Unattractive RB buys

[CGW]

I like Kamara, for now, and a few more years at least. People had him written off, was RB9 in my 1 PPR league. He's 28, still got it.

Agree on the Henry love, I'm still trotting him out (same team with Kamara on it).

Some under the tradar guys that could emerge—Conner, Ford, Warren, Jacobs, ZWhite, Chandler, Singletary, Allgeier, Brian Robinson.

Going to push back just a tiny bit on Kamara. I wouldn't say he's "still got it". He's still very productive in that system, but he hasn't run for a 30 yard play in three years. His longest play of the 2023 season was a 25 yard catch and run. His yards per carry are down. His yards per catch are down. It's very possible he is beginning to slow down a bit. But I do agree he will be fantasy relevant as long as he's on the field in New Orleans because of the sheer volume of targets he gets.

[wickerkat1212]

I like Kamara, for now, and a few more years at least. People had him written off, was RB9 in my 1 PPR league. He's 28, still got it.

Agree on the Henry love, I'm still trotting him out (same team with Kamara on it).

Some under the tradar guys that could emerge—Conner, Ford, Warren, Jacobs, ZWhite, Chandler, Singletary, Allgeier, Brian Robinson.

Going to push back just a tiny bit on Kamara. I wouldn't say he's "still got it". He's still very productive in that system, but he hasn't run for a 30 yard play in three years. His longest play of the 2023 season was a 25 yard catch and run. His yards per carry are down. His yards per catch are down. It's very possible he is beginning to slow down a bit. But I do agree he will be fantasy relevant as long as he's on the field in New Orleans because of the sheer volume of targets he gets.

Sure. And that's what I meant—targets, ppr, volume. So I think he's still a good RB1, not a GREAT RB1, and he'll certainly start to fade. Probably a few more years in him.

[dhanks91]

How are people valuing Tyjae Spears and D’andre Swift this offseason? What would be a good price point to acquire either guy?

[BabyChark23]

How are people valuing Tyjae Spears and D’andre Swift this offseason? What would be a good price point to acquire either guy?

I’d gladly pay an early 2nd for either which probably won’t get it done for Tyjae.

[tstafford]

How are people valuing Tyjae Spears and D’andre Swift this offseason? What would be a good price point to acquire either guy?

I’d gladly pay an early 2nd for either which probably won’t get it done for Tyjae.

As a Spears manager, I wouldn't take an early 2nd for him. But I can see why that's what would be offered.

Guessing he's one of those players where the bid/ask spread is too wide for a lot of deals to get done.

[Prison_Mike]

How are people valuing Tyjae Spears and D’andre Swift this offseason? What would be a good price point to acquire either guy?

I'm cautiously optimistic about Swift. He showed durability this year, which was a big concern with him for a lot of managers. He also showed that he can be a productive runner in the right system. His best asset is probably his receiving ability and he didn't get much chance to showcase that this year.

Based on that skill set and his price tag (market seems to have him around a mid 2nd), I'm willing to buy

[TheTroll]

How are people valuing Tyjae Spears and D’andre Swift this offseason? What would be a good price point to acquire either guy?

I’d gladly pay an early 2nd for either which probably won’t get it done for Tyjae.

As a Spears manager, I wouldn't take an early 2nd for him. But I can see why that's what would be offered.

Guessing he's one of those players where the bid/ask spread is too wide for a lot of deals to get done.

Agree here with Stafford

[SoftwoodGrampian]

Gotta be James Conner. Same thing each year

[kmbryant09]

I think Derrick Henry is a massive buy for any 2nd round pick. The Titans' OL was pretty bad last year but Henry's advanced metrics were still really, really good. It seems like he's heading towards a contender and I can think of a number of juicy destinations that could result in top10 production for another season or two: Baltimore, Philadelphia, Dallas, Cincinnati, Houston, LA Chargers, etc.

I'd rather invest in Henry for another 1-2 seasons than pay-up for younger, unproven guy like K. Miller or Z. Charbonnet. And I'd rather Henry's production & floor over some backs that I don't think have as firm of a grip on their starting role as the market would suggest like I. Pacheco, R. Stevenson, D. Swift, R. White (assuming Henry is cheaper than those guys).

Don't think many Henry owners are selling for a random 2nd at this point - pretty much a match made in heaven with the Baltimore Ravens. Given how unstable the RB position is year-to-year, there probably aren't 15+ RB's with more job security over the next 2 years as Henry has with the Ravens. And if Gus Edwards can produce 1,000 yards and 13 TDs on just 210 total touches, I firmly believe 1,200 total yards and 12+ TDs is the baseline expectations for Henry.

[Valhalla]

I think Derrick Henry is a massive buy for any 2nd round pick. The Titans' OL was pretty bad last year but Henry's advanced metrics were still really, really good. It seems like he's heading towards a contender and I can think of a number of juicy destinations that could result in top10 production for another season or two: Baltimore, Philadelphia, Dallas, Cincinnati, Houston, LA Chargers, etc.

I'd rather invest in Henry for another 1-2 seasons than pay-up for younger, unproven guy like K. Miller or Z. Charbonnet. And I'd rather Henry's production & floor over some backs that I don't think have as firm of a grip on their starting role as the market would suggest like I. Pacheco, R. Stevenson, D. Swift, R. White (assuming Henry is cheaper than those guys).

Don't think many Henry owners are selling for a random 2nd at this point - pretty much a match made in heaven with the Baltimore Ravens. Given how unstable the RB position is year-to-year, there probably aren't 15+ RB's with more job security over the next 2 years as Henry has with the Ravens. And if Gus Edwards can produce 1,000 yards and 13 TDs on just 210 total touches, I firmly believe 1,200 total yards and 12+ TDs is the baseline expectations for Henry.

Would have been a great buy in the middle of last season...

[BabyChark23]

What’s Mixon worth now with the Texans?

[Anteaters]

What’s Mixon worth now with the Texans?

Less than Mixon owners want, and more than I'm willing to pay.

But that's a purely personal pov. I think others who want Mixon should feel free to spend at least a 2nd to acquire him. I recognize his talent (and his new good position in Houston) but I've been irrationally afraid of Mixon since his second season.

[SoftwoodGrampian]

What’s Mixon worth now with the Texans?

Roughly the same. A hold. Seller wants more than buyer willing to pay. Meanwhile will finish as strong RB2.

[JoeJoe88]

Kyren Williams has to be considering a decent winner at this point. I know some people still aren’t sold but he’s dodged essentially all of the guys now in free agency you’d be worried landing with the Rams at this point. They’ve also beefed up that OL.

[mild]

Kyren Williams has to be considering a decent winner at this point. I know some people still aren’t sold but he’s dodged essentially all of the guys now in free agency you’d be worried landing with the Rams at this point. They’ve also beefed up that OL.

Whose not sold on 2023's RB4?

He's a beast, and perfect for that system. He'd belong in the "attractive RB buys" thread imo