up

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Re: Burrow for Josh Allen

Postby tstafford » Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:17 am

Comes down to how you value Baker. I tend to value that type of QB higher than the other managers in my leagues. Realistically he's probably worth about 2nd on the trade market which makes this deal look pretty cheap.

I don't like that this deal means you'd only have two starting QBs (maybe Darnold is three) and no draft picks to net another one. But it's your call and totally a fine deal to do.

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Re: Burrow for Josh Allen

Postby RoyalPalmer » Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:22 am

tstafford wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:17 am Comes down to how you value Baker. I tend to value that type of QB higher than the other managers in my leagues. Realistically he's probably worth about 2nd on the trade market which makes this deal look pretty cheap.

I don't like that this deal means you'd only have two starting QBs (maybe Darnold is three) and no draft picks to net another one. But it's your call and totally a fine deal to do.
This league is pretty balanced. Just about every team could make the playoffs and almost every team has three starting QBs (when you count the Darnolds and Minshews of the world).
12 team, .5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)
QB: Purdy, Zach Wilson, Hendon Hooker, Aidan O'Connell, Stetson Bennett, Mariota, Trubisky
RB: KeAndre Miller, Tank Bigsby, Jordan Mason, Kevin Harris
WR: Tank Dell, Rashod Bateman, Jameson Williams, Kadarius Toney, Darnell Mooney, Michael Wilson, DJ Chark, Slayton, Robert Woods, Khalil Shakir
TE LaPorta, Kincaid, J Ferguson

2024 1st (3x)
2024 2nd
2024 3rd
———

QB: Jake Allen, Goff, Darnold, AOC, Jimmy G
RB: Mixon, Kamara, Javonte Williams, Charbonnet, Prince, Jordon Mason, Ingram (AZ)
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, Keenan Allen, Drake London, Brandon Aiyuk, Elijah Moore, Marvin Jones, Paris Campbell, Donovon Peoples-Jones
TE: Kincaid, Noah Fant, Likely

2024 2nd
2024 3rd

12 team, .5PPR, TE Premium, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)

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Re: Burrow for Josh Allen

Postby Mtt33 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:25 am

You noted it’s deep lineups, I’m counting 12 team start 9. Wouldn’t consider that deep so I wouldn’t worry about giving extra pieces. Make this trade as is, do NOT add aiyuk for 1.11, why are you trying to add that?

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Re: Burrow for Josh Allen

Postby SoftwoodGrampian » Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:01 am

Allen is the outlier at QB, he’ll set you apart from the balanced herd. I don’t know the exact number but he’s been QB1 the last 3 years I believe and by a typically large margin - it think maybe as much as 100 points one season to the #2

Not 100 but you know

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Re: Burrow for Josh Allen

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:37 am

Mtt33 wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:25 am You noted it’s deep lineups, I’m counting 12 team start 9. Wouldn’t consider that deep so I wouldn’t worry about giving extra pieces. Make this trade as is, do NOT add aiyuk for 1.11, why are you trying to add that?
im on this train of thought as well
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Burrow for Josh Allen

Postby RoyalPalmer » Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:38 am

Mtt33 wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:25 am You noted it’s deep lineups, I’m counting 12 team start 9. Wouldn’t consider that deep so I wouldn’t worry about giving extra pieces. Make this trade as is, do NOT add aiyuk for 1.11, why are you trying to add that?
I guess we are more medium sized lineups lol.

Yeah if he'd agree to it as laid out I'd do it. But he wants another piece coming back and initially said London. So trying to find that balance. I may be able to get him to bite with the trade as is now since we can't seem to agree on an add.
12 team, .5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)
QB: Purdy, Zach Wilson, Hendon Hooker, Aidan O'Connell, Stetson Bennett, Mariota, Trubisky
RB: KeAndre Miller, Tank Bigsby, Jordan Mason, Kevin Harris
WR: Tank Dell, Rashod Bateman, Jameson Williams, Kadarius Toney, Darnell Mooney, Michael Wilson, DJ Chark, Slayton, Robert Woods, Khalil Shakir
TE LaPorta, Kincaid, J Ferguson

2024 1st (3x)
2024 2nd
2024 3rd
———

QB: Jake Allen, Goff, Darnold, AOC, Jimmy G
RB: Mixon, Kamara, Javonte Williams, Charbonnet, Prince, Jordon Mason, Ingram (AZ)
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, Keenan Allen, Drake London, Brandon Aiyuk, Elijah Moore, Marvin Jones, Paris Campbell, Donovon Peoples-Jones
TE: Kincaid, Noah Fant, Likely

2024 2nd
2024 3rd

12 team, .5PPR, TE Premium, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)

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Re: Burrow for Josh Allen

Postby Buckhill Bombers » Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:44 am

Seems like you're almost giving away Baker for free. Now before 2023 season I would have not given that a second thought. But he's got value, especially in a SF league. I'd ask a draft pick back with Allen and Kincaid personally.

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Re: Burrow for Josh Allen

Postby Menace2010 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:12 pm

If you can get the deal done as is, smash. Adding 1.11 for London or Aiyuk would make me rethink that though. Massive downgrade at WR in that scenario.

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Re: Burrow for Josh Allen

Postby TheTroll » Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:16 pm

Menace2010 wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:12 pm If you can get the deal done as is, smash. Adding 1.11 for London or Aiyuk would make me rethink that though. Massive downgrade at WR in that scenario.
Agree here
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Burrow for Josh Allen

Postby RoyalPalmer » Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:59 pm

Menace2010 wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:12 pm If you can get the deal done as is, smash. Adding 1.11 for London or Aiyuk would make me rethink that though. Massive downgrade at WR in that scenario.
This is where I stand too. I mean I don't mind one of my mine competitors only having one viable starting QB. So if I'm helping him out I feel like it needs to be baked into the cost a bit
12 team, .5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)
QB: Purdy, Zach Wilson, Hendon Hooker, Aidan O'Connell, Stetson Bennett, Mariota, Trubisky
RB: KeAndre Miller, Tank Bigsby, Jordan Mason, Kevin Harris
WR: Tank Dell, Rashod Bateman, Jameson Williams, Kadarius Toney, Darnell Mooney, Michael Wilson, DJ Chark, Slayton, Robert Woods, Khalil Shakir
TE LaPorta, Kincaid, J Ferguson

2024 1st (3x)
2024 2nd
2024 3rd
———

QB: Jake Allen, Goff, Darnold, AOC, Jimmy G
RB: Mixon, Kamara, Javonte Williams, Charbonnet, Prince, Jordon Mason, Ingram (AZ)
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, Keenan Allen, Drake London, Brandon Aiyuk, Elijah Moore, Marvin Jones, Paris Campbell, Donovon Peoples-Jones
TE: Kincaid, Noah Fant, Likely

2024 2nd
2024 3rd

12 team, .5PPR, TE Premium, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)

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Re: Burrow for Josh Allen

Postby RoyalPalmer » Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:28 pm

Ok so we are currently at

Burrow+Baker+Hockenson+Jeudy

For

Allen+Kincaid+late 2nd

I think I'm into it.
12 team, .5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)
QB: Purdy, Zach Wilson, Hendon Hooker, Aidan O'Connell, Stetson Bennett, Mariota, Trubisky
RB: KeAndre Miller, Tank Bigsby, Jordan Mason, Kevin Harris
WR: Tank Dell, Rashod Bateman, Jameson Williams, Kadarius Toney, Darnell Mooney, Michael Wilson, DJ Chark, Slayton, Robert Woods, Khalil Shakir
TE LaPorta, Kincaid, J Ferguson

2024 1st (3x)
2024 2nd
2024 3rd
———

QB: Jake Allen, Goff, Darnold, AOC, Jimmy G
RB: Mixon, Kamara, Javonte Williams, Charbonnet, Prince, Jordon Mason, Ingram (AZ)
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, Keenan Allen, Drake London, Brandon Aiyuk, Elijah Moore, Marvin Jones, Paris Campbell, Donovon Peoples-Jones
TE: Kincaid, Noah Fant, Likely

2024 2nd
2024 3rd

12 team, .5PPR, TE Premium, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)

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Re: Burrow for Josh Allen

Postby RoyalPalmer » Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:27 pm

The deal is done. First off want to thank everyone who contributes here. I always respect and appreciate everyone's feedback! This is an awesome little community.

I sent
Burrow + Baker + Hockenson + Jeudy

I received
Josh Allen + Kincaid + 2.11

I'm pretty stoked but also felt like this was a very fair trade for both owners. Updated my team in the sign.
12 team, .5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)
QB: Purdy, Zach Wilson, Hendon Hooker, Aidan O'Connell, Stetson Bennett, Mariota, Trubisky
RB: KeAndre Miller, Tank Bigsby, Jordan Mason, Kevin Harris
WR: Tank Dell, Rashod Bateman, Jameson Williams, Kadarius Toney, Darnell Mooney, Michael Wilson, DJ Chark, Slayton, Robert Woods, Khalil Shakir
TE LaPorta, Kincaid, J Ferguson

2024 1st (3x)
2024 2nd
2024 3rd
———

QB: Jake Allen, Goff, Darnold, AOC, Jimmy G
RB: Mixon, Kamara, Javonte Williams, Charbonnet, Prince, Jordon Mason, Ingram (AZ)
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, Keenan Allen, Drake London, Brandon Aiyuk, Elijah Moore, Marvin Jones, Paris Campbell, Donovon Peoples-Jones
TE: Kincaid, Noah Fant, Likely

2024 2nd
2024 3rd

12 team, .5PPR, TE Premium, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)

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Re: Burrow for Josh Allen

Postby Finfansteve » Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:26 am

I think the trade is even as it but I wouldn’t be adding London or aiyuk for a dart throw 1.11 that doesn’t make any sense at all for you
Qb: Hurts, geno Smith
Rb: JT, Gibbs, Montgomery, Roschon, Z. White, Ty Chandler
Wr: AJB, JJ, Chase, waddle, G Wilson
TE: Pitts, Kincaid, Likely, Njoku

2024 1.01, 1.04, 1.05
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Non PPR
Not super flex
Start 1/1/2/1/2 flex
1 point per first down
All tds 6 points


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