Diontae Johnson or Jameson Williams
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Diontae Johnson or Jameson Williams
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What do you think of this analysis from one of the sites I frequent?..
“Jameson Williams combines elite athleticism with prototypical size and was on my sleeper list this summer. He showed a glimpse of his talent with an incredible touchdown catch vs Tampa Bay. Unfortunately, the windy conditions last week in Baltimore were not ideal for the vertical passing game. However, the Lions’ favorable schedule, as well as an increased workload, gives me grounds for optimism. WHO WOULD YOU GIVE UP FOR JAMESON WILLIAMS? Jahan Dotson, Diontae Johnson, Terry McLaurin, DeAndre Hopkins, or Terry McLaurin. Ringo’s comps- Jameson Williams reminds me of a poor man’s Randy Moss. He’s that explosive and a potential league winner if given a chance imo.”
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What do you think of this analysis from one of the sites I frequent?..
“Jameson Williams combines elite athleticism with prototypical size and was on my sleeper list this summer. He showed a glimpse of his talent with an incredible touchdown catch vs Tampa Bay. Unfortunately, the windy conditions last week in Baltimore were not ideal for the vertical passing game. However, the Lions’ favorable schedule, as well as an increased workload, gives me grounds for optimism. WHO WOULD YOU GIVE UP FOR JAMESON WILLIAMS? Jahan Dotson, Diontae Johnson, Terry McLaurin, DeAndre Hopkins, or Terry McLaurin. Ringo’s comps- Jameson Williams reminds me of a poor man’s Randy Moss. He’s that explosive and a potential league winner if given a chance imo.”
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Bling Dyna$ty:
10 Owners, Single QB, Non-PPR, TDs = 6
16 Player Roster, 2 Year Taxi Squad
10 Keepers, 2 Round Rookie Draft, 6 Round Supplemental Auction
$100 Combined Auction/FAAB Dollar Base
Lineup: QB, 2xRB, 2xWR, TE, RWT(FLEX), DEF, K
QB: P. Mahomes, B. Mayfield
RB: C. McCaffrey, D. Montgomery, R. Mostert, Jeff Wilson Jr., R. Dowdle, D'Ernest Johnson
WR: D. Moore, P. Nacua, S. Diggs, K. Allen
TE: T. Kelce, I. Likely
K: B. Aubrey
DEF: Browns
IR: N/A
Taxi: N/A
2024 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2024 Auction/FAAB: $100
2025 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2025 Auction/FAAB: $100
2026 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 1 x 1st & 1 x 2nd
2026 Auction/FAAB: $100
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10 Owners, Single QB, Non-PPR, TDs = 6
16 Player Roster, 2 Year Taxi Squad
10 Keepers, 2 Round Rookie Draft, 6 Round Supplemental Auction
$100 Combined Auction/FAAB Dollar Base
Lineup: QB, 2xRB, 2xWR, TE, RWT(FLEX), DEF, K
QB: P. Mahomes, B. Mayfield
RB: C. McCaffrey, D. Montgomery, R. Mostert, Jeff Wilson Jr., R. Dowdle, D'Ernest Johnson
WR: D. Moore, P. Nacua, S. Diggs, K. Allen
TE: T. Kelce, I. Likely
K: B. Aubrey
DEF: Browns
IR: N/A
Taxi: N/A
2024 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2024 Auction/FAAB: $100
2025 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2025 Auction/FAAB: $100
2026 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 1 x 1st & 1 x 2nd
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Re: Diontae Johnson or Jameson Williams
Williams has the hope but it is fading very quickly. I get he has all the tools, but he has shown zero so far in the NFL. I don't like Johnson at all as an asset moving forward, but he is a safer flex play than Williams if you had to start either.
Re: Diontae Johnson or Jameson Williams
You know this answer, find a new site. And I like Jameson
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts
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Re: Diontae Johnson or Jameson Williams
I think my hope is that I get to start CMC, Henry, Monty, KA, and Puka as my baseline RB/WR/Flex set. I truly believe (admitting I’m a Steelers homer) that DJ is poised to see an increase in TDs due to regression from last year, but for the most part I expect him to be a steady high floor, dependable player without any expectations of him being a league winner… he’s just 8-10 points a week kind of guy. JW is the boom or bust guy that I think when he booms it will blow DJ’s points out of the water. So maybe the better question is, would I rather have a consistent solid slightly above average depth piece or a risky dart throw with high ceiling potential depth piece?Gator Sens wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:13 am Williams has the hope but it is fading very quickly. I get he has all the tools, but he has shown zero so far in the NFL. I don't like Johnson at all as an asset moving forward, but he is a safer flex play than Williams if you had to start either.
Bling Dyna$ty:
10 Owners, Single QB, Non-PPR, TDs = 6
16 Player Roster, 2 Year Taxi Squad
10 Keepers, 2 Round Rookie Draft, 6 Round Supplemental Auction
$100 Combined Auction/FAAB Dollar Base
Lineup: QB, 2xRB, 2xWR, TE, RWT(FLEX), DEF, K
QB: P. Mahomes, B. Mayfield
RB: C. McCaffrey, D. Montgomery, R. Mostert, Jeff Wilson Jr., R. Dowdle, D'Ernest Johnson
WR: D. Moore, P. Nacua, S. Diggs, K. Allen
TE: T. Kelce, I. Likely
K: B. Aubrey
DEF: Browns
IR: N/A
Taxi: N/A
2024 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2024 Auction/FAAB: $100
2025 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2025 Auction/FAAB: $100
2026 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 1 x 1st & 1 x 2nd
2026 Auction/FAAB: $100
…
10 Owners, Single QB, Non-PPR, TDs = 6
16 Player Roster, 2 Year Taxi Squad
10 Keepers, 2 Round Rookie Draft, 6 Round Supplemental Auction
$100 Combined Auction/FAAB Dollar Base
Lineup: QB, 2xRB, 2xWR, TE, RWT(FLEX), DEF, K
QB: P. Mahomes, B. Mayfield
RB: C. McCaffrey, D. Montgomery, R. Mostert, Jeff Wilson Jr., R. Dowdle, D'Ernest Johnson
WR: D. Moore, P. Nacua, S. Diggs, K. Allen
TE: T. Kelce, I. Likely
K: B. Aubrey
DEF: Browns
IR: N/A
Taxi: N/A
2024 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2024 Auction/FAAB: $100
2025 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2025 Auction/FAAB: $100
2026 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 1 x 1st & 1 x 2nd
2026 Auction/FAAB: $100
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Re: Diontae Johnson or Jameson Williams
lol, it’s “FantasyPros” and I like them as a side piece to this site which is obviously better and it was just one contributor in an opinion article. I always come here to get better insight.
That said, I think my hope is that I get to start CMC, Henry, Monty, KA, and Puka as my baseline RB/WR/Flex set. I truly believe (admitting I’m a Steelers homer) that DJ is poised to see an increase in TDs due to regression from last year, but for the most part I expect him to be a steady high floor, dependable player without any expectations of him being a league winner… he’s just 8-10 points a week kind of guy. JW is the boom or bust guy that I think when he booms it will blow DJ’s points out of the water.
So maybe the better question is, would I rather have a consistent solid slightly above average depth piece or a risky dart throw with high ceiling potential depth piece?
Bling Dyna$ty:
10 Owners, Single QB, Non-PPR, TDs = 6
16 Player Roster, 2 Year Taxi Squad
10 Keepers, 2 Round Rookie Draft, 6 Round Supplemental Auction
$100 Combined Auction/FAAB Dollar Base
Lineup: QB, 2xRB, 2xWR, TE, RWT(FLEX), DEF, K
QB: P. Mahomes, B. Mayfield
RB: C. McCaffrey, D. Montgomery, R. Mostert, Jeff Wilson Jr., R. Dowdle, D'Ernest Johnson
WR: D. Moore, P. Nacua, S. Diggs, K. Allen
TE: T. Kelce, I. Likely
K: B. Aubrey
DEF: Browns
IR: N/A
Taxi: N/A
2024 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2024 Auction/FAAB: $100
2025 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2025 Auction/FAAB: $100
2026 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 1 x 1st & 1 x 2nd
2026 Auction/FAAB: $100
…
10 Owners, Single QB, Non-PPR, TDs = 6
16 Player Roster, 2 Year Taxi Squad
10 Keepers, 2 Round Rookie Draft, 6 Round Supplemental Auction
$100 Combined Auction/FAAB Dollar Base
Lineup: QB, 2xRB, 2xWR, TE, RWT(FLEX), DEF, K
QB: P. Mahomes, B. Mayfield
RB: C. McCaffrey, D. Montgomery, R. Mostert, Jeff Wilson Jr., R. Dowdle, D'Ernest Johnson
WR: D. Moore, P. Nacua, S. Diggs, K. Allen
TE: T. Kelce, I. Likely
K: B. Aubrey
DEF: Browns
IR: N/A
Taxi: N/A
2024 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2024 Auction/FAAB: $100
2025 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2025 Auction/FAAB: $100
2026 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 1 x 1st & 1 x 2nd
2026 Auction/FAAB: $100
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Re: Diontae Johnson or Jameson Williams
Jameson is an elite WR with bad hands.
Make of that what you will, but I think he has way too many drops to ever become a legit WR.
Perhaps he can be trained to focus better, but usually WR's with bad hands don't get much better.
Make of that what you will, but I think he has way too many drops to ever become a legit WR.
Perhaps he can be trained to focus better, but usually WR's with bad hands don't get much better.
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Re: Diontae Johnson or Jameson Williams
That’s ironic because I’m fairly certain DJ led the league in drops last year or the year before, right?MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:23 pm Jameson is an elite WR with bad hands.
Make of that what you will, but I think he has way too many drops to ever become a legit WR.
Perhaps he can be trained to focus better, but usually WR's with bad hands don't get much better.
Bling Dyna$ty:
10 Owners, Single QB, Non-PPR, TDs = 6
16 Player Roster, 2 Year Taxi Squad
10 Keepers, 2 Round Rookie Draft, 6 Round Supplemental Auction
$100 Combined Auction/FAAB Dollar Base
Lineup: QB, 2xRB, 2xWR, TE, RWT(FLEX), DEF, K
QB: P. Mahomes, B. Mayfield
RB: C. McCaffrey, D. Montgomery, R. Mostert, Jeff Wilson Jr., R. Dowdle, D'Ernest Johnson
WR: D. Moore, P. Nacua, S. Diggs, K. Allen
TE: T. Kelce, I. Likely
K: B. Aubrey
DEF: Browns
IR: N/A
Taxi: N/A
2024 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2024 Auction/FAAB: $100
2025 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2025 Auction/FAAB: $100
2026 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 1 x 1st & 1 x 2nd
2026 Auction/FAAB: $100
…
10 Owners, Single QB, Non-PPR, TDs = 6
16 Player Roster, 2 Year Taxi Squad
10 Keepers, 2 Round Rookie Draft, 6 Round Supplemental Auction
$100 Combined Auction/FAAB Dollar Base
Lineup: QB, 2xRB, 2xWR, TE, RWT(FLEX), DEF, K
QB: P. Mahomes, B. Mayfield
RB: C. McCaffrey, D. Montgomery, R. Mostert, Jeff Wilson Jr., R. Dowdle, D'Ernest Johnson
WR: D. Moore, P. Nacua, S. Diggs, K. Allen
TE: T. Kelce, I. Likely
K: B. Aubrey
DEF: Browns
IR: N/A
Taxi: N/A
2024 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2024 Auction/FAAB: $100
2025 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2025 Auction/FAAB: $100
2026 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 1 x 1st & 1 x 2nd
2026 Auction/FAAB: $100
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Re: Diontae Johnson or Jameson Williams
Diontae already has a WR1 season under his belt, is entering the age apex for WRs and had 3 straight seasons of being an absolute target magnet.jobiegermano wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:53 amlol, it’s “FantasyPros” and I like them as a side piece to this site which is obviously better and it was just one contributor in an opinion article. I always come here to get better insight.
That said, I think my hope is that I get to start CMC, Henry, Monty, KA, and Puka as my baseline RB/WR/Flex set. I truly believe (admitting I’m a Steelers homer) that DJ is poised to see an increase in TDs due to regression from last year, but for the most part I expect him to be a steady high floor, dependable player without any expectations of him being a league winner… he’s just 8-10 points a week kind of guy. JW is the boom or bust guy that I think when he booms it will blow DJ’s points out of the water.
So maybe the better question is, would I rather have a consistent solid slightly above average depth piece or a risky dart throw with high ceiling potential depth piece?
Above average flex play is his floor not his ceiling.
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Re: Diontae Johnson or Jameson Williams
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Re: Diontae Johnson or Jameson Williams
Yes, DJ led the NFL in drops in 2021, but I don't think DJ was ever 21 targets 5 catches bad.jobiegermano wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:00 pmThat’s ironic because I’m fairly certain DJ led the league in drops last year or the year before, right?MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:23 pm Jameson is an elite WR with bad hands.
Make of that what you will, but I think he has way too many drops to ever become a legit WR.
Perhaps he can be trained to focus better, but usually WR's with bad hands don't get much better.
That is Jameson through 9 games. 24% catch percentage versus targets for Jameson career.
In 2021, DJ caught 107 of 189 targets, a 63% catch percentage.
Re: Diontae Johnson or Jameson Williams
On the whole I'd prefer to own DJ.
However if neither of these guys is going to start for you (which is entirely possible) I can see wanting JAMO for the upside potential. DJ is a low end WR2 which we need on FF teams. JAMO could be more than that - which we "want" on FF teams.
Overall I like the higher floor of DJ.
However if neither of these guys is going to start for you (which is entirely possible) I can see wanting JAMO for the upside potential. DJ is a low end WR2 which we need on FF teams. JAMO could be more than that - which we "want" on FF teams.
Overall I like the higher floor of DJ.
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Re: Diontae Johnson or Jameson Williams
The ceiling is the roof and the floor is the basement
Keep Diontae
Keep Diontae
Team 1:
12-team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Herbert, Kyler, Baker, Jimmy G, Mariota, DTR
RB: Taylor, Saquon, Javonte, Conner, C.Evans, TDP
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Olave, Diggs, Diontae, Hollywood, MT, Shaheed
TE: Engram, Woods, Kraft
'24 picks: 1.08, 3.05
Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Russ
RB: Breece, JT, Swift, Javonte, Mostert, Zamir
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Nico, Kupp, Hollywood, Kirk, MT
TE: Pitts, Njoku, Woods
'24 picks: 4.01
Team 3:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Hurts, Dak, Stafford, Z.Wilson, DTR
RB: Saquon, Swift, Achane, Kamara, Ford
WR: Jefferson, AJB, ARSB, Nico, Diontae, OBJ
TE: Goedert, Njoku, Fant, Woods
'24 picks: 4.08, 4.12, 5.12
12-team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Herbert, Kyler, Baker, Jimmy G, Mariota, DTR
RB: Taylor, Saquon, Javonte, Conner, C.Evans, TDP
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Olave, Diggs, Diontae, Hollywood, MT, Shaheed
TE: Engram, Woods, Kraft
'24 picks: 1.08, 3.05
Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Russ
RB: Breece, JT, Swift, Javonte, Mostert, Zamir
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Nico, Kupp, Hollywood, Kirk, MT
TE: Pitts, Njoku, Woods
'24 picks: 4.01
Team 3:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Hurts, Dak, Stafford, Z.Wilson, DTR
RB: Saquon, Swift, Achane, Kamara, Ford
WR: Jefferson, AJB, ARSB, Nico, Diontae, OBJ
TE: Goedert, Njoku, Fant, Woods
'24 picks: 4.08, 4.12, 5.12
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Re: Diontae Johnson or Jameson Williams
Jamo by a ton for me. dionte is a dying asset and i think jamo has time, investment, and skill on his side to become a legit big time weapon. I live in pittsburgh and dionte is someone i have sold or want to sell everywhere.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
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Re: Diontae Johnson or Jameson Williams
Trying to win you have to go Diontae. Otherwise I’d swing for the fences though I’m like 80% Jamo busts and I’m wrong here.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
Re: Diontae Johnson or Jameson Williams
I don’t see the appeal for Jameson. Even if he becomes a good NFL WR (which I’m not convinced, maybe he will maybe he won’t). What is his fantasy upside? ARSB will always be the target monster. LaPorta has established himself. I don’t see Jameson being more than 2-3 in the pecking order. And that’s ignoring Gibbs. I guess with his potential usage, IF he becomes good, he will certainly have some boom weeks…but on a year-to-year basis it is hard to see him as more than a WR3 personally. And that’s assuming everything goes right for him.
Give me Diontae.
Give me Diontae.
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