SF 1.01 MHJ or Caleb
SF 1.01 MHJ or Caleb
So I have the 1.01 in the 24 rookie draft it’s a Superflex and I’m already torn between Caleb and MHJ. my Qbs as of right now are Geno,Aidan O’Conell and Zach Wilson, I don’t know what to do because the risk with Caleb and qbs being such a crap shoot sometimes I feel like going MHJ and worry about QB in 2025 as I have two 25 firsts which of course I know if i am worried about Caleb the risk is even greater with the 2025 qb class. MHJ is pretty much a can’t miss pick up to this point. Still lots of time and have to see landing spots but MHJ just feels so hard to pass up on and pair him with chase and Addison on my team. I would appreciate anyone’s input on this.
Re: SF 1.01 MHJ or Caleb
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Punch line: Have to be patient and let the NFL Draft happen. Need to see landing spots and draft capital on all the players. Now is not the time to sell the 1.01 nor is it time to lock in on a player.
Punch line: Have to be patient and let the NFL Draft happen. Need to see landing spots and draft capital on all the players. Now is not the time to sell the 1.01 nor is it time to lock in on a player.
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Re: SF 1.01 MHJ or Caleb
Wait for the draft. MHJ will be worthless if he lands in a bad spot, so is Caleb. Be patient.
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Re: SF 1.01 MHJ or Caleb
Landing spots play a part and there could be a case for either to go with the 1.01. On paper, Williams looks like the value and better play for the format and your build, but let it all play out and see how the process comes together. Don't get stuck on either right now.
Re: SF 1.01 MHJ or Caleb
take a breath...step away from the 'puter and go play golf or vacation... if you sit here and agonize over which one, you will drive yourself crazy. Let the offers come to you... consider all but remember there will most likely be a new and better one closer to draft day. Even then, if you keep the 1.01, step back, let it all play out so you have 100% of the facts as NO ONE can take the 1.01 away from you period.
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Re: SF 1.01 MHJ or Caleb
If youre worried about young QBs I would trade down for a QB that is established with another draft pick but as others have said I would definitely wait it out at this point. Offers will get better as people start wanting players more and more. The combine and draft will change things up significantly as well. AR15 went from 2nd round flyer to consensus top 3 pick. Its important to remember what the feelings were now so that you arent just influenced by the buzz after the combine and draft but they both play major parts. The NFL teams truly know what they're doing and I put a lot of stock into their judgement of where to draft players as well.
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Re: SF 1.01 MHJ or Caleb
Caleb easily for me here.
Re: SF 1.01 MHJ or Caleb
Yeah, not buying that. Top 5 NFL picks are never worthless, as they are generally situation proof.mgregoirec wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:44 am Wait for the draft. MHJ will be worthless if he lands in a bad spot, so is Caleb. Be patient.
OP - I'll echo everyone else and say hold tight. The 1.01 is only going to grow in value as hype train get rolling. No need to make a decision now.
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Re: SF 1.01 MHJ or Caleb
Bingo. You can have your cake and eat it too. Lots of options. Draft MHJ and make another trade for an established qb. You could trade the 1.01 for an elite qb (the shine is off Herbert, I bet some would go for that). I bet you could trade the pick for an established wr AND qb, best of both worlds. You could trade back acquiring more assets (picks or players) and still get a really really good player at 1.05/1.06. Lots of optionsfleaflickerchamp wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:29 am If youre worried about young QBs I would trade down for a QB that is established with another draft pick but as others have said I would definitely wait it out at this point. Offers will get better as people start wanting players more and more. The combine and draft will change things up significantly as well. AR15 went from 2nd round flyer to consensus top 3 pick. Its important to remember what the feelings were now so that you arent just influenced by the buzz after the combine and draft but they both play major parts. The NFL teams truly know what they're doing and I put a lot of stock into their judgement of where to draft players as well.
Since your qbs stink, be on the lookout for good deals. I’ve managed to cobble together qb rooms from not much, late-1sts is the most I’ve given and I’ve been able to aquire guys like Purdy, Carr, Geno, etc. I’ve had opportunities to pay a late-1 for Cousins that I’ve turned down in the past. There’s almost always opportunities out there if you stay vigilant.
Re: SF 1.01 MHJ or Caleb
"worthless". This is up there as the worst take I've seen in ages.CGW wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:06 pmYeah, not buying that. Top 5 NFL picks are never worthless, as they are generally situation proof.mgregoirec wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:44 am Wait for the draft. MHJ will be worthless if he lands in a bad spot, so is Caleb. Be patient.
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Re: SF 1.01 MHJ or Caleb
MHJ seems like he has a higher ceiling and higher floor and very low chance of being a bust
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Re: SF 1.01 MHJ or Caleb
I feel thisBulletproof wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:42 am MHJ seems like he has a higher ceiling and higher floor and very low chance of being a bust
Re: SF 1.01 MHJ or Caleb
Bryce Young, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Sam Darnold, Corey Davis all saying hello right now....CGW wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:06 pmYeah, not buying that. Top 5 NFL picks are never worthless, as they are generally situation proof.mgregoirec wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:44 am Wait for the draft. MHJ will be worthless if he lands in a bad spot, so is Caleb. Be patient.
OP - I'll echo everyone else and say hold tight. The 1.01 is only going to grow in value as hype train get rolling. No need to make a decision now.
They've all got different stories, but most of them lost their value VERY quickly
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Re: SF 1.01 MHJ or Caleb
Building on this for a second because I was curious...tdster17 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 5:11 amBryce Young, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Sam Darnold, Corey Davis all saying hello right now....CGW wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:06 pmYeah, not buying that. Top 5 NFL picks are never worthless, as they are generally situation proof.mgregoirec wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:44 am Wait for the draft. MHJ will be worthless if he lands in a bad spot, so is Caleb. Be patient.
OP - I'll echo everyone else and say hold tight. The 1.01 is only going to grow in value as hype train get rolling. No need to make a decision now.
They've all got different stories, but most of them lost their value VERY quickly
Since 2017 there have been 15 skill position players picked in the top 5 picks of the draft. Of those, I'd say 7 of them fell to pretty close to that "worthless" category within a season. Not a great hit rate by any definition
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Re: SF 1.01 MHJ or Caleb
I think you’re arguing something different than what CGW is saying. Of course after a season things can change.tdster17 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 5:16 amBuilding on this for a second because I was curious...
Since 2017 there have been 15 skill position players picked in the top 5 picks of the draft. Of those, I'd say 7 of them fell to pretty close to that "worthless" category within a season. Not a great hit rate by any definition
But as of draft time, even if they are drafted to a bad spot (before they theoretically actually perform bad in games)….most people aren’t going to care.
Those guys you mentioned didn’t lose value until they proved to suck.
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