Where to take rookie 1.1 in startup

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Where to take rookie 1.1 in startup

Postby lawilt » Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:09 pm

For 12 and 16 team leagues, when would you be willing to pull the trigger and take the rookie 1.1 over a vet in start up?

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Re: Where to take rookie 1.1 in startup

Postby mzkp54 » Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:14 pm

I've been seeing 1.01 go somewhere between picks 10-15 in startups this offseason
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Re: Where to take rookie 1.1 in startup

Postby Dynastymc » Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:17 pm

I think you see rookie 1.01 off the board around the 12th overall pick. Good Luck
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Re: Where to take rookie 1.1 in startup

Postby MacDaddy123 » Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:42 pm

mzkp54 wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:14 pm I've been seeing 1.01 go somewhere between picks 10-15 in startups this offseason
^^^This sounds about right.

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Re: Where to take rookie 1.1 in startup

Postby tstafford » Tue Feb 20, 2024 4:31 am

MacDaddy123 wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:42 pm
mzkp54 wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:14 pm I've been seeing 1.01 go somewhere between picks 10-15 in startups this offseason
^^^This sounds about right.
Never ceases to amaze me, but I bet this is exactly right.

FWIW - I think we should get some ADP data soon from Ryan M that includes the rookies. Always fun to unpack that.

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Re: Where to take rookie 1.1 in startup

Postby Mtt33 » Tue Feb 20, 2024 5:06 am

tstafford wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 4:31 am
MacDaddy123 wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:42 pm
mzkp54 wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:14 pm I've been seeing 1.01 go somewhere between picks 10-15 in startups this offseason
^^^This sounds about right.
Never ceases to amaze me, but I bet this is exactly right.

FWIW - I think we should get some ADP data soon from Ryan M that includes the rookies. Always fun to unpack that.
It’s made from smal sample size of random people mock drafting so it’s not great adp data but it’s fun to unpack nonetheless!

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Re: Where to take rookie 1.1 in startup

Postby CGW » Tue Feb 20, 2024 5:37 am

In SF, it'll be around pick 12-14, depending if the owners there prefer the RBs or CW/MHJ.
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Re: Where to take rookie 1.1 in startup

Postby MacDaddy123 » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:57 pm

CGW wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 5:37 am In SF, it'll be around pick 12-14, depending if the owners there prefer the RBs or CW/MHJ.
Mahomes
Allen
Stroud
JJ
Chase
Lamb
Jackson
Hurts
Burrow
Herbert
ARSB
Bijan
Hall
I have seen over a dozen startup drafts done on various podcasts, and have yet to see any RB go ahead of the 1.01 in any of them.

Now I could see that happening in leagues where scoring favors RB's, 0.5 PPR or 0 PPR leagues, PPC leagues, or something like that.
However, with no PPC, no PFFD, Full PPR, RB's just are not going that high, from what I have seen.

Also, no way I would put a RB up that high on my board either.

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Re: Where to take rookie 1.1 in startup

Postby Mtt33 » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:29 am

MacDaddy123 wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:57 pm
CGW wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 5:37 am In SF, it'll be around pick 12-14, depending if the owners there prefer the RBs or CW/MHJ.
Mahomes
Allen
Stroud
JJ
Chase
Lamb
Jackson
Hurts
Burrow
Herbert
ARSB
Bijan
Hall
I have seen over a dozen startup drafts done on various podcasts, and have yet to see any RB go ahead of the 1.01 in any of them.

Now I could see that happening in leagues where scoring favors RB's, 0.5 PPR or 0 PPR leagues, PPC leagues, or something like that.
However, with no PPC, no PFFD, Full PPR, RB's just are not going that high, from what I have seen.

Also, no way I would put a RB up that high on my board either.
To be fair the podcasters/Twitter self proclaimed experts always lean more toward wr and qb than the real drafts. That said I absolutely agree 1.01 will be ahead of the rbs in all ADP this off-season. There will be drafts that’s nkt the case but if we are talking average position 1.01 will be up in that late first range I think.

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Re: Where to take rookie 1.1 in startup

Postby MacDaddy123 » Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:34 pm

Mtt33 wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:29 am
MacDaddy123 wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:57 pm
CGW wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 5:37 am In SF, it'll be around pick 12-14, depending if the owners there prefer the RBs or CW/MHJ.
Mahomes
Allen
Stroud
JJ
Chase
Lamb
Jackson
Hurts
Burrow
Herbert
ARSB
Bijan
Hall
I have seen over a dozen startup drafts done on various podcasts, and have yet to see any RB go ahead of the 1.01 in any of them.

Now I could see that happening in leagues where scoring favors RB's, 0.5 PPR or 0 PPR leagues, PPC leagues, or something like that.
However, with no PPC, no PFFD, Full PPR, RB's just are not going that high, from what I have seen.

Also, no way I would put a RB up that high on my board either.
To be fair the podcasters/Twitter self proclaimed experts always lean more toward wr and qb than the real drafts. That said I absolutely agree 1.01 will be ahead of the rbs in all ADP this off-season. There will be drafts that’s nkt the case but if we are talking average position 1.01 will be up in that late first range I think.
Agreed. There will always be outliers of any generalization.

I just watched 2 startups tonight, 1.01 went at 1.12 and 2.01 in 12 team SF startup draft.
Top RB went at 2.10 and 2.09 respectfully.

Fantasy Stock Exchange and DynastyLand were the 2 different sites of these startups.

I think QB/WR go first due to longevity.
As QB/WR careers last longer than RB careers on average.

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Re: Where to take rookie 1.1 in startup

Postby tstafford » Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:31 am

MacDaddy123 wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:34 pm
I just watched 2 startups tonight, 1.01 went at 1.12 and 2.01 in 12 team SF startup draft.
Top RB went at 2.10 and 2.09 respectfully.

Fantasy Stock Exchange and DynastyLand were the 2 different sites of these startups.
Do you recall when the 1.02 went in those drafts?

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Re: Where to take rookie 1.1 in startup

Postby CGW » Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:26 am

tstafford wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:31 am
MacDaddy123 wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:34 pm
I just watched 2 startups tonight, 1.01 went at 1.12 and 2.01 in 12 team SF startup draft.
Top RB went at 2.10 and 2.09 respectfully.

Fantasy Stock Exchange and DynastyLand were the 2 different sites of these startups.
Do you recall when the 1.02 went in those drafts?
I'm just guessing here, but probably within the next pick or two. 1.01 and 1.02 are valued almost the same in this class, as evidenced by how many people are willing to take MHJ over CW and vice versa.

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Re: Where to take rookie 1.1 in startup

Postby grooner » Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:36 pm

In my startup that started about a week ago (12tm superflex, TE premium) the 1.01 went pick 14.

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Re: Where to take rookie 1.1 in startup

Postby MacDaddy123 » Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:53 pm

tstafford wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:31 am
MacDaddy123 wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:34 pm
I just watched 2 startups tonight, 1.01 went at 1.12 and 2.01 in 12 team SF startup draft.
Top RB went at 2.10 and 2.09 respectfully.

Fantasy Stock Exchange and DynastyLand were the 2 different sites of these startups.
Do you recall when the 1.02 went in those drafts?
1.02 (MHJ) went at 2.03 in both drafts.

Just watched another mock SF startup done by Ron Stewart.
1.01 went at 1.09, and 1.02 was again 2.03.

Top RB did go at 2.04, which was earlier than normal.
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Re: Where to take rookie 1.1 in startup

Postby MacDaddy123 » Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:55 pm

CGW wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:26 am
tstafford wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:31 am
MacDaddy123 wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:34 pm
I just watched 2 startups tonight, 1.01 went at 1.12 and 2.01 in 12 team SF startup draft.
Top RB went at 2.10 and 2.09 respectfully.

Fantasy Stock Exchange and DynastyLand were the 2 different sites of these startups.
Do you recall when the 1.02 went in those drafts?
I'm just guessing here, but probably within the next pick or two. 1.01 and 1.02 are valued almost the same in this class, as evidenced by how many people are willing to take MHJ over CW and vice versa.
You are correct. 1.02 went at 2.03 in both drafts.
2 picks later in one draft and 3 picks later in the other.


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