Week 6 Discussion

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Re: Week 6 Discussion

Postby BabyChark23 » Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:08 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:37 am
Anteaters wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:29 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:56 pm

Correct. Hoyer would likely start.
Last time Jimmy missed a game, AOC was the starter and played well enough. Don't overthink this.
I'm not. I've been a Raiders fan my whole life. O'Connell didn't play well enough. Not for a team trying to win a football game. For a guy in his first NFL start, sure. Hoyer is the current QB2 on their depth chart. They gave AOC a shot, they obviously didn't like what they saw that much. They just won a very emotional game with Hoyer playing fairly well. They are 3-3, and face a road game on the East Coast. I fully expect McDaniels to start Hoyer. He has the experience in the system, and is 2nd on the depth chart. There isn't really a good argument for AOC being the starter, unless Josh just wants to see him play more, but he's coaching for his job this year, I don't see him going down with a turnover prone rookie. If Hoyer isn't playing well, and they are losing, I could see him going to AOC as a spark, without as much pressure as being the starter, next week. It is Josh though, so who knows.
Disclaimer: not debating just a genuine question on part of your comments.

Why does AOC get a turnover prone label? In his college career, he had a 2.17 TD/int ratio. He had no turnovers in the preseason. In the game two weeks ago, he had two fumbles and one interception. Fumbles are not good obviously, but in my mind, they are a little more forgivable than interceptions for a QB because they are typically the result of the O-line getting overrun rather than bad decision making. I suppose there is an argument to be made that he should have seen that and thrown it away. I’m just struggling to see the turnover prone label fitting based on what happened in that one game, especially since it doesn’t fit the rest of what we’ve seen of him outside that game.

Post disclaimer: read this after the fact, and I guess I am debating a little bit. :lol:

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Re: Week 6 Discussion

Postby Bronco Billy » Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:13 am

Jigga94 wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:26 am
JSN finally hits 70%,
Looks like SEA is going to just force JSN onto the field, because Bobo has been more productive in an apples-to-apples comparison and looks like a better fit in the O with his blocking as well. That’s unlike Carroll.

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Re: Week 6 Discussion

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:27 am

Bronco Billy wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:13 am
Jigga94 wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:26 am
JSN finally hits 70%,
Looks like SEA is going to just force JSN onto the field, because Bobo has been more productive in an apples-to-apples comparison and looks like a better fit in the O with his blocking as well. That’s unlike Carroll.
Bobo still being used in 11 inside the 20's quite a bit. His usage as a blocker in the RZ will not go away. Helped create the hole needed for that Walker TD run.
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Re: Week 6 Discussion

Postby Anteaters » Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:54 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:37 am
Anteaters wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:29 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:56 pm

Correct. Hoyer would likely start.
Last time Jimmy missed a game, AOC was the starter and played well enough. Don't overthink this.
I'm not. I've been a Raiders fan my whole life. O'Connell didn't play well enough. Not for a team trying to win a football game. For a guy in his first NFL start, sure. Hoyer is the current QB2 on their depth chart. They gave AOC a shot, they obviously didn't like what they saw that much. They just won a very emotional game with Hoyer playing fairly well. They are 3-3, and face a road game on the East Coast. I fully expect McDaniels to start Hoyer. He has the experience in the system, and is 2nd on the depth chart. There isn't really a good argument for AOC being the starter, unless Josh just wants to see him play more, but he's coaching for his job this year, I don't see him going down with a turnover prone rookie. If Hoyer isn't playing well, and they are losing, I could see him going to AOC as a spark, without as much pressure as being the starter, next week. It is Josh though, so who knows.
I'm no diehard Raiders fan so I'll take your word for it that Raider Nation would rather see a washed up never-was QB over an intriguing rookie with a chance to become something.

Also maybe because I'm on the outside looking in, I don't think anyone in the Raiders organization thinks the team has the slightest chance of being a playoff team this season. McDaniels might be coaching for his job this season, but it won't be based on making the playoffs. One way I see McDaniels has of keeping his job is to prove AOC can be a decent NFL QB. Jimmy is never going to be reliable. Hoyer is nobody. The Raiders will win just enough games to not be able to get a decent rookie QB. The 2024 starter is either AOC or on another NFL team at this point. McDaniels better scope out AOC in real game action so he has a way to make a smart decision.

Although, McDaniels isn't known for making smart decision when it comes to personnel decisions.
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Re: Week 6 Discussion

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:59 am

Anteaters wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:54 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:37 am
Anteaters wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:29 am
Last time Jimmy missed a game, AOC was the starter and played well enough. Don't overthink this.
I'm not. I've been a Raiders fan my whole life. O'Connell didn't play well enough. Not for a team trying to win a football game. For a guy in his first NFL start, sure. Hoyer is the current QB2 on their depth chart. They gave AOC a shot, they obviously didn't like what they saw that much. They just won a very emotional game with Hoyer playing fairly well. They are 3-3, and face a road game on the East Coast. I fully expect McDaniels to start Hoyer. He has the experience in the system, and is 2nd on the depth chart. There isn't really a good argument for AOC being the starter, unless Josh just wants to see him play more, but he's coaching for his job this year, I don't see him going down with a turnover prone rookie. If Hoyer isn't playing well, and they are losing, I could see him going to AOC as a spark, without as much pressure as being the starter, next week. It is Josh though, so who knows.
I'm no diehard Raiders fan so I'll take your word for it that Raider Nation would rather see a washed up never-was QB over an intriguing rookie with a chance to become something.

Also maybe because I'm on the outside looking in, I don't think anyone in the Raiders organization thinks the team has the slightest chance of being a playoff team this season. McDaniels might be coaching for his job this season, but it won't be based on making the playoffs. One way I see McDaniels has of keeping his job is to prove AOC can be a decent NFL QB. Jimmy is never going to be reliable. Hoyer is nobody. The Raiders will win just enough games to not be able to get a decent rookie QB. The 2024 starter is either AOC or on another NFL team at this point. McDaniels better scope out AOC.
Hoyer IS a nobody, but I don't think AOC is an NFL starter, either. Seems Jimmy G isn't hurt long term, so I think it's all down to who he feels more comfortable with beating the Bears, and the Bears with Bagent as the likely starter. I think he will go with Hoyer, due to experience, for a short term outlook. A win puts them at 4-3, and McDaniels is on the hot seat. I could be wrong, he hasn't said for sure who it would be, just thinking due to the way Hoyer played, not turning it over, and how the vets reacted to that win, he'd likely stick with the same setup next week. I am OK with being wrong.
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Re: Week 6 Discussion

Postby Jigga94 » Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:49 am

BabyChark23 wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:36 am
Jigga94 wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:26 am Rookie Snap Share % Week 1-6
*left early/injury

RB
Bijan - 63, 72, 81, 76, 61, 77
Achane - 0, 10, 41, 60, 48, 0*
Spears - 54, 37, 56, 53, 52, 56
Gibbs - 27, 48, 60, 37, 0*, 0*
Charb - 24, 26, 43, 24, bye, 24
Kendre - 0, 0, 34, 8, 36, 22
Roschon - 39, 42, 45, 22, 9*, 0*
McLaughlin- 8, 5, 21, 33, 33, 40
Demercado- 5, 12, 18, 35, 77, 43
Bigsby - 21, 19, 12, 12, 15, 27
Deuce- 14, 15, 0, 31, 10, mnf
Tucker - 15, 24, 9, 0, bye, 0


WR
Puka - 78, 86, 96, 95, 100, 96
Mingo - 87, 98, 33*, 0*, 86, 93
Flowers- 84, 77, 93, 98, 99, 89
Wilson - 90, 43, 67, 70, 75, 88
Addison- 56, 69, 71, 58, 75, 86
Downs - 79, 75, 80, 73, 71, 78
Hyatt - 36, 21, 32, 60, 46, 73
JSN - 59, 56, 44, 53, bye, 72
Dell - 48, 79, 61, 70, 36*, 0*
Reed - 53, 56, 66, 67, 50, bye
Palmer- 34, 49, 72, 75, bye, 66
QJ - 27, 15, 24, 51, bye, mnf
Rice - 31, 18, 51, 46, 30, 49
Mims - 27, 24, 24, 35, 32, 23
Wicks - 62, 50, 66, 58, 22, bye
Iosivas - 2, 3, 10, 19, 32, 15
Douglas- 41, 8, 24, 33, 13, 0
Boutte - 69, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0


TE
Laporta - 83, 82, 74, 80, 87, 83
Musgrave- 75, 88, 86, 25*, 69, bye
Mayer - 49, 40, 47, 51, 66, 81
Kincaid - 80, 60, 51, 52, 53, 0*
Schoonmaker- 28, 36, 23, 56, 41, mnf
Washington- 38, 48, 47, 42, 70, bye
Kraft - 22, 4, 13, 23, 40, bye

NYG: Hyatt creeping up. Slayton still getting starter snaps and Wandale is getting 60%+ since coming back from injury. Parris, Shepard, Hodgins pointing down.

JSN finally hits 70%, Mayer hits 80%

Still no love for Mims
Douglas needs an asterisk because he was ruled out due to injury.

Good to see the post-bye week usage increase for JSN. Buy low window is closing now. Hope to see a bump tonight for QJ.
Got it. I personally haven't paid much attention to the dumpster fire NE passing offense aside from wondering why they don't dump off to Rhamondre more

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Re: Week 6 Discussion

Postby BabyChark23 » Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:02 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:49 am
BabyChark23 wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:36 am
Jigga94 wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:26 am Rookie Snap Share % Week 1-6
*left early/injury

RB
Bijan - 63, 72, 81, 76, 61, 77
Achane - 0, 10, 41, 60, 48, 0*
Spears - 54, 37, 56, 53, 52, 56
Gibbs - 27, 48, 60, 37, 0*, 0*
Charb - 24, 26, 43, 24, bye, 24
Kendre - 0, 0, 34, 8, 36, 22
Roschon - 39, 42, 45, 22, 9*, 0*
McLaughlin- 8, 5, 21, 33, 33, 40
Demercado- 5, 12, 18, 35, 77, 43
Bigsby - 21, 19, 12, 12, 15, 27
Deuce- 14, 15, 0, 31, 10, mnf
Tucker - 15, 24, 9, 0, bye, 0


WR
Puka - 78, 86, 96, 95, 100, 96
Mingo - 87, 98, 33*, 0*, 86, 93
Flowers- 84, 77, 93, 98, 99, 89
Wilson - 90, 43, 67, 70, 75, 88
Addison- 56, 69, 71, 58, 75, 86
Downs - 79, 75, 80, 73, 71, 78
Hyatt - 36, 21, 32, 60, 46, 73
JSN - 59, 56, 44, 53, bye, 72
Dell - 48, 79, 61, 70, 36*, 0*
Reed - 53, 56, 66, 67, 50, bye
Palmer- 34, 49, 72, 75, bye, 66
QJ - 27, 15, 24, 51, bye, mnf
Rice - 31, 18, 51, 46, 30, 49
Mims - 27, 24, 24, 35, 32, 23
Wicks - 62, 50, 66, 58, 22, bye
Iosivas - 2, 3, 10, 19, 32, 15
Douglas- 41, 8, 24, 33, 13, 0
Boutte - 69, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0


TE
Laporta - 83, 82, 74, 80, 87, 83
Musgrave- 75, 88, 86, 25*, 69, bye
Mayer - 49, 40, 47, 51, 66, 81
Kincaid - 80, 60, 51, 52, 53, 0*
Schoonmaker- 28, 36, 23, 56, 41, mnf
Washington- 38, 48, 47, 42, 70, bye
Kraft - 22, 4, 13, 23, 40, bye

NYG: Hyatt creeping up. Slayton still getting starter snaps and Wandale is getting 60%+ since coming back from injury. Parris, Shepard, Hodgins pointing down.

JSN finally hits 70%, Mayer hits 80%

Still no love for Mims
Douglas needs an asterisk because he was ruled out due to injury.

Good to see the post-bye week usage increase for JSN. Buy low window is closing now. Hope to see a bump tonight for QJ.
Got it. I personally haven't paid much attention to the dumpster fire NE passing offense aside from wondering why they don't dump off to Rhamondre more
:lol: Yeah, it’s been pretty bad. I only noticed because he was one of my deep sleeper stashes this year.

Thanks for posting these snap counts.

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Re: Week 6 Discussion

Postby Jigga94 » Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:27 pm

Dobbs fell back to earth this weekend. Thought McBride looked encouraging though. He finally outsnapped Ertz as well

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Re: Week 6 Discussion

Postby wickerkat1212 » Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:47 pm

• 4-1 Dynasty #3 up 113 to 104. I have Lamb, he has Ekeler and Allen. Loss? Hopefully I still get some VPs.
• 5-0 Dynasty #4 up 158 to 95, I have Allen left. Big win. 6-0.
• 5-1 Ultimate Redraft up 165 to 138. I have Allen, he has four—Dak, Lamb, Palmer, Aubrey. I don't like it at all.
• 4-1 Superflex #1 up 147 to 108 he has Gallup. That's a win. 5-1.
• 1-4 Orphan Superflex #2 that I want to lose is down 137 to 99. He has Pollard I have Ferguson. Looks like a loss. 1-5.

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Re: Week 6 Discussion

Postby BabyChark23 » Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:19 pm

Justin Herbert completed a pass to himself for 10 yards. Is he a QB1 AND a WR1 going forward?

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Re: Week 6 Discussion

Postby Bronco Billy » Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:32 pm

BabyChark23 wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:02 pm
:lol: Yeah, it’s been pretty bad. I only noticed because he was one of my deep sleeper stashes this year.

Thanks for posting these snap counts.
Douglas is a good stash IMO. He seems to be able to get open at will. His fumble on what was a really good D play has him in Belicheck’s doghouse, but if he outlasts BB or the coach comes to his senses on that irrational aspect of his demeanor, Douglas could be a solid FF contributor.

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Re: Week 6 Discussion

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:45 pm

That toss Dak put in the breadbasket to Gallup might have been his best throw of the year. Need to catch that ball, even with the slight tug by the DB.
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Re: Week 6 Discussion

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:14 pm

Defenses are playing well this year. Highest under percentage (nearly 60 percent) in the 2000's as of tonight's game. The Browns have given up the least amount of yards through their first 5 games, since 1971. All this, while all the rules have been made to make it easier for the offences.
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Re: Week 6 Discussion

Postby 81- » Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:24 pm

If you draft a 6'3" wr in the 1st round, shouldn't you maybe give him a snap or two inside the 10 yard line?
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Re: Week 6 Discussion

Postby oneson9192 » Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:33 pm

I'd take a late '24 second for Quentin Johnson if I had any shares and let them call me a panic-seller. Unbelievable how little this offense can involve everyone but him. Off a bye. With no Mike Williams. When the run game isn't working.
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