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Re: Superflex QBs not named Williams/Maye

Postby wickerkat1212 » Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:38 pm

Ruggenater wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:53 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:16 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:02 am

X2. 1 QB thread for this class would have sufficed.
Lumps wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 10:28 am How many threads are needed for this class? C’mon…
Is there another one? I was mostly curious about:

1. Superflex
2. QBs beyond Wiliams/Maye

If this is redundant to a dedicated 2024 QB thread that exists, my apologies. Point me to that one and I'll delete this.
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=225789&sid=7d783a1a ... 3966da5ad9

No need for a dedicated superflex or QB thread. It’s all in the 2024 draft thread.
Well, I wanted to talk about some specifics here, so I'll disagree, but thanks for that link. I'm in there.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Superflex QBs not named Williams/Maye

Postby wickerkat1212 » Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:38 pm

Lumps wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:06 pm
Ruggenater wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:53 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:16 am



Is there another one? I was mostly curious about:

1. Superflex
2. QBs beyond Wiliams/Maye

If this is redundant to a dedicated 2024 QB thread that exists, my apologies. Point me to that one and I'll delete this.
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=225789&sid=7d783a1a ... 3966da5ad9

No need for a dedicated superflex or QB thread. It’s all in the 2024 draft thread.
There’s even a Caleb/Maye thread. Started by the same person.
Really? How did I miss that? Link? Thanks! Appreciate it.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Superflex QBs not named Williams/Maye

Postby wickerkat1212 » Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:39 pm

Sriracha wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:28 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:15 am
Cameron Giles wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 9:59 am Jayden Daniels for me because of the dual-threat upside. I think he's the best of the late declare/older QBs in this class. He's having a very special season in the best conference in football. He's likely going to finish with 4000+ passing yards, 40 passing TDs, 1100 rushing yards, and 10+ rushing TDs.

JJ McCarthy is also really intriguing.
Thanks.
Assuming Daniels gets 1st round draft capital, I agree with this but I'd be looking to move Daniels early after he spikes. I could see him putting out a solid rookie season before defenses exploit his deficincies; Similar to what we saw out of another highly mobile QB with an unorthodox release that displayed accuracy at the college level -- Marcus Mariota

Long term, his throwing mechanics scare me.

Ewers and Sanders will almost assuredly come back for their Senior seasons, as well.
Good stuff here, thanks!
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Superflex QBs not named Williams/Maye

Postby Ruggenater » Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:05 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:38 pm
Lumps wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:06 pm
Ruggenater wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:53 am

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=225789&sid=7d783a1a ... 3966da5ad9

No need for a dedicated superflex or QB thread. It’s all in the 2024 draft thread.
There’s even a Caleb/Maye thread. Started by the same person.
Really? How did I miss that? Link? Thanks! Appreciate it.
Started by you: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=240149

No reason you can’t talk specifics in the main draft thread. That’s exactly what others are using it for.
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QB: L Jackson, Tagovailoa, Rodgers,l
RB: Pacheco, Spears, Ray Davis, Hubbard, Khalil Herbert, McLaughlin, Ty Chandler, Miles Sanders
WR: DeVonta, Waddle, Aiyuk, Nacua, Rashee, Keon Coleman, Pearsall, Hopkins, M Williams, Mingo, Wan’Dale, McCaffrey
TE: Kelce, Okonkwo

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Re: Superflex QBs not named Williams/Maye

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:29 pm

Ruggenater wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:05 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:38 pm
Lumps wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:06 pm

There’s even a Caleb/Maye thread. Started by the same person.
Really? How did I miss that? Link? Thanks! Appreciate it.
Started by you: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=240149

No reason you can’t talk specifics in the main draft thread. That’s exactly what others are using it for.
Just don't start a 2013 Supeflex QB thread, Wicker. :lol:
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Re: Superflex QBs not named Williams/Maye

Postby TheTroll » Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:38 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:29 pm
Ruggenater wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:05 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:38 pm

Really? How did I miss that? Link? Thanks! Appreciate it.
Started by you: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=240149

No reason you can’t talk specifics in the main draft thread. That’s exactly what others are using it for.
Just don't start a 2013 Supeflex QB thread, Wicker. :lol:

maybe a 1923 Superflex Thread? Look the Bears were decent back then.

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Canton Bulldogs 11 0 1 1.000 246 19 227 18.9 -3.1 15.8 11.6 4.3
Chicago Bears 9 2 1 .818 123 35 88 7.3 -2.2 5.1 0.5 4.6
Green Bay Packers 7 2 1 .778 85 34 51 5.1 -2.1 3.0 1.1 1.8
Milwaukee Badgers 7 2 3 .778 100 49 51 4.3 -0.2 4.0 0.5 3.6
Cleveland Indians 3 1 3 .750 52 49 3 0.4 -2.5 -2.0 -2.3 0.2
Chicago Cardinals 8 4 0 .667 161 56 105 8.8 -7.1 1.7 1.0 0.6
Duluth Kelleys 4 3 0 .571 35 33 2 0.3 1.8 2.1 -1.0 3.1
Buffalo All-Americans 5 4 3 .556 94 43 51 4.3 -0.5 3.7 -2.0 5.7
Columbus Tigers 5 4 1 .556 119 35 84 8.4 -4.2 4.2 1.9 2.2
Toledo Maroons 3 3 2 .500 35 66 -31 -3.9 -0.7 -4.6 -6.4 1.8
Racine Legion 4 4 2 .500 86 76 10 1.0 -0.2 0.8 1.9 -1.1
Rock Island Independents 2 3 3 .400 84 62 22 2.8 -4.7 -1.9 0.3 -2.2
Minneapolis Marines 2 5 2 .286 48 81 -33 -3.7 0.1 -3.5 -3.4 -0.1
St. Louis All-Stars 1 4 2 .200 14 39 -25 -3.6 -0.8 -4.4 -6.3 1.9
Hammond Pros 1 5 1 .167 14 59 -45 -6.4 8.0 1.6 -1.2 2.8
Dayton Triangles 1 6 1 .143 16 95 -79 -9.9 8.3 -1.6 -0.8 -0.8
Akron Pros 1 6 0 .143 25 74 -49 -7.0 9.7 2.7 1.4 1.3
Oorang Indians 1 10 0 .091 50 257 -207 -18.8 6.5 -12.4 0.9 -13.2
Louisville Brecks 0 3 0 .000 0 90 -90 -30.0 4.9 -25.1 -9.0 -16.1
Rochester Jeffersons 0 4 0 .000 6 141 -135 -33.8 -0.3 -34.0 -4.9 -29.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Superflex QBs not named Williams/Maye

Postby wickerkat1212 » Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:21 pm

Ruggenater wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:05 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:38 pm
Lumps wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:06 pm

There’s even a Caleb/Maye thread. Started by the same person.
Really? How did I miss that? Link? Thanks! Appreciate it.
Started by you: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=240149

No reason you can’t talk specifics in the main draft thread. That’s exactly what others are using it for.
LOL. That other thread was for CW/Maye. This one is for the OTHER QBS in the draft. I am happy to focus on the main thread, I feel like I always derail the conversation or ask about my personal rosters. So if that's cool, I guess I can do that.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Superflex QBs not named Williams/Maye

Postby wickerkat1212 » Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:21 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:29 pm
Ruggenater wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:05 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:38 pm

Really? How did I miss that? Link? Thanks! Appreciate it.
Started by you: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=240149

No reason you can’t talk specifics in the main draft thread. That’s exactly what others are using it for.
Just don't start a 2013 Supeflex QB thread, Wicker. :lol:
LOL
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Superflex QBs not named Williams/Maye

Postby Lumps » Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:38 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:21 pm
Ruggenater wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:05 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:38 pm

Really? How did I miss that? Link? Thanks! Appreciate it.
Started by you: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=240149

No reason you can’t talk specifics in the main draft thread. That’s exactly what others are using it for.
LOL. That other thread was for CW/Maye. This one is for the OTHER QBS in the draft. I am happy to focus on the main thread, I feel like I always derail the conversation or ask about my personal rosters. So if that's cool, I guess I can do that.
Well there is always team advice for your personal roster questions. So if a thread is talking about the 24 draft and you talk about your personal roster…I mean you ARE derailing it. Forecasting your draft picks right now is an absolute waste of time and derailing of a thread.

There is zero reason to have 3 threads on the main page for the 24 class, Caleb/Maye, and non Caleb/Maye.
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Re: Superflex QBs not named Williams/Maye

Postby wickerkat1212 » Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:52 pm

Lumps wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:38 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:21 pm
Ruggenater wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:05 pm

Started by you: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=240149

No reason you can’t talk specifics in the main draft thread. That’s exactly what others are using it for.
LOL. That other thread was for CW/Maye. This one is for the OTHER QBS in the draft. I am happy to focus on the main thread, I feel like I always derail the conversation or ask about my personal rosters. So if that's cool, I guess I can do that.
Well there is always team advice for your personal roster questions. So if a thread is talking about the 24 draft and you talk about your personal roster…I mean you ARE derailing it. Forecasting your draft picks right now is an absolute waste of time and derailing of a thread.

There is zero reason to have 3 threads on the main page for the 24 class, Caleb/Maye, and non Caleb/Maye.
True, team advice I do use for specific teams. I guess that makes sense, the 2024 class thread can cover a wide range of things. Sometimes I feel like specific posts in a thread don't get as much input and advice as a dedicated thread. Thanks for your thoughts here.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Superflex QBs not named Williams/Maye

Postby Cameron Giles » Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:18 pm

In theory, I don't think having a designated thread for QBs outside of the Big 2 is the worst thing. Sometimes digging through the draft thread is a chore to find what you're looking for.

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Re: Superflex QBs not named Williams/Maye

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Thu Nov 30, 2023 5:48 pm

Is it me or is Daniel’s a dark horse for QB1

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Re: Superflex QBs not named Williams/Maye

Postby StripesOfKC » Thu Nov 30, 2023 5:54 pm

Michael Penix about to go day 3

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Re: Superflex QBs not named Williams/Maye

Postby TheTroll » Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:09 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 5:48 pm Is it me or is Daniel’s a dark horse for QB1
I follow him every week and he has really impressed for sure. Of course having 3 top WRs to throw to helps!
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Superflex QBs not named Williams/Maye

Postby CGW » Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:50 pm

I'm thinking we need a Daniels and Penix thread as well rather than lumping them in with the non CW/Maye QBs.


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