Dell and 1.03 or Nacua and 1.06
Dell and 1.03 or Nacua and 1.06
Need some input, I think value is there, but I have zero need for Brock bowers. My team is semi competitive. Getting a young QB would be nice to supplant my Cousins/ Watson qb2. But also lacking a strong flex option. Which 1.03 could take care of with Nabers. What are your guys thoughts?
12 Team PPR 2 Flex
QB: Hurts | Watson | Cousins
RB: Hall | Achane | Ekeler| Chubb | Kamara
WR: Hill | AJ Brown | Chase | Aiyuk
TE: Njoku | Waller
: 2023
12 Team PPR SuperFlex IDP
QB: Hurts | Fields | Mayfield
RB: Bijan | Saquon | Ford
WR: Chase | Jefferson | AJ Brown | Metcalf | Puka | Collins
TE: Pitts | Freieemuth
DL: T. Watt
LB: White
DB: Adams | Kearse | Stingley
: 2023
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QB: Hurts | Watson | Cousins
RB: Hall | Achane | Ekeler| Chubb | Kamara
WR: Hill | AJ Brown | Chase | Aiyuk
TE: Njoku | Waller
: 2023
12 Team PPR SuperFlex IDP
QB: Hurts | Fields | Mayfield
RB: Bijan | Saquon | Ford
WR: Chase | Jefferson | AJ Brown | Metcalf | Puka | Collins
TE: Pitts | Freieemuth
DL: T. Watt
LB: White
DB: Adams | Kearse | Stingley
: 2023
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Re: Dell and 1.03 or Nacua and 1.06
Nacua/1.06 very easily for me. Difference between tank and puka is much larger than the difference between 1.03 and 1.06
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB- Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
1.02, 1.11
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB- Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
1.02, 1.11
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
Re: Dell and 1.03 or Nacua and 1.06
I feel like We are missing information to help you with this? How many positions start? 1qb or 2? Sorry, I could be wrong because I'm new to this. If you start2qbs than maybe upgrade there with 1.03 and Tank
Cheers
Mike
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1 Qb PPR League 12 teams
Starters (8) Bench (12)Taxi (6)
My Team:
QB: J Herbert, A Richardson,
RB: B Hall, J Gibbs,J Jacobs, K Gainwell Tyler Allgeier, Michael Carter, Israel Abanikanda
WR: AJ Brown,Olave, JSN, Zay Flowers, Calvin Ridley, Q Johnston, Charlie Jones, C Tillman, Tyler Scott, Justyn Ross, WanDale R, Calvin Austin III, Andrei Iosivas,
TE: Kincaid, Mayer, Njoku, Bellinger,
Draft picks
2024 1.01
2025 2nd
2026 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
Mike
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1 Qb PPR League 12 teams
Starters (8) Bench (12)Taxi (6)
My Team:
QB: J Herbert, A Richardson,
RB: B Hall, J Gibbs,J Jacobs, K Gainwell Tyler Allgeier, Michael Carter, Israel Abanikanda
WR: AJ Brown,Olave, JSN, Zay Flowers, Calvin Ridley, Q Johnston, Charlie Jones, C Tillman, Tyler Scott, Justyn Ross, WanDale R, Calvin Austin III, Andrei Iosivas,
TE: Kincaid, Mayer, Njoku, Bellinger,
Draft picks
2024 1.01
2025 2nd
2026 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
Re: Dell and 1.03 or Nacua and 1.06
Sure
2 QB: Lamar, Cousin, D. Watson
2 RB: Walker, Kamara
3 WR: Chase, Jefferson, Dell
1 TE: Andrews
2 Flex: Open
12 Team PPR 2 Flex
QB: Hurts | Watson | Cousins
RB: Hall | Achane | Ekeler| Chubb | Kamara
WR: Hill | AJ Brown | Chase | Aiyuk
TE: Njoku | Waller
: 2023
12 Team PPR SuperFlex IDP
QB: Hurts | Fields | Mayfield
RB: Bijan | Saquon | Ford
WR: Chase | Jefferson | AJ Brown | Metcalf | Puka | Collins
TE: Pitts | Freieemuth
DL: T. Watt
LB: White
DB: Adams | Kearse | Stingley
: 2023
.
QB: Hurts | Watson | Cousins
RB: Hall | Achane | Ekeler| Chubb | Kamara
WR: Hill | AJ Brown | Chase | Aiyuk
TE: Njoku | Waller
: 2023
12 Team PPR SuperFlex IDP
QB: Hurts | Fields | Mayfield
RB: Bijan | Saquon | Ford
WR: Chase | Jefferson | AJ Brown | Metcalf | Puka | Collins
TE: Pitts | Freieemuth
DL: T. Watt
LB: White
DB: Adams | Kearse | Stingley
: 2023
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Re: Dell and 1.03 or Nacua and 1.06
Yeah I would go with 1.06 and Nacua.
Cheers
Mike
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1 Qb PPR League 12 teams
Starters (8) Bench (12)Taxi (6)
My Team:
QB: J Herbert, A Richardson,
RB: B Hall, J Gibbs,J Jacobs, K Gainwell Tyler Allgeier, Michael Carter, Israel Abanikanda
WR: AJ Brown,Olave, JSN, Zay Flowers, Calvin Ridley, Q Johnston, Charlie Jones, C Tillman, Tyler Scott, Justyn Ross, WanDale R, Calvin Austin III, Andrei Iosivas,
TE: Kincaid, Mayer, Njoku, Bellinger,
Draft picks
2024 1.01
2025 2nd
2026 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
Mike
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1 Qb PPR League 12 teams
Starters (8) Bench (12)Taxi (6)
My Team:
QB: J Herbert, A Richardson,
RB: B Hall, J Gibbs,J Jacobs, K Gainwell Tyler Allgeier, Michael Carter, Israel Abanikanda
WR: AJ Brown,Olave, JSN, Zay Flowers, Calvin Ridley, Q Johnston, Charlie Jones, C Tillman, Tyler Scott, Justyn Ross, WanDale R, Calvin Austin III, Andrei Iosivas,
TE: Kincaid, Mayer, Njoku, Bellinger,
Draft picks
2024 1.01
2025 2nd
2026 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
Re: Dell and 1.03 or Nacua and 1.06
Puka side fairly easily for me.
Re: Dell and 1.03 or Nacua and 1.06
Value is solidly on the Puka/1.06 side. And there isn't a bad asset in this bunch. IMO there's a tad more risk on the Puka side mostly because 1.06 is a cut line. But I'm rolling the dice and taking Puka/1.06.
Re: Dell and 1.03 or Nacua and 1.06
I'd take Puka over Dell, but that's only a part of the deal.
With 1.03 you are almost assured of getting your choice at the second QB chosen. At 1.06, you are probably looking at the fourth rookie QB or abandoning choosing a QB in the 1st round. You didn't list your '24 draft picks, but I assume you have only one first round pick.
I think I'd rather have a rookie QB I believed in WAY MUCH MORE than the third rookie WR or Bowers. Correction, I know I would rather have the QB. Comparing this to last year's draft, we're talking about the difference between JSN/Flowers/Addison (the guys in the running for third WR chosen) and ARichardson/Stroud (the guys in the running for 2nd QB chosen.) No matter how hard I twist my brain, I can't make the difference between Dell and Puka equal the canyon of difference between one of AR/Stroud and one of those '23 WRs.
In a vacuum I have to lean toward the 1.03+Dell side.
For a team needing/wanting a rookie QB, I am heavily on the 1.03 side. And that's not even close for me.
With 1.03 you are almost assured of getting your choice at the second QB chosen. At 1.06, you are probably looking at the fourth rookie QB or abandoning choosing a QB in the 1st round. You didn't list your '24 draft picks, but I assume you have only one first round pick.
I think I'd rather have a rookie QB I believed in WAY MUCH MORE than the third rookie WR or Bowers. Correction, I know I would rather have the QB. Comparing this to last year's draft, we're talking about the difference between JSN/Flowers/Addison (the guys in the running for third WR chosen) and ARichardson/Stroud (the guys in the running for 2nd QB chosen.) No matter how hard I twist my brain, I can't make the difference between Dell and Puka equal the canyon of difference between one of AR/Stroud and one of those '23 WRs.
In a vacuum I have to lean toward the 1.03+Dell side.
For a team needing/wanting a rookie QB, I am heavily on the 1.03 side. And that's not even close for me.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
Re: Dell and 1.03 or Nacua and 1.06
I went back and forth - your point is very valid.Anteaters wrote: βThu Feb 22, 2024 4:39 am I'd take Puka over Dell, but that's only a part of the deal.
With 1.03 you are almost assured of getting your choice at the second QB chosen. At 1.06, you are probably looking at the fourth rookie QB or abandoning choosing a QB in the 1st round. You didn't list your '24 draft picks, but I assume you have only one first round pick.
I think I'd rather have a rookie QB I believed in WAY MUCH MORE than the third rookie WR or Bowers. Correction, I know I would rather have the QB. Comparing this to last year's draft, we're talking about the difference between JSN/Flowers/Addison (the guys in the running for third WR chosen) and ARichardson/Stroud (the guys in the running for 2nd QB chosen.) No matter how hard I twist my brain, I can't make the difference between Dell and Puka equal the canyon of difference between one of AR/Stroud and one of those '23 WRs.
In a vacuum I have to lean toward the 1.03+Dell side.
For a team needing/wanting a rookie QB, I am heavily on the 1.03 side. And that's not even close for me.
1.06 has risk because it requires sort of everything to go as planned to remain "elite". I prefer Puka enough to take that risk, but I can see going the other way for sure.
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Re: Dell and 1.03 or Nacua and 1.06
I agree with this. Also I like that Dell is linked with Stroud for the next several years while Stafford is much greater risk of hanging it up. So a year or 2 from now Dell and Puka could be much closer in value.Anteaters wrote: βThu Feb 22, 2024 4:39 am I'd take Puka over Dell, but that's only a part of the deal.
With 1.03 you are almost assured of getting your choice at the second QB chosen. At 1.06, you are probably looking at the fourth rookie QB or abandoning choosing a QB in the 1st round. You didn't list your '24 draft picks, but I assume you have only one first round pick.
I think I'd rather have a rookie QB I believed in WAY MUCH MORE than the third rookie WR or Bowers. Correction, I know I would rather have the QB. Comparing this to last year's draft, we're talking about the difference between JSN/Flowers/Addison (the guys in the running for third WR chosen) and ARichardson/Stroud (the guys in the running for 2nd QB chosen.) No matter how hard I twist my brain, I can't make the difference between Dell and Puka equal the canyon of difference between one of AR/Stroud and one of those '23 WRs.
In a vacuum I have to lean toward the 1.03+Dell side.
For a team needing/wanting a rookie QB, I am heavily on the 1.03 side. And that's not even close for me.
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Re: Dell and 1.03 or Nacua and 1.06
im a huge puka guy and i got no gap at all from him to dell. id take 1.03 side here. both guys are gonna be solid target earners with low td upside (actually dang dell had 7 i didnt realize he had that many haha).
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
Re: Dell and 1.03 or Nacua and 1.06
For those who have Puka and Dell fairly close in value, where do you have each of them ranked at WR?
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Re: Dell and 1.03 or Nacua and 1.06
in that high end wr2 range, 12-15ish. i dont care at all about ranks personally i just dont really see a weekly upside difference from puka to dell and dont think one or the other has some horrible floor. dells long term stability of situation bumps him up a bit too for me in this discussion puka vs dell
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
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Re: Dell and 1.03 or Nacua and 1.06
Personally I really don't understand how these two are really close at all. Puka just set rookie WR records while Dell played half the year and while he was good he wasn't putting up anywhere near what Puka was doing. Dell is also almost two years older than Puka. I, for once, agree with KTC on this one, Puka at WR6 and Dell at WR20.
12 Team .5 PPR Dynasty Start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1FLEX, 1TE, 1 DEF, 1K
2018: 2nd
2019: Champs
2020: 2nd
2021: 2nd
2022: 2nd
2023: Champs
QB: L. Jackson, D.Prescott, K. Cousins
RB: S. Barkley, A. Kamara, A. Jones, T. Benson, K. Miller, J. Ford, D. Singletary, J. Williams
WR: J. Jefferson, A.St. Brown, DK Metcalf, M. Brown, N. Collins, C. Kirk, J. Smith-Schuster, KJ Osborn, M. Washington
TE: D. Njoku, D. Goedert, B. Sinnott
Draft picks:
2025 - 1st (Mid), 2nd, (early), 2nd (Late), 3rd, 4th, 4th
2026 - 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 4th
2027 - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
2018: 2nd
2019: Champs
2020: 2nd
2021: 2nd
2022: 2nd
2023: Champs
QB: L. Jackson, D.Prescott, K. Cousins
RB: S. Barkley, A. Kamara, A. Jones, T. Benson, K. Miller, J. Ford, D. Singletary, J. Williams
WR: J. Jefferson, A.St. Brown, DK Metcalf, M. Brown, N. Collins, C. Kirk, J. Smith-Schuster, KJ Osborn, M. Washington
TE: D. Njoku, D. Goedert, B. Sinnott
Draft picks:
2025 - 1st (Mid), 2nd, (early), 2nd (Late), 3rd, 4th, 4th
2026 - 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 4th
2027 - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
Re: Dell and 1.03 or Nacua and 1.06
Kind of why I was asking. I'm always looking for where there are discrepancies b/w the market and my ranks. I think what we're seeing in this thread is that folks are lower than that on Puka and higher than that on Dell.PigeonBoys wrote: βThu Feb 22, 2024 9:05 amPersonally I really don't understand how these two are really close at all. Puka just set rookie WR records while Dell played half the year and while he was good he wasn't putting up anywhere near what Puka was doing. Dell is also almost two years older than Puka. I, for once, agree with KTC on this one, Puka at WR6 and Dell at WR20.
I keep seeing threads where Puka is being valued lower than I have him. I guess I need to go buy some Puka shares.
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