Trade already got 1 veto (F Vetos!)

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Trade already got 1 veto (F Vetos!)

Postby saw061600 » Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:52 am

Team 1, 10 team non PPR, 1QB start 2-3 RB.

I'm tied for first, team I'm trading with is in rebuild. Already 1 veto for this pending trade.

Give: 2024 late first, Doubs
Get: Mixon, 2024 early 3rd, 2025 2nd.

Full disclosure, 10 team league makes the 3rd an late 2nd in reality, which was factored into trade values.
This is also the owner who bought GDavis for an early 24 first last year which started a whole fiasco leading to the now veto vote bull bleep. Basically, we've a league of Karens trying to tell an owner how to run his team.
10 TM No PPR or waiver 85RST
Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph

12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Mayfield
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Kirk ZJones RMoore Thornton
Hock F-muth
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson

1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
AJB Diggs Evans Kirk McLaurin Dionte Boyd Renfrow JuJu
Kelce Pitts Deguara
Hutchinson Rousseau Greenard Travon Demarcus
QWilliams EJones TBernard Dean ShaqT Kyzir
Amos Bates Peppers Murray Fitz Clark

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Re: Trade already got 1 veto (F Vetos!)

Postby Dibbles » Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:53 am

Wow thats awful. I would bail on that league immediately tbh.

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Re: Trade already got 1 veto (F Vetos!)

Postby tstafford » Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:55 am

Confused. Which side of this is supposed to be way better?

Honestly - I think the dude got great value for Mixon.

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Re: Trade already got 1 veto (F Vetos!)

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:57 am

Mixon is worth a late 1st at best long term, but makes sense for a contender. Doubs and the future 2nd matchup. I don't see anything wrong with this deal either way.

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Re: Trade already got 1 veto (F Vetos!)

Postby Prison_Mike » Wed Nov 08, 2023 7:08 am

You've just highlighted yet another reason why vetoes are terrible. A manager's reputation should not be a consideration when determining the validity or fairness of a trade. He made a bad trade for Gabe Davis. That should have no bearing on this deal, which is more than fair

I'm with Dibbles, I'd bounce

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Re: Trade already got 1 veto (F Vetos!)

Postby abloom » Wed Nov 08, 2023 7:21 am

Veto the veto

Honestly if this trade is vetoed I'd just leave the league.


Also get rid of vetoes
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: Trade already got 1 veto (F Vetos!)

Postby frerichs5 » Wed Nov 08, 2023 7:29 am

tstafford wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:55 am Confused. Which side of this is supposed to be way better?

Honestly - I think the dude got great value for Mixon.
x2. Especially in 10 team where “late 1st” could be closer to mid 1st in 12 team leagues.

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Re: Trade already got 1 veto (F Vetos!)

Postby 24FlavorsofFun » Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:49 am

Lemme guess, one of the teams competing for the title vetoed?
I'd bail on the league. If anything you're overpaying, but its worth it for you to push for the title.
Fig Newtons - 12 team superflex .5 ppr, qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, te, Flex, SF
QB - Dak, Brissett, Purdy
RB - Najee, Swift, J.Robinson, D.Henderson, McKinnon,
WR - M.Thomas, D.Hop, DJ Moore, Miller, G.Davis, MVS
TE - Kittle, Gesicki, Hockenson
Picks: 2023 - 1, 2, 2, 3, 4

Young Newts - 14 team .25 ppr Superflex, qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, te, wr/rb, OP
QB - Allen, Wilson, Cousins
RB - Chubb, L.Bell, Ingram, K.Johnson, Mack, T.Coleman
WR - M.Thomas, OBJ, Woods, Moore, Godwin, R.Anderson
TE - Gesicki, Witten, Irv
Picks: 2022 - 3, 4, 5


DirkaDirka - 12 team PPR Superflex
QB: Mayfield, Allen, M.Ryan, Bridgewater, Mond
RB: Mixon, Swift, Sanders, Ekeler, DJ, Kerryon
WR: Tyreek, A.Cooper, D.Adams, A-Rob, C.Davis, P.Williams, V.Jefferson, Duverney
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Hollister
2022: All picks

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Re: Trade already got 1 veto (F Vetos!)

Postby slaughterrt » Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:00 am

Leagues with vetoes are a joke.

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Re: Trade already got 1 veto (F Vetos!)

Postby saw061600 » Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:06 am

24FlavorsofFun wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:49 am Lemme guess, one of the teams competing for the title vetoed?
I'd bail on the league. If anything you're overpaying, but its worth it for you to push for the title.
Yep, owner tied for 2nd but "nobody will act only in their best interests when vetoing," at least that's what I was told when this veto crap was added, without VOTE, this offseason.
10 TM No PPR or waiver 85RST
Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph

12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Mayfield
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Kirk ZJones RMoore Thornton
Hock F-muth
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson

1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
AJB Diggs Evans Kirk McLaurin Dionte Boyd Renfrow JuJu
Kelce Pitts Deguara
Hutchinson Rousseau Greenard Travon Demarcus
QWilliams EJones TBernard Dean ShaqT Kyzir
Amos Bates Peppers Murray Fitz Clark

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Re: Trade already got 1 veto (F Vetos!)

Postby TheTroll » Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:11 am

the "gave" Mixon side is the clear winner here. getting a first and Doubs...
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Trade already got 1 veto (F Vetos!)

Postby slaughterrt » Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:16 pm

Yeah clearly this veto system is being abused. Strike one. And clearly there are underlying league issues if the commish instituted league vetoes without having a league vote. Strike two. I wouldn’t bother waiting on strike three. Don’t waste your time in a league like this, when there are plenty of good leagues out there.

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Re: Trade already got 1 veto (F Vetos!)

Postby abloom » Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:31 pm

TheTroll wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:11 am the "gave" Mixon side is the clear winner here. getting a first and Doubs...
Two weeks ago I gave doubs and a first for walker. Rather have doubts and pick now and I'm pretty sure I still have walker ahead of mixon
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: Trade already got 1 veto (F Vetos!)

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:16 pm

Trade is fine. Screw vetoes. WTH. I'd propose to remove the veto or leave. It's BS.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Trade already got 1 veto (F Vetos!)

Postby saw061600 » Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:16 pm

Same owner just completed this trade:
Give: Godwin round 10 pick (can explain why that's a thing later if you want)
Get: Dowdle and Henderson

And MY trades are BAD! Hell, this is one I would VETO if I believed in Vetos.
This is why I told the Commissioner to keep it at his discretion, man up and say HELL NO if a trade is truly crazy rather than leave it up to a bunch of self-serving owners (because in the end we kind of all are) to make decisions about trades.
10 TM No PPR or waiver 85RST
Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph

12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Mayfield
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Kirk ZJones RMoore Thornton
Hock F-muth
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson

1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
AJB Diggs Evans Kirk McLaurin Dionte Boyd Renfrow JuJu
Kelce Pitts Deguara
Hutchinson Rousseau Greenard Travon Demarcus
QWilliams EJones TBernard Dean ShaqT Kyzir
Amos Bates Peppers Murray Fitz Clark


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