Lost Cousins, Stafford and D Jones (SF/TEP)

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Lost Cousins, Stafford and D Jones (SF/TEP)

Postby WOATjohn » Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:53 am

I’ve had terrible luck with an early contending team with NO PICKS (I inherited an orphan) and now I lose all of my starting QBs.

Having no picks makes this real tricky but I do have some younger core players but I’m nervous to trade them away to try to bandaid this team losing long term value.

I was offered Jaren Hall and mid-late 24 2nd for Tank Dell.

Dell splashed early on, but a 2nd in a SF/TEP for Dell doesn’t seem terrible either.

My team:
QB: Cousins, Stafford, Jones
RB: Ekeler, Henry, Montgomery, Mixon, Allgeier, McClaughlin, Gainwell, K Ingram, Strong, Singletary
WR: Kupp, Cooper, JSN, Dell, Toney, W Robinson, Atwell, Phillips, T Palmer, Tillman
TE: Goedert, McBride, Schultz, Granson
ZERO PICKS

Start 1QB, 1SF, 2RB, 3WR, 2Flex
12tm SF/TEP 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
**23 Champ**
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield, B Zappe
RB: Ekeler, Pollard, Mostert, Warren, A Jones, Mattison, Dillon, D Cook, Gray
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Dortch, Hardman
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, I Smith, Ruckert, Hendershot, Washington
3, 4

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
1st rd exit
QB: Jackson, Watson, Howell
RB: Breece, Bijan, Mostert, R Johnson, Demercado, D Foreman, Gray, D Johnson
WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, D Bell, Bateman, N Brown, Phillips, Gage, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson, Granson

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
FULL REBUILD
QB: Richardson, Ridder, Lance
RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
WR: G Davis, Hollywood, M Wilson, WanDale, Pierce, R Moore, Bell, Marshall
TE: Freiermuth, Kraft, Knox, Ruckert, Schoonmaker, Strange
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Re: Lost Cousins, Stafford and D Jones (SF/TEP)

Postby Last Place » Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:06 am

Honestly, your done in that league for this year. If I were you, Ekeler, Henry, Montgomery, Mixon, Allgeier, Kupp, Cooper, Goedert would all be traded for picks. Some others will probably disagree, but i would do a complete blow up and work on the rebuild. The fact the previous owner traded all of your future picks, and thats still the team you have is pretty bad. Trade those guys for draft picks and young players.
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RB: Etienne, Hall, Gibbs, K. Miller, D. Singletary, Spiller, Kelly
WR: G. Wilson, Metcalf, Downs, Toney.
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Re: Lost Cousins, Stafford and D Jones (SF/TEP)

Postby WOATjohn » Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:29 am

Last Place wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:06 am Honestly, your done in that league for this year. If I were you, Ekeler, Henry, Montgomery, Mixon, Allgeier, Kupp, Cooper, Goedert would all be traded for picks. Some others will probably disagree, but i would do a complete blow up and work on the rebuild. The fact the previous owner traded all of your future picks, and thats still the team you have is pretty bad. Trade those guys for draft picks and young players.
Picks are incredibly overvalued here because it’s split into two tiers, rebuilders and competitors. People with picks aren’t trading them away
12tm SF/TEP 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
**23 Champ**
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield, B Zappe
RB: Ekeler, Pollard, Mostert, Warren, A Jones, Mattison, Dillon, D Cook, Gray
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Dortch, Hardman
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, I Smith, Ruckert, Hendershot, Washington
3, 4

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
1st rd exit
QB: Jackson, Watson, Howell
RB: Breece, Bijan, Mostert, R Johnson, Demercado, D Foreman, Gray, D Johnson
WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, D Bell, Bateman, N Brown, Phillips, Gage, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson, Granson

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
FULL REBUILD
QB: Richardson, Ridder, Lance
RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
WR: G Davis, Hollywood, M Wilson, WanDale, Pierce, R Moore, Bell, Marshall
TE: Freiermuth, Kraft, Knox, Ruckert, Schoonmaker, Strange
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Re: Lost Cousins, Stafford and D Jones (SF/TEP)

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:55 am

I would go the opposite direction here and start shopping your older pieces that are looking to decline heavily on the market after this season. This is really bad luck that all of your QBs went down in SF, but no matter how good a team is, there is almost no coming back from that in the format. I would start shopping to see if it's worth getting out of your older assets now for value and looking to next season. if the returns are not there, then I would try to patch QB if that is your only option but I would be going the other way to start looking at options.

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Re: Lost Cousins, Stafford and D Jones (SF/TEP)

Postby Last Place » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:07 am

brutuswins wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:29 am
Last Place wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:06 am Honestly, your done in that league for this year. If I were you, Ekeler, Henry, Montgomery, Mixon, Allgeier, Kupp, Cooper, Goedert would all be traded for picks. Some others will probably disagree, but i would do a complete blow up and work on the rebuild. The fact the previous owner traded all of your future picks, and thats still the team you have is pretty bad. Trade those guys for draft picks and young players.
Picks are incredibly overvalued here because it’s split into two tiers, rebuilders and competitors. People with picks aren’t trading them away
Is this a league where the teams that finish in the top 6 dont have picks the next year, but the teams that finish in the bottom 6 do? Just trying to understand the teir thing.
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RB: Etienne, Hall, Gibbs, K. Miller, D. Singletary, Spiller, Kelly
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Re: Lost Cousins, Stafford and D Jones (SF/TEP)

Postby TheTroll » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:32 am

geezzz, bad luck for sure. obviously get what you can...pick your battles, some contenders might have a bad week or two and be motivated to sure up this year for a pick. It's all timing
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RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

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2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn

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2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
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Re: Lost Cousins, Stafford and D Jones (SF/TEP)

Postby WOATjohn » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:01 am

Last Place wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:07 am
brutuswins wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:29 am
Last Place wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:06 am Honestly, your done in that league for this year. If I were you, Ekeler, Henry, Montgomery, Mixon, Allgeier, Kupp, Cooper, Goedert would all be traded for picks. Some others will probably disagree, but i would do a complete blow up and work on the rebuild. The fact the previous owner traded all of your future picks, and thats still the team you have is pretty bad. Trade those guys for draft picks and young players.
Picks are incredibly overvalued here because it’s split into two tiers, rebuilders and competitors. People with picks aren’t trading them away
Is this a league where the teams that finish in the top 6 dont have picks the next year, but the teams that finish in the bottom 6 do? Just trying to understand the teir thing.
No no, but the top tier have mostly already traded their picks away and the lower tier is not trading their picks for aging vets
12tm SF/TEP 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
**23 Champ**
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield, B Zappe
RB: Ekeler, Pollard, Mostert, Warren, A Jones, Mattison, Dillon, D Cook, Gray
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Dortch, Hardman
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, I Smith, Ruckert, Hendershot, Washington
3, 4

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
1st rd exit
QB: Jackson, Watson, Howell
RB: Breece, Bijan, Mostert, R Johnson, Demercado, D Foreman, Gray, D Johnson
WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, D Bell, Bateman, N Brown, Phillips, Gage, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson, Granson

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
FULL REBUILD
QB: Richardson, Ridder, Lance
RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
WR: G Davis, Hollywood, M Wilson, WanDale, Pierce, R Moore, Bell, Marshall
TE: Freiermuth, Kraft, Knox, Ruckert, Schoonmaker, Strange
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Re: Lost Cousins, Stafford and D Jones (SF/TEP)

Postby WOATjohn » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:04 am

Daniel jones may return next week and I do have Zappe. Next week looks winnable but we also play against league median.
12tm SF/TEP 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
**23 Champ**
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield, B Zappe
RB: Ekeler, Pollard, Mostert, Warren, A Jones, Mattison, Dillon, D Cook, Gray
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Dortch, Hardman
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, I Smith, Ruckert, Hendershot, Washington
3, 4

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
1st rd exit
QB: Jackson, Watson, Howell
RB: Breece, Bijan, Mostert, R Johnson, Demercado, D Foreman, Gray, D Johnson
WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, D Bell, Bateman, N Brown, Phillips, Gage, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson, Granson

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
FULL REBUILD
QB: Richardson, Ridder, Lance
RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
WR: G Davis, Hollywood, M Wilson, WanDale, Pierce, R Moore, Bell, Marshall
TE: Freiermuth, Kraft, Knox, Ruckert, Schoonmaker, Strange
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Re: Lost Cousins, Stafford and D Jones (SF/TEP)

Postby Last Place » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:18 am

brutuswins wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:01 am
Last Place wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:07 am
brutuswins wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:29 am

Picks are incredibly overvalued here because it’s split into two tiers, rebuilders and competitors. People with picks aren’t trading them away
Is this a league where the teams that finish in the top 6 dont have picks the next year, but the teams that finish in the bottom 6 do? Just trying to understand the teir thing.
No no, but the top tier have mostly already traded their picks away and the lower tier is not trading their picks for aging vets
Ahhhh, got ya. Can you do out year picks? like 2025 and 2026? Maybe those guys in the top half would be willing to part with out year picks to lock down a strong championship run. You would probably have to deal with another down year next year, but that would just lead to a top 3 pick which, coupled with the picks you trade for, could set you up for a strong rebuild.
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QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, SF, 4 FLEX

QB: Allen, Tua, Levis, O'Conner
RB: Etienne, Hall, Gibbs, K. Miller, D. Singletary, Spiller, Kelly
WR: G. Wilson, Metcalf, Downs, Toney.
TE: Kincaid, Pitts

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Re: Lost Cousins, Stafford and D Jones (SF/TEP)

Postby abloom » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:20 am

Jones cleared for contact.

Just stay the course.
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R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
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T: Kelce, Goedert
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R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
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T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
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Re: Lost Cousins, Stafford and D Jones (SF/TEP)

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:21 am

As Bloom mentioned, Jones should be back this week and you can let it play out and see how your team looks in the coming weeks and re-evaluate from there. If the wheels come off again, start shopping your older assets.

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Re: Lost Cousins, Stafford and D Jones (SF/TEP)

Postby WOATjohn » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:25 am

Gator Sens wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:21 am As Bloom mentioned, Jones should be back this week and you can let it play out and see how your team looks in the coming weeks and re-evaluate from there. If the wheels come off again, start shopping your older assets.
Yeah and in the meantime I put all my studs on the block to see what I can get offered.
First offer is…
I give everyone (Kupp, Ekeler, cooper, Montgomery, Goedert, jones and Stafford)
I get D Watson, 25 1st and 24 3rd

This is why I said I can’t trade for youth or picks in this league. They’re wayyyyy overvalued and annoying
12tm SF/TEP 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
**23 Champ**
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield, B Zappe
RB: Ekeler, Pollard, Mostert, Warren, A Jones, Mattison, Dillon, D Cook, Gray
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Dortch, Hardman
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, I Smith, Ruckert, Hendershot, Washington
3, 4

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
1st rd exit
QB: Jackson, Watson, Howell
RB: Breece, Bijan, Mostert, R Johnson, Demercado, D Foreman, Gray, D Johnson
WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, D Bell, Bateman, N Brown, Phillips, Gage, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson, Granson

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
FULL REBUILD
QB: Richardson, Ridder, Lance
RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
WR: G Davis, Hollywood, M Wilson, WanDale, Pierce, R Moore, Bell, Marshall
TE: Freiermuth, Kraft, Knox, Ruckert, Schoonmaker, Strange
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Re: Lost Cousins, Stafford and D Jones (SF/TEP)

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:28 am

brutuswins wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:25 am
Gator Sens wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:21 am As Bloom mentioned, Jones should be back this week and you can let it play out and see how your team looks in the coming weeks and re-evaluate from there. If the wheels come off again, start shopping your older assets.
Yeah and in the meantime I put all my studs on the block to see what I can get offered.
First offer is…
I give everyone (Kupp, Ekeler, cooper, Montgomery, Goedert, jones and Stafford)
I get D Watson, 25 1st and 24 3rd

This is why I said I can’t trade for youth or picks in this league. They’re wayyyyy overvalued and annoying
Seriously...ridiculous offer.

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Re: Lost Cousins, Stafford and D Jones (SF/TEP)

Postby Last Place » Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:34 am

Gator Sens wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:28 am
brutuswins wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:25 am
Gator Sens wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:21 am As Bloom mentioned, Jones should be back this week and you can let it play out and see how your team looks in the coming weeks and re-evaluate from there. If the wheels come off again, start shopping your older assets.
Yeah and in the meantime I put all my studs on the block to see what I can get offered.
First offer is…
I give everyone (Kupp, Ekeler, cooper, Montgomery, Goedert, jones and Stafford)
I get D Watson, 25 1st and 24 3rd

This is why I said I can’t trade for youth or picks in this league. They’re wayyyyy overvalued and annoying
Seriously...ridiculous offer.
Given your roster, lack of draft capital, and people who think that's a reasonable offer. I think id just quit the league.
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RB: Etienne, Hall, Gibbs, K. Miller, D. Singletary, Spiller, Kelly
WR: G. Wilson, Metcalf, Downs, Toney.
TE: Kincaid, Pitts

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Re: Lost Cousins, Stafford and D Jones (SF/TEP)

Postby WOATjohn » Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:21 am

Last Place wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:34 am
Gator Sens wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:28 am
brutuswins wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:25 am

Yeah and in the meantime I put all my studs on the block to see what I can get offered.
First offer is…
I give everyone (Kupp, Ekeler, cooper, Montgomery, Goedert, jones and Stafford)
I get D Watson, 25 1st and 24 3rd

This is why I said I can’t trade for youth or picks in this league. They’re wayyyyy overvalued and annoying
Seriously...ridiculous offer.
Given your roster, lack of draft capital, and people who think that's a reasonable offer. I think id just quit the league.
I’m not a quitter but thanks
12tm SF/TEP 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
**23 Champ**
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield, B Zappe
RB: Ekeler, Pollard, Mostert, Warren, A Jones, Mattison, Dillon, D Cook, Gray
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Dortch, Hardman
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, I Smith, Ruckert, Hendershot, Washington
3, 4

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
1st rd exit
QB: Jackson, Watson, Howell
RB: Breece, Bijan, Mostert, R Johnson, Demercado, D Foreman, Gray, D Johnson
WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, D Bell, Bateman, N Brown, Phillips, Gage, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson, Granson

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
FULL REBUILD
QB: Richardson, Ridder, Lance
RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
WR: G Davis, Hollywood, M Wilson, WanDale, Pierce, R Moore, Bell, Marshall
TE: Freiermuth, Kraft, Knox, Ruckert, Schoonmaker, Strange
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