Is Devon Achane’s value low right now?

[WOATjohn]

Team 3 complete rebuild
I got lucky and drafted Achane year 1 of my complete rebuild and I’m trying to cash out but it seems like my league is incredibly low on him unless I am shooting too high.

Offers I have made that got rejected with no counter
Achane/Ahmed for Garrett Wilson
Achane/Ahmed for JSN and Mayer
Achane/Ahmed for Olave (he’s stacked at WR but old at RB)

Another I have offered but haven’t heard back
Achane/Ahmed for 1.06 Jameson Williams and Jahan Dotson

[Prison_Mike]

Overall I think he's undervalued. But I don't think he's undervalued in your league specifically, based on these rejections.

You're not getting Wilson or Olave for him in any league.

The other two deals are reasonable but honestly I think I'd prefer Achane in both, especially the 1.06 deal since it's a 1QB

[WOATjohn]

Overall I think he's undervalued. But I don't think he's undervalued in your league specifically, based on these rejections.

You're not getting Wilson or Olave for him in any league.

The other two deals are reasonable but honestly I think I'd prefer Achane in both, especially the 1.06 deal since it's a 1QB

Yeah I agree with both Wilson and Olave but figured I’d see if the current Wilson manager is low on him.
I’m extremely bias and in love with JSN but that manager is holding him hostage away from me.
The Jameson and Jahan deal I figured might as well add some dart throws as this team is in complete rebuild mode.

[Mtt33]

I’d pull the last deal, don’t like that in a 1 qb personally but I get you’re trying to get off the rb. I’d hold the rb risk though if you can’t get decent value. typically I’d say maybe add to achane for one of the young WRs, but this team needs so much help it’s tough to package good pieces.

I’d even shop the 1.01 since you need so many pieces, with the intention of only moving it if you’re blown away. Moving down to 1.3 and another good piece would be nice.

[WOATjohn]

I’d pull the last deal, don’t like that in a 1 qb personally but I get you’re trying to get off the rb. I’d hold the rb risk though if you can’t get decent value. typically I’d say maybe add to achane for one of the young WRs, but this team needs so much help it’s tough to package good pieces.

I’d even shop the 1.01 since you need so many pieces, with the intention of only moving it if you’re blown away. Moving down to 1.3 and another good piece would be nice.

Yeah I’ll consider trading the 1.01 after the nfl draft hype.

[abloom]

I'd reject all those offers from you as well. I don't see a reason to pay up for RBs when older vets do fine. Also achane's production came on limited touches due to injury. There is no reason to believe that he could continue on that pace with increased touches and avoid injury.

The offer that hasn't been rejected yet is okay, but I'd only consider it if I was a true contender. If not I'd rather the pick and wrs.

[CGW]

I wouldn't say he is undervalued. He's not worth Wilson or Olave and shouldn't be. It's a hard time to sell RBs. Stacked FA group impending and there will be a lot of shakeup. Plus everyone is focused on WRs, QBs, and rookies right now. No one is thinking about the 2024 playoffs yet.

[BigBawseRoss]

couple things. 1 its early offseason so most people dont wanna buy rb at this time. 2 its startup season and even top rbs get faded as everyone wants to build around qb,wr, and even te currently with laporta kincaid and mcbride becoming highly sought after.

flowers rice addison jsn are in the range of reasonable asks for him based on startup adp even with rb being faded.

this is likely mostly timing and vibes based and not that you are off on value or aiming too high (except g wilson or olave thats asking a bit high without you adding something decent imo)

[MacDaddy123]

I wouldn't say that Achane is under-valued as much as I would say the Ohio State WR's are over-valued.
Doesn't seem to matter how Wilson, Olave, and JSN perform, they will always be valued higher than they should be considering production.
If one of them ever hits 15 PPR PPG they may well move into the dynasty WR1 overall discussion. lol

[CGW]

I wouldn't say that Achane is under-valued as much as I would say the Ohio State WR's are over-valued.
Doesn't seem to matter how Wilson, Olave, and JSN perform, they will always be valued higher than they should be considering production.
If one of them ever hits 15 PPR PPG they may well move into the dynasty WR1 overall discussion. lol

Could I ask who you think that is regularly ranked below Olave/Wilson should be above?

KTC for reference:
JJ
Lamb
Chase
ARSB
MHJ
Nacua
Wilson
AJB
Nabers
Olave
Aiyuk
Hill
Waddle
London
Collins

[MacDaddy123]

I wouldn't say that Achane is under-valued as much as I would say the Ohio State WR's are over-valued.
Doesn't seem to matter how Wilson, Olave, and JSN perform, they will always be valued higher than they should be considering production.
If one of them ever hits 15 PPR PPG they may well move into the dynasty WR1 overall discussion. lol

Could I ask who you think that is regularly ranked below Olave/Wilson should be above?

KTC for reference:
JJ
Lamb
Chase
ARSB
MHJ
Nacua
Wilson
AJB
Nabers
Olave
Aiyuk
Hill
Waddle
London
Collins

I regularly see Wilson ahead of Puka and AJB, I don't think he should be over either. I also have Nabers over Wilson.
I could also make cases for Aiyuk, Tyreek, Waddle, Higgins, and maybe even Olave over Wilson if we are actually counting production.
I also have Waddle, Higgins and London above GW/Olave.

I mean Olave has averaged 13.85 PPR PPG through his first 2 seasons, and GW has averaged 12.6 PPR PPG through his first 2 seasons.
Dudes like Waddle, 15.3 PPR PPG though his first 2 seasons, Higgins, 14.3 though his first 2 seasons, are behind Olave and GW, seemingly only because they did not attend Ohio State.

[Mtt33]

I wouldn't say that Achane is under-valued as much as I would say the Ohio State WR's are over-valued.
Doesn't seem to matter how Wilson, Olave, and JSN perform, they will always be valued higher than they should be considering production.
If one of them ever hits 15 PPR PPG they may well move into the dynasty WR1 overall discussion. lol

Could I ask who you think that is regularly ranked below Olave/Wilson should be above?

KTC for reference:
JJ
Lamb
Chase
ARSB
MHJ
Nacua
Wilson
AJB
Nabers
Olave
Aiyuk
Hill
Waddle
London
Collins

I regularly see Wilson ahead of Puka and AJB, I don't think he should be over either. I also have Nabers over Wilson.
I could also make cases for Aiyuk, Tyreek, Waddle, Higgins, and maybe even Olave over Wilson if we are actually counting production.
I also have Waddle, Higgins and London above GW/Olave.

I mean Olave has averaged 13.85 PPR PPG through his first 2 seasons, and GW has averaged 12.6 PPR PPG through his first 2 seasons.
Dudes like Waddle, 15.3 PPR PPG though his first 2 seasons, Higgins, 14.3 though his first 2 seasons, are behind Olave and GW, seemingly only because they did not attend Ohio State.

So you don’t factor GW playing with around the 75th best qb in the league in at all in projecting future production? Just a non factor?

[CGW]

I wouldn't say that Achane is under-valued as much as I would say the Ohio State WR's are over-valued.
Doesn't seem to matter how Wilson, Olave, and JSN perform, they will always be valued higher than they should be considering production.
If one of them ever hits 15 PPR PPG they may well move into the dynasty WR1 overall discussion. lol

Could I ask who you think that is regularly ranked below Olave/Wilson should be above?

KTC for reference:
JJ
Lamb
Chase
ARSB
MHJ
Nacua
Wilson
AJB
Nabers
Olave
Aiyuk
Hill
Waddle
London
Collins

I regularly see Wilson ahead of Puka and AJB, I don't think he should be over either. I also have Nabers over Wilson.
I could also make cases for Aiyuk, Tyreek, Waddle, Higgins, and maybe even Olave over Wilson if we are actually counting production.
I also have Waddle, Higgins and London above GW/Olave.

I mean Olave has averaged 13.85 PPR PPG through his first 2 seasons, and GW has averaged 12.6 PPR PPG through his first 2 seasons.
Dudes like Waddle, 15.3 PPR PPG though his first 2 seasons, Higgins, 14.3 though his first 2 seasons, are behind Olave and GW, seemingly only because they did not attend Ohio State.

Appreciate the feedback. It's certainly an interesting theory

[MacDaddy123]

Could I ask who you think that is regularly ranked below Olave/Wilson should be above?

KTC for reference:
JJ
Lamb
Chase
ARSB
MHJ
Nacua
Wilson
AJB
Nabers
Olave
Aiyuk
Hill
Waddle
London
Collins

I regularly see Wilson ahead of Puka and AJB, I don't think he should be over either. I also have Nabers over Wilson.
I could also make cases for Aiyuk, Tyreek, Waddle, Higgins, and maybe even Olave over Wilson if we are actually counting production.
I also have Waddle, Higgins and London above GW/Olave.

I mean Olave has averaged 13.85 PPR PPG through his first 2 seasons, and GW has averaged 12.6 PPR PPG through his first 2 seasons.
Dudes like Waddle, 15.3 PPR PPG though his first 2 seasons, Higgins, 14.3 though his first 2 seasons, are behind Olave and GW, seemingly only because they did not attend Ohio State.

So you don’t factor GW playing with around the 75th best qb in the league in at all in projecting future production? Just a non factor?

I don't see GW's QB play as any worse than Drake London, George Pickens, Jakobi Meyers, Terry McLaurin QB play or others.
One guy gets a pass, the others do not get a pass.

Wilson had 168 targets in 2023, and only averaged 12.5 PPR PPG.
No other WR with 168 or more targets in a season has averaged fewer than 16.7 PPR PPG in the past 10 years.

I mean if we give GW a pass for poor QB play, then it is only fair to give other WR's with bad QB's a pass.

[tstafford]

I don't see GW's QB play as any worse than Drake London, George Pickens, Jakobi Meyers, Terry McLaurin QB play or others.
One guy gets a pass, the others do not get a pass.

Wilson had 168 targets in 2023, and only averaged 12.5 PPR PPG.
No other WR with 168 or more targets in a season has averaged fewer than 16.7 PPR PPG in the past 10 years.

I mean if we give GW a pass for poor QB play, then it is only fair to give other WR's with bad QB's a pass.

I think most people do give those others - particularly London and McLaurin - a pass for bad QB play. And I don't think it has anything to do with McLaurin having gone to OSU