Breece Hall 2023 review

[BabyChark23]

How do we feel about Breece Hall going forward as a dynasty asset? He is struggling quite a bit statwise (very low ypc), but has occasional burst plays where we see a glimpse of the Breece we saw last year. Does anyone more knowledgeable than I know what the reason for the poor stats is? Is it just stacked boxes because of ZW? Is the injury impacting him? Combination? I consider him a buy low at the moment, but even at a dip, he isn’t gonna be real cheap so I wanted to ask around and see if anyone else knows of cause for concern.

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ACL

[Shoreline Steamers]

ACL

Yep. First year back is generally bumpy. Unless you're Adrian Peterson of course.

[waynesworld1234]

He's going to be fine. Seems to me that he doesn't fully trust the knee yet. It looks like he gives himself up a bit on plays where he's in the grasp rather than try to fight through the tackle with his legs.

He's only 22. Will hopefully come into next season fully healthy at 23 just in time for the RB apex years.

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He's going to be fine. Seems to me that he doesn't fully trust the knee yet. It looks like he gives himself up a bit on plays where he's in the grasp rather than try to fight through the tackle with his legs.

He's only 22. Will hopefully come into next season fully healthy at 23 just in time for the RB apex years.

This should be every Breece shareholder's primary concern: getting through 2023 unscathed. Jets are actually doing a massive solid to him as a dynasty asset this year by ramping him up slowly, even though I know people counting on him don't want to hear that right now.

Data on athletes who have major lower body injuries is screaming in the direction of "incredibly likely to experience serious re-injury" during that comeback year. Is it because they favour their leg differently, or they're overcompensating? Or just that it's already injured? I don't know, I'm *definitely* not a doctor, but it does look like a real thing.

Consider some of the sample now, even just recently:
Dobbins - repeated complications and surgeries, worst-case runout
Javonte - sapped of effectiveness, and just suffered a hip-flexor with an MRI to come
Saquon - had ankle injuries from bad luck as much as anything, but apart from that escaped his comeback year pretty clean and has been effective

There's others I'm forgetting, my brain is mush today watching this absolutely god-awful Giants team pal around on the field...

[FantasyFreak]

He's going to be fine. Seems to me that he doesn't fully trust the knee yet. It looks like he gives himself up a bit on plays where he's in the grasp rather than try to fight through the tackle with his legs.

He's only 22. Will hopefully come into next season fully healthy at 23 just in time for the RB apex years.

This should be every Breece shareholder's primary concern: getting through 2023 unscathed. Jets are actually doing a massive solid to him as a dynasty asset this year by ramping him up slowly, even though I know people counting on him don't want to hear that right now.

Data on athletes who have major lower body injuries is screaming in the direction of "incredibly likely to experience serious re-injury" during that comeback year. Is it because they favour their leg differently, or they're overcompensating? Or just that it's already injured? I don't know, I'm *definitely* not a doctor, but it does look like a real thing.

Consider some of the sample now, even just recently:
Dobbins - repeated complications and surgeries, worst-case runout
Javonte - sapped of effectiveness, and just suffered a hip-flexor with an MRI to come
Saquon - had ankle injuries from bad luck as much as anything, but apart from that escaped his comeback year pretty clean and has been effective

There's others I'm forgetting, my brain is mush today watching this absolutely god-awful Giants team pal around on the field...

It's a bit further back, but didn't Dalvin have a hammy the year after his ACL? Even Kendre Miller had a re-injury to his knee, and a compensation hammy, this season, after his late season injury last year.

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It's a bit further back, but didn't Dalvin have a hammy the year after his ACL? Even Kendre Miller had a re-injury to his knee, and a compensation hammy, this season, after his late season injury last year.

Yeah, bingo. Great examples. I know there's more too... I was half-listening to a fantasy podcast talking about it in the recap shows when they were talking about Javonte. They were firing out a list of guys.

Once you get on that leg-injury cycle, it can be tough to break. You really need to get lucky and hope for no further complications.

So far so good for Breece, though. I legit hope he makes it through the year, because he's absolutely electric to watch.

[Jigga94]

RB tier list:

RBs who are healthy

-tier break-

RBs who are not healthy

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Burst looks good. Just hoping he gets out of this season without any compensation injuries and then jets passing game recovers next year.

Don't think I'll ever have any shares of him because of he crashes this year I don't think I'd want to invest in him and if he doesn't I don't see a reason to invest more into a RB with an ACL surgery on his record.

But that being said, I hope he recovers great and is an electric player for years to come.

[Jigga94]

Burst looks good. Just hoping he gets out of this season without any compensation injuries and then jets passing game recovers next year.

Don't think I'll ever have any shares of him because of he crashes this year I don't think I'd want to invest in him and if he doesn't I don't see a reason to invest more into a RB with an ACL surgery on his record.

But that being said, I hope he recovers great and is an electric player for years to come.

Yeah if anything my plan is to try to buy low in the offseason or maybe around this year's trade deadline if his value continues to decline

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Burst looks good. Just hoping he gets out of this season without any compensation injuries and then jets passing game recovers next year.

Don't think I'll ever have any shares of him because of he crashes this year I don't think I'd want to invest in him and if he doesn't I don't see a reason to invest more into a RB with an ACL surgery on his record.

But that being said, I hope he recovers great and is an electric player for years to come.

Yeah if anything my plan is to try to buy low in the offseason or maybe around this year's trade deadline if his value continues to decline

Given the current RB landscape I just don't see.his value dropping significantly. If he doesn't have an injury this year I think he'll still be valued as a top 4-6 RB at worst.

Everyone has bijan as the rb1 right now, but who's the RB2?

Gibbs hasn't gotten off to an amazing start
Achane has put up 2 awesome weeks
CMC has put up the numbers but is older
Walker is solid and is holding off charbs well but still charbs is going to be there
JT is unhappy with Indy and is still coming back from injury
Swift hasn't don't enough yet to rebound

Honestly I think I have CMC at RB2 just because he puts up huge numbers and maybe his remaining career length is similar to the rest.

I just don't see hall crashing unless he suffers an injury.

[Jigga94]

Burst looks good. Just hoping he gets out of this season without any compensation injuries and then jets passing game recovers next year.

Don't think I'll ever have any shares of him because of he crashes this year I don't think I'd want to invest in him and if he doesn't I don't see a reason to invest more into a RB with an ACL surgery on his record.

But that being said, I hope he recovers great and is an electric player for years to come.

Yeah if anything my plan is to try to buy low in the offseason or maybe around this year's trade deadline if his value continues to decline

Given the current RB landscape I just don't see.his value dropping significantly. If he doesn't have an injury this year I think he'll still be valued as a top 4-6 RB at worst.

Everyone has bijan as the rb1 right now, but who's the RB2?

Gibbs hasn't gotten off to an amazing start
Achane has put up 2 awesome weeks
CMC has put up the numbers but is older
Walker is solid and is holding off charbs well but still charbs is going to be there
JT is unhappy with Indy and is still coming back from injury
Swift hasn't don't enough yet to rebound

Honestly I think I have CMC at RB2 just because he puts up huge numbers and maybe his remaining career length is similar to the rest.

I just don't see hall crashing unless he suffers an injury.

I totally agree that he will still be a top 5 RB or so if he gets through injury free. But the gap between him and the top RB continues to rise. Kind of like how Javonte was the RB3 an offseason ago by default, but he was nowhere near the value of the top guys.

Instead of paying 2-3 1sts for Breece, it's getting to 1 1st+

[waynesworld1234]

I think he’s looked much healthier the second half of the season. A lot more trust in his knee and invites contact. Had 1-2 fines from using the crown of his head, but definitely nice to see he’s feeling better on the field. Had a heavy workload in the fantasy playoffs, including a game with 36 opportunities. If this is his floor for a healthy season then I’m happy to hold for the next few years.

He does seem a bit immature / takes things personally. There was the off-season tweet about not wanting the Cook signing (when he’s a rookie rehabbing a torn ACL). Early season tweet about touches. Pro-bowl snub. Wish he would just focus on his craft and keep it in house. Still, coming back from an ACL the way he did shows a strong mental attitude and I’m not too worried about it.

[Shcritters]

Honestly could see him having a Leveon Vell type career… in all the positive ways. Strong rusher, caught nearly 75 passes this year. I expect his receptions to go down by 25-35 next year with Rodgers back and elevating other pass catchers and checking down less… but rushing and TDs should go up significantly.

[TheTroll]

Honestly could see him having a Leveon Vell type career… in all the positive ways. Strong rusher, caught nearly 75 passes this year. I expect his receptions to go down by 25-35 next year with Rodgers back and elevating other pass catchers and checking down less… but rushing and TDs should go up significantly.

100% agree here. Rodgers is a down field passer. I think Hall benefited from the weak QB play. I was never a Hall truther before this season but he really impressed me alot and if Aaron can air it out, the space to run for Hall should be even better in 2024