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JJ for Waddle & Picks
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:47 pm
by Badgersfan222
Got an offer from a guy who wants to rebuild in 2025. I was also rebuilding but he wants draft capital. 12 team SF, PPR, & 1.75 TEP
He sends me: J. Jefferson, D. Carr, Monty, & J. Cook
I’d Give:
Waddle
3 firsts in 2025 (all late)
3 seconds 2025 (all late)
QB’s- J. Herbert, Cousins
RB- KW3, Achane, K. Miller, Alliger, A. Gibson
WR- Chase, Waddle, T. Higgins, Waddle, J. Reed, Addison, QJ,
TE- M. Andrews, Ferguson, Mayer, Fant
Re: JJ for Waddle & Picks
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:51 pm
by tstafford
Feels like an overpay to me. But I don't buy in to predicting where picks are going to land this far out. Especially three of them.
Re: JJ for Waddle & Picks
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:54 pm
by Badgersfan222
I agree. Feels like my team is on a path with draft capital.
Just the thought of JJ & Chase together
Re: JJ for Waddle & Picks
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:56 pm
by lukkynumber13
I think this is pretty darn even, although you'd better be a hopeful contender if you make this deal, since you're taking on some older assets
Re: JJ for Waddle & Picks
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:24 pm
by Gator Sens
Jefferson is the best piece but I think this comes down to if you think Montgomery and Cook are good assets over the next two or so years.
Re: JJ for Waddle & Picks
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:13 pm
by Badgersfan222
I’m not sure if this changes it, but the guy did agree to swap out Montgomery and change it to ETN
I feel like that changes it enough by getting three years younger with the #3RB
Re: JJ for Waddle & Picks
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:35 am
by tstafford
Badgersfan222 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:13 pm
I’m not sure if this changes it, but the guy did agree to swap out Montgomery and change it to ETN
I feel like that changes it enough by getting three years younger with the #3RB
Changes it for me. As much as I don't like paying for elite RBs (like ETN) nor do I like giving up a ton of draft capital, this deal is pretty nice. And I'm saying that with the POV that the picks are more random than necessarily late.
I'd take it. (And I try to flip ETN)
Re: JJ for Waddle & Picks
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:07 am
by killer_of_giants
etienne is worth a 1st by himself, cook at a couple of seconds seems about right (or even all 3, if they're all late).
then you have waddle and two late 1sts for jefferson and you get a free carr. i'd say it's a pretty good deal.
Re: JJ for Waddle & Picks
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:32 am
by TheTroll
tstafford wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:35 am
Badgersfan222 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:13 pm
I’m not sure if this changes it, but the guy did agree to swap out Montgomery and change it to ETN
I feel like that changes it enough by getting three years younger with the #3RB
Changes it for me. As much as I don't like paying for elite RBs (like ETN) nor do I like giving up a ton of draft capital, this deal is pretty nice. And I'm saying that with the POV that the picks are more random than necessarily late.
I'd take it. (And I try to flip ETN)
This
Re: JJ for Waddle & Picks
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:21 am
by The.Big.Spank
I think thats a fair trade for JJ and I would take it.
Re: JJ for Waddle & Picks
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:51 pm
by Dynasty DeLorean
Etienne probably makes it a fair deal. Given the TEP aspect, even late 1sts are really valuable.
Re: JJ for Waddle & Picks
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:52 am
by abloom
seems fine to me. though i'd look to flip carr almost immediately.
Re: JJ for Waddle & Picks
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:17 am
by tstafford
abloom wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:52 am
seems fine to me. though i'd look to flip carr almost immediately.
In my experience (as a SF Carr manager) that isn't likely to work. He's probably worth more as a QB3 option than what you'll get in draft picks in return. But it's worth a try. And if the offer is a random 2nd, I'd say that's about the ceiling on value. Just depends on whether you'd prefer the random 2nd or a guy who's going to put un ~14 points in your SF slot on bye weeks. Does seem that NOS is fairly committed to him. But ~14 points kind of stinks.
Re: JJ for Waddle & Picks
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:41 am
by abloom
tstafford wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:17 am
abloom wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:52 am
seems fine to me. though i'd look to flip carr almost immediately.
In my experience (as a SF Carr manager) that isn't likely to work. He's probably worth more as a QB3 option than what you'll get in draft picks in return. But it's worth a try. And if the offer is a random 2nd, I'd say that's about the ceiling on value. Just depends on whether you'd prefer the random 2nd or a guy who's going to put un ~14 points in your SF slot on bye weeks. Does seem that NOS is fairly committed to him. But ~14 points kind of stinks.
I think a random second would be fine for carr.
Re: JJ for Waddle & Picks
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:18 am
by Tvols
with ETN i thinks it ok deal, just depends on how u fee about your own build. I lean to take it..