ouchMacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 4:21 pm This trade just went through in my 14 team SF TEP league, I had to laugh my butt off:
Calvin Ridley
DK Metcalf
Gardner Minshew
Trey McBride
25 late 2nd
for
Kyler Murray
Garrett Wilson
2024 1.12
2024 Bad Trade Offers
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TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers
Am I stupid or am I missing something here? This looks pretty close to me.Anteaters wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:00 amouchMacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 4:21 pm This trade just went through in my 14 team SF TEP league, I had to laugh my butt off:
Calvin Ridley
DK Metcalf
Gardner Minshew
Trey McBride
25 late 2nd
for
Kyler Murray
Garrett Wilson
2024 1.12
Wilson = DK + 2nd
Murray = McBride
1.12 >= Ridley
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I didn't think it.looked terribleJigga94 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:03 pmAm I stupid or am I missing something here? This looks pretty close to me.Anteaters wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:00 amouchMacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 4:21 pm This trade just went through in my 14 team SF TEP league, I had to laugh my butt off:
Calvin Ridley
DK Metcalf
Gardner Minshew
Trey McBride
25 late 2nd
for
Kyler Murray
Garrett Wilson
2024 1.12
Wilson = DK + 2nd
Murray = McBride
1.12 >= Ridley
12 Team, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1Flex, D, K, 10 Bench
1PPR, 0.5 point per carry.
Burrow, Richardson
AJ Brown, DJMoore, G Wilson, T Higgens, Sutton, Tillman, Melton
King Henry, Bijan, Pacheco, Mixon, Ford, JK
Hockenson, Musgrave
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Picks in 2024 - #15, #22, #23, #27
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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers
In what universe does Murray = McBride in a 14 team Superflex league? Sorry, just trying to see if I should be aggressively shopping all my McBride shares.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:03 pmAm I stupid or am I missing something here? This looks pretty close to me.Anteaters wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:00 amouchMacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 4:21 pm This trade just went through in my 14 team SF TEP league, I had to laugh my butt off:
Calvin Ridley
DK Metcalf
Gardner Minshew
Trey McBride
25 late 2nd
for
Kyler Murray
Garrett Wilson
2024 1.12
Wilson = DK + 2nd
Murray = McBride
1.12 >= Ridley
Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers
Murray has a little more value right now, but I could easily see McBride being the better option in TEP moving forward. At least, it's close enough that I don't get why it's in here. I'm in a startup right now that McBride was the 2nd TE taken behind LaportaMenace2010 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:09 pmIn what universe does Murray = McBride in a 14 team Superflex league? Sorry, just trying to see if I should be aggressively shopping all my McBride shares.
Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers
As Menace2010 said, in SF Murray is far and away the best piece in this trade. I rate the trade this wayJigga94 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:03 pmAm I stupid or am I missing something here? This looks pretty close to me.Anteaters wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:00 amouchMacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 4:21 pm This trade just went through in my 14 team SF TEP league, I had to laugh my butt off:
Calvin Ridley
DK Metcalf
Gardner Minshew
Trey McBride
25 late 2nd
for
Kyler Murray
Garrett Wilson
2024 1.12
Wilson = DK + 2nd
Murray = McBride
1.12 >= Ridley
GWilson = DKM + Ridley
'24 1.12 >>> Minshew + '25 late 2nd
Murray >> or >>> McBride
Don't get me wrong. I am a huge fan of McBride and he's either my TE2 or TE1 going forward. But in a SF league, a young QB with the proven ability to repeatedly finish as a fantasy T7QB (who is about to start throwing to a "generational" WR talent and who is already throwing to a great TE) is a much more valuable asset than any TE could possibly be.
I assume the guy receiving Minshew is assuming Minshew will be a multi-year starter in LV. That's the only way this trade looks bad and not superbad.
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TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers
I agree. That’s a trade that could swing either way depending upon team makeup. Looks like a solid trade to me without more information.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:03 pmAm I stupid or am I missing something here? This looks pretty close to me.Anteaters wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:00 amouchMacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 4:21 pm This trade just went through in my 14 team SF TEP league, I had to laugh my butt off:
Calvin Ridley
DK Metcalf
Gardner Minshew
Trey McBride
25 late 2nd
for
Kyler Murray
Garrett Wilson
2024 1.12
Wilson = DK + 2nd
Murray = McBride
1.12 >= Ridley
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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers
^^^That is pretty much the way I read it.Anteaters wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:17 amAs Menace2010 said, in SF Murray is far and away the best piece in this trade. I rate the trade this way
GWilson = DKM + Ridley
'24 1.12 >>> Minshew + '25 late 2nd
Murray >> or >>> McBride
Don't get me wrong. I am a huge fan of McBride and he's either my TE2 or TE1 going forward. But in a SF league, a young QB with the proven ability to repeatedly finish as a fantasy T7QB (who is about to start throwing to a "generational" WR talent and who is already throwing to a great TE) is a much more valuable asset than any TE could possibly be.
I assume the guy receiving Minshew is assuming Minshew will be a multi-year starter in LV. That's the only way this trade looks bad and not superbad.
I realize that many are over-valuing McBride now, and still under-value Kyler, but for me, Kyler >>> McBride.
Most other league managers see it the same way.
I haven't talked to anyone favoring the McBride side.
Dude that got the Kyler side is the defending league champ, and ran away giddy from this trade.
I can't say that I blame him.
I lost to him in the Finals last year, and now do not know if I can compete with him this year.
I mean sure, it's not Kyler for Gardner Minshew level bad trade, which I guess is what this thread is reserved for.
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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers
Depends what the premium is. 2ppr then I would argue McBride > Kyler. People still haven’t figured out the advantage in TE premium. They’ll learn eventually. In any event, it’s a reasonable deal. Ppl are too low on DK, and apparently too low on McBride in TE prem
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Today I had someone ask me to give them a player for free. Wasn't a misclick.
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB- Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
1.02, 1.11
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB- Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
1.02, 1.11
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
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That’s not bad if it was Marshal Faulk
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Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
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Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
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1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
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2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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Woke up to this remarkable offer
Give: Ja’Marr Chase
Get: Terry McLaurin, Harrison Bryant
Give: Ja’Marr Chase
Get: Terry McLaurin, Harrison Bryant
12 Team Superflex - PPR, 0.25 PPC - QB/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex/Superflex
QB: L Jackson, Tagovailoa, Rodgers,l
RB: Pacheco, Spears, Ray Davis, Hubbard, Khalil Herbert, McLaughlin, Ty Chandler, Miles Sanders
WR: DeVonta, Waddle, Aiyuk, Nacua, Rashee, Keon Coleman, Pearsall, Hopkins, M Williams, Mingo, Wan’Dale, McCaffrey
TE: Kelce, Okonkwo
QB: L Jackson, Tagovailoa, Rodgers,l
RB: Pacheco, Spears, Ray Davis, Hubbard, Khalil Herbert, McLaughlin, Ty Chandler, Miles Sanders
WR: DeVonta, Waddle, Aiyuk, Nacua, Rashee, Keon Coleman, Pearsall, Hopkins, M Williams, Mingo, Wan’Dale, McCaffrey
TE: Kelce, Okonkwo
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what are you waiting for????? @TSafford.... this is one for the trophy caseRuggenater wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:49 am Woke up to this remarkable offer
Give: Ja’Marr Chase
Get: Terry McLaurin, Harrison Bryant
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
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2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers
True.Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:56 pm Depends what the premium is. 2ppr then I would argue McBride > Kyler. People still haven’t figured out the advantage in TE premium. They’ll learn eventually. In any event, it’s a reasonable deal. Ppl are too low on DK, and apparently too low on McBride in TE prem
All 4 of my TEP leagues are baby TEP, only 0.5 TEP.
Barely enough to qualify as TEP leagues, barely enough to move the needle.
I'd love to find a serious TEP league!!
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Re: 2024 Bad Trade Offers
Ruggenater wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:49 am Woke up to this remarkable offer
Give: Ja’Marr Chase
Get: Terry McLaurin, Harrison Bryant
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