Neglected roster - Am I being stingy? (update)

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Neglected roster - Am I being stingy? (update)

Postby Prison_Mike » Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:19 am

12tm PPR SF Bestball 0.5-TEP

This is by far my worst dynasty team. I tried bestball for the first time last year. I hate it, it just lends itself to being neglected since I don't have to check in once a week to manage lineups (and this particular league runs waivers every few weeks).

So I'm trying to overhaul a neglected roster but I'm having trouble getting a deal done.

After some back and forth, I have 3 offers:

Give: Fields + Kamara + Keenan + faab
Get: Cousins + Andrews + playoff '24 1st & 2nd

Give: Fields + Moore + R.White
Get: Richardson + Addison

Give: Keenan + Kamara + faab
Get: Musgrave + playoff ‘24 1st

Update with another counter:

Give: Fields + DJM + White + Mixon
Get: Richardson + Addison + Spears

Thoughts?

No difference other than resetting the RB clock a bit with a Mixon/Spears swap


The first deal is probably better on value and gives me a chance to recoup some value on aging guys that I probably otherwise won't be able to sell. The second deal is probably also fine on value but Fields seems like a similar bet to AR and call me crazy but I still like DJM more than Addison

Am I being stingy? Should I take one of these?

Edit: it is also relevant that I’m barreling toward QB purgatory with a QB room of: Fields, Jimmy G, Trubisky

And I narrowly missed the playoffs so my picks are mid (1.06/2.06/etc)
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Re: Neglected roster - Am I being stingy?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:46 am

would consider deal 2 but not blown away by any of these, worth countering though. deal 3 dude gotta have more to offer than musgrave and a late 1 for win now pieces
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Neglected roster - Am I being stingy?

Postby Prison_Mike » Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:50 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:46 am would consider deal 2 but not blown away by any of these, worth countering though. deal 3 dude gotta have more to offer than musgrave and a late 1 for win now pieces
Thanks. Unfortunately all of these are after multiple counters, so we're nearing final offer territory, and I agree that I'm not blown away by any of them. For Deal 2, we might be able to sub Herbert in for Richardson, with minimal changes (based on talks)

And yes, that's what I said lol. Deal 1 and Deal 3 are obviously the same owner. Yesterday he offered his 1st for Keenan and Kamara and I said yeah I can't give them both for a playoff 1st. Last night, I took the QBs out of it and offered Kamara + Keenan + Mayer + $192 for Andrews + late 1st + late 2nd. Thought that was reasonable. The Musgrave offer is his counter to that, saying that he'd need two 1sts to sell Andrews, and he doesn't think AK/KA/Mayer is worth three 1sts

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Re: Neglected roster - Am I being stingy?

Postby TheTroll » Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:07 am

Prison_Mike wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:50 am
BigBawseRoss wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:46 am would consider deal 2 but not blown away by any of these, worth countering though. deal 3 dude gotta have more to offer than musgrave and a late 1 for win now pieces
Thanks. Unfortunately all of these are after multiple counters, so we're nearing final offer territory, and I agree that I'm not blown away by any of them. For Deal 2, we might be able to sub Herbert in for Richardson, with minimal changes (based on talks)

And yes, that's what I said lol. Deal 1 and Deal 3 are obviously the same owner. Yesterday he offered his 1st for Keenan and Kamara and I said yeah I can't give them both for a playoff 1st. Last night, I took the QBs out of it and offered Kamara + Keenan + Mayer + $192 for Andrews + late 1st + late 2nd. Thought that was reasonable. The Musgrave offer is his counter to that, saying that he'd need two 1sts to sell Andrews, and he doesn't think AK/KA/Mayer is worth three 1sts
Prison Mike you have you answers here sir
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Neglected roster - Am I being stingy?

Postby Prison_Mike » Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:14 am

TheTroll wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:07 am
Prison_Mike wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:50 am
BigBawseRoss wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:46 am would consider deal 2 but not blown away by any of these, worth countering though. deal 3 dude gotta have more to offer than musgrave and a late 1 for win now pieces
Thanks. Unfortunately all of these are after multiple counters, so we're nearing final offer territory, and I agree that I'm not blown away by any of them. For Deal 2, we might be able to sub Herbert in for Richardson, with minimal changes (based on talks)

And yes, that's what I said lol. Deal 1 and Deal 3 are obviously the same owner. Yesterday he offered his 1st for Keenan and Kamara and I said yeah I can't give them both for a playoff 1st. Last night, I took the QBs out of it and offered Kamara + Keenan + Mayer + $192 for Andrews + late 1st + late 2nd. Thought that was reasonable. The Musgrave offer is his counter to that, saying that he'd need two 1sts to sell Andrews, and he doesn't think AK/KA/Mayer is worth three 1sts
Prison Mike you have you answers here sir
Do you mean deal 2 w/ Herbert, otherwise hold?

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Re: Neglected roster - Am I being stingy?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:44 am

if you can get herbert for fields im super into that
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Neglected roster - Am I being stingy?

Postby Prison_Mike » Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:23 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:44 am if you can get herbert for fields im super into that
Yeah we'll see. The offer that's sitting in his inbox currently is Fields/DJM/White for Herbert/Addison/3rd.

If that doesn't do it maybe I'll add Mixon, who he's also expressed some interest in

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Re: Neglected roster - Am I being stingy?

Postby Prison_Mike » Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:45 am

Just got another counter

Give: Fields + DJM + White + Mixon
Get: Richardson + Addison + Spears

Thoughts?

No difference other than resetting the RB clock a bit with a Mixon/Spears swap

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Re: Neglected roster - Am I being stingy?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Dec 13, 2023 10:14 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:44 am if you can get herbert for fields im super into that
I agree here. The other three original offers are not great for me and I would not be thrilled with any of them.

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Re: Neglected roster - Am I being stingy? (update)

Postby Prison_Mike » Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:52 pm

Ended up making a deal for Herbert

Gave: Fields + DJM + Mixon + R.White
Got: Herbert + Addison + Spears

I don’t love it but I figure, (per KTC), I went from:

WR16 —> WR14
RB27 —> RB23
and paid Rachaad White to move from Fields to Herbert

If I frame it that way, I’ll take it

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Re: Neglected roster - Am I being stingy? (update)

Postby BucBuc » Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:59 pm

I would’ve held but it’s not terrible
TEAM 1
12 Team Half PPR Superflex ..1Qb , 2Rb, 3Wr,1 Te, 2Flex 1Superflex 1Def
QBs: Dak,Goff, Burrow
RBS: Bijan,Pacheco,D.Harris,Fournette,GibsonDillon,Penny, Darell Williams,Chestnut,Ty Chandler,M
Ingram, Goodson, K.Ingram
WR:Lamb,Tee,DJM,AJB, Boyd
TE Goedert,
DEF Eagles, Broncos,


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