Jeudy and a 24 1st for Diggs?

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Jeudy + 24 mid 1st or Diggs?

Jeudy + 2024 mid 1st
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Jeudy and a 24 1st for Diggs?

Postby Gazzerk » Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:33 am

I am competing and I need a stronger WR so I am looking to tier up. I have Adams available for a 2024 1st and both that I have look to be mid while mine would likely be later if I add a good WR. I had asked about Adams here and there were mixed reviews. I got cold feet on the deal with his QB situation and stayed away for now. I just found out that I could have a shot at Diggs but it would take Jeudy and one of my 2024 1sts. I know he is a monster win now piece. Is that a fair price or paying too much? I know the answer is going to heavily depend on how each person feels about Jeudy but I am still very confident in him. What are the thoughts here?

Note: Other owner said he may want McLaurin over Jeudy with the 1st to get it done. Does that change your thought at all?
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Re: Jeudy and a 24 1st for Diggs?

Postby Prison_Mike » Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:45 am

With those starrting requirements I think I'd pay that fairly easily

Jeudy would need to see a huge change to consistently start for you, at least until Keenan and Coop age out. I think Jerry is who he is at this point, I don't see a massive breakout coming

If it's gotta be McLaurin, I'd be a bit more hesitant

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Re: Jeudy and a 24 1st for Diggs?

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:48 am

Diggs pretty easily as an out and out contender.

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Re: Jeudy and a 24 1st for Diggs?

Postby Gazzerk » Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:49 am

Gator Sens wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:48 am Diggs pretty easily as an out and out contender.
Even if it Terry + 1st? Doesn’t make you think twice?
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Re: Jeudy and a 24 1st for Diggs?

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:54 am

Gazzerk wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:49 am
Gator Sens wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:48 am Diggs pretty easily as an out and out contender.
Even if it Terry + 1st? Doesn’t make you think twice?
Diggs over McLaurin and a 1st for me also.

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Re: Jeudy and a 24 1st for Diggs?

Postby Gazzerk » Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:19 am

Gator Sens wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:54 am
Gazzerk wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:49 am
Gator Sens wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:48 am Diggs pretty easily as an out and out contender.
Even if it Terry + 1st? Doesn’t make you think twice?
Diggs over McLaurin and a 1st for me also.
He keeps moving the goal posts. He might want Cooper and a 1st now. I actually think I like that better. Thoughts?
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Re: Jeudy and a 24 1st for Diggs?

Postby Prison_Mike » Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:26 am

Gazzerk wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:19 am
Gator Sens wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:54 am
Gazzerk wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:49 am

Even if it Terry + 1st? Doesn’t make you think twice?
Diggs over McLaurin and a 1st for me also.
He keeps moving the goal posts. He might want Cooper and a 1st now. I actually think I like that better. Thoughts?
Sure, but I’d tell him that’s the final offer lol

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Re: Jeudy and a 24 1st for Diggs?

Postby jcc6fd » Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:38 am

Prison_Mike wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:26 am
Gazzerk wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:19 am
Gator Sens wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:54 am

Diggs over McLaurin and a 1st for me also.
He keeps moving the goal posts. He might want Cooper and a 1st now. I actually think I like that better. Thoughts?
Sure, but I’d tell him that’s the final offer lol
Your trade partner is realizing he's undervaluing Diggs. All of these are below market value for him. Agree with Mike and would suggest you trying to put an end to the back and forth so it actually gets done, but this is an easy accept.
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Re: Jeudy and a 24 1st for Diggs?

Postby Anteaters » Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:41 am

Gazzerk wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:33 amNote: Other owner said he may want McLaurin over Jeudy with the 1st to get it done. Does that change your thought at all?
For an all-in team, I'd eagerly trade McLaurin+Jeudy+Late1st to get Diggs.

In a league that only allows a max of 3 starting WRs (a max of 42 in any given week) Jeudy has no place in the starting lineup for a true contender. TMc should be used sparingly in a true contender's starting lineup. Diggs is an automatic start.

Instead of Cooper+1st, I'd much rather "overwhelm" him with an offer of TMc+Jeudy+Late1st. That a great 2quarters+50cent piece for a dollar trade for your team.

Go get Diggs.
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Re: Jeudy and a 24 1st for Diggs?

Postby Gazzerk » Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:18 am

Anteaters wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:41 am
Gazzerk wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:33 amNote: Other owner said he may want McLaurin over Jeudy with the 1st to get it done. Does that change your thought at all?
For an all-in team, I'd eagerly trade McLaurin+Jeudy+Late1st to get Diggs.

In a league that only allows a max of 3 starting WRs (a max of 42 in any given week) Jeudy has no place in the starting lineup for a true contender. TMc should be used sparingly in a true contender's starting lineup. Diggs is an automatic start.

Instead of Cooper+1st, I'd much rather "overwhelm" him with an offer of TMc+Jeudy+Late1st. That a great 2quarters+50cent piece for a dollar trade for your team.

Go get Diggs.
Very fair points. That feels like a lot to me but I’m probably overvaluing both players and overreacting to Diggs age. Diggs is my top target to add for my push and he is likely the best piece that is even available. He is almost in on Jeudy and a 1st so I’ll see if that gets done. Maybe I’ll add if it’s just not getting it done.

Also just wanted to add that there’s no real given that these picks are late. They are more likely mid unless this move gets me going. I have a contending roster but I’ve had terrible schedule luck and sit at 2-5. My schedule gets a lot lighter going forward though. The other pick I have is likely mid with a chance to be on the early side.
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Re: Jeudy and a 24 1st for Diggs?

Postby wickerkat1212 » Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:35 am

Diggs. Go get him. I did the same on a contender and now my starting five WRs are Jefferson, Hill, KAllen, Diggs, and Adams. I gave up Pitts 25 1st (late) for Adams (I'm out on Pitts) and Herbert with two 2nds for Diggs (steal IMO).
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QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

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QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

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QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Jeudy and a 24 1st for Diggs?

Postby Anteaters » Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:37 am

Gazzerk wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:18 amAlso just wanted to add that there’s no real given that these picks are late. They are more likely mid unless this move gets me going. I have a contending roster but I’ve had terrible schedule luck and sit at 2-5. My schedule gets a lot lighter going forward though. The other pick I have is likely mid with a chance to be on the early side.
That's a very important factor.

Looking at your roster, I'm concerned your two RBs for this 2023 push are Bijan+Swift, with no quality backup. It would be a bad idea of over-inflate your estimation of your playoffs chances and lose a mid (or, with a 2-5 record) potentially early pick) on an old WR. I'm not concerned about losing JMc+Jeudy because even on an overoptimistic contender I'd rather have Diggs than two pieces that won't help you win (really win big) in the future. But losing 1.04 would be a terrible loss if your team flounders and misses the playoffs.

Time to look in the mirror and ask yourself if you really think you have a shot. If you conclude you do and estimate a later 1st, I'd make the trade. If you think you have a good chance at ending up with 1.04-1.06, I'd hold.
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Re: Jeudy and a 24 1st for Diggs?

Postby jobiegermano » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:14 am

I like it, I’d like it better if you had one more stud RB, have you asked the Theilen owner what his price is?
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Re: Jeudy and a 24 1st for Diggs?

Postby Gazzerk » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:33 am

Anteaters wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:37 am
Gazzerk wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:18 amAlso just wanted to add that there’s no real given that these picks are late. They are more likely mid unless this move gets me going. I have a contending roster but I’ve had terrible schedule luck and sit at 2-5. My schedule gets a lot lighter going forward though. The other pick I have is likely mid with a chance to be on the early side.
That's a very important factor.

Looking at your roster, I'm concerned your two RBs for this 2023 push are Bijan+Swift, with no quality backup. It would be a bad idea of over-inflate your estimation of your playoffs chances and lose a mid (or, with a 2-5 record) potentially early pick) on an old WR. I'm not concerned about losing JMc+Jeudy because even on an overoptimistic contender I'd rather have Diggs than two pieces that won't help you win (really win big) in the future. But losing 1.04 would be a terrible loss if your team flounders and misses the playoffs.

Time to look in the mirror and ask yourself if you really think you have a shot. If you conclude you do and estimate a later 1st, I'd make the trade. If you think you have a good chance at ending up with 1.04-1.06, I'd hold.
Thanks for feedback. I do agree. Based on my lineup and the other teams in my league, I have a very good chance of making playoffs and also winning it all. I’ve lost multiple weeks by less than 10 points and 2 matchups were less than a point. I have the 3rd most points for in the league. The team that would be trading me Diggs is one of only 3 strong contenders. It doesn’t even make sense that he is moving Diggs but he seems to think adding a first for the drop from Diggs to Terry is worth it. He just point blank said he wants Terry+ the other 2024 1st I have and a 2nd which would be 2025 or 2026. The 1st is from a team that has a bottom 3 roster but is 4-3 and in 5th place. He will probably level out and land somewhere in the middle. Would you send Terry, a mid 2024 1st and a 2nd a year or 2 out for Diggs knowing all this? It feels like the right move for me. Diggs had to have a few years left I would think.
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Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
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WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, JSN, J. Jeudy, Jameson Williams, Hutchinson
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Re: Jeudy and a 24 1st for Diggs?

Postby Gazzerk » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:35 am

jobiegermano wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:14 am I like it, I’d like it better if you had one more stud RB, have you asked the Theilen owner what his price is?
I have. He is a contender and won’t sell for a 2nd but knows he can’t get a 1st so he is holding.
Team:14 Team Dynasty 1/2 PPR Unlimited Keepers 2IR
Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
QB - Mahomes
RB - Bijan, Swift, Najee, Dobbins, Gibson, Chase Brown, Abanikanda, Sean Tucker, Zach Evans
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, JSN, J. Jeudy, Jameson Williams, Hutchinson
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