Didn't see a thread so I thought it was time
This isn't a standard get hyped thread or "you're missing out on an RB1"
Just a general observation on a guy I didn't exactly love as a prospect
He has been very efficient on the ground through 3 weeks despite facing 2 of the best defenses in football and behind a line that can't block for Derrick Henry---and earned targets at a solid clip in the receiving game
His PFF grades are the 3rd best in the class behind only Bijan and Achane and he is top 15 in broken tackles and yards after contact per touch
But more than anything it cannot be understated that this is a team that has built their entire offensive identity around King Henry---made him the workhorsiest of all workhorses in a league that doesn't have many of them left---for years and here comes a third round rookie who is commanding significant touches from his first game. There are entire drives where they just have Spears in. That's not really precedented for the Titans (and they have spent mid round picks on backs like Hassan Haskins and Darryonton Evans before)
That is not common in the slightest and something that I think represents a rare case of dynasty owners under-reacting to a rookie
Now there are downsides too such as the knee and the fact that Spears next year is tracking to be the RB1 in a Will Levis or Malik Willis led offense (probably--assuming Henry is done in Tennessee after this year which based on their start to the year appears likely)
But considering how reasonable the cost is I still think he is underrated having shown more than guys like Kendre Miller/Zach Charbonnet/Roschon Johnson (none of which I am saying suck--don't get me wrong) and getting basically no buzz
Tyjae Spears is Underrated
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I was also lukewarm on Spears. He looked someone I wouldn't mind take a chance on, but I didn't think he was necessarily a good bet. I'm with you now. He looks really good and looks like someone fantasy managers should try to acquire. I'd be happy to make a slight overpay now to try to bet on his next 2-3 seasons.
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Re: Tyjae Spears is Underrated
Love what I've seen from Spears. His college tape was just full of wow plays and he plays with a different type of shift and explosion than a lot of backs in this class. Without the no-ACL thing, I think he would be in very high demand right now. I think a lot of people still look at him as someone they don't want to be left holding the bag with.
I don't know if the production will be there this year. The Titans offensive line has been putrid. But, Henry is getting up there in age and is dealing with turf toe. Spears is a fresher back and could really start to outsnap him at some point
I don't know if the production will be there this year. The Titans offensive line has been putrid. But, Henry is getting up there in age and is dealing with turf toe. Spears is a fresher back and could really start to outsnap him at some point
Re: Tyjae Spears is Underrated
I know you know this, but Spears has outsnapped Henry in 2 of 3 games this year. I think they probably have a lot of negative game script, which will fare better for Spears imoCameron Giles wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 5:15 am Love what I've seen from Spears. His college tape was just full of wow plays and he plays with a different type of shift and explosion than a lot of backs in this class. Without the no-ACL thing, I think he would be in very high demand right now. I think a lot of people still look at him as someone they don't want to be left holding the bag with.
I don't know if the production will be there this year. The Titans offensive line has been putrid. But, Henry is getting up there in age and is dealing with turf toe. Spears is a fresher back and could really start to outsnap him at some point
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Re: Tyjae Spears is Underrated
Spears looks the part so far. His value could sky rocket if he slots into a 1a role.
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My 4th rated rb in rookie drafts behind only Miller, Gibbs and Bijan. His tape was absurd.
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Re: Tyjae Spears is Underrated
I'm waiting to see if he ends up getting more work moving forward, and am interested in what he'd do with more touches. He is an intriguing (and polarizing) player due to his somewhat unique physical circumstances.
I recall a poster who used to be around that was beating the drum early, often, and quite loudly for Spears. Butt he got a little too full of himself.
I recall a poster who used to be around that was beating the drum early, often, and quite loudly for Spears. Butt he got a little too full of himself.
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Re: Tyjae Spears is Underrated
Getting left holding the bag on Spears is absolutely where I was/am still at. But for sure, in this early going - he looks like a real guy that will contribute for as long as his knee stays on - which is true of all RB's really, to a degree.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 6:00 amI know you know this, but Spears has outsnapped Henry in 2 of 3 games this year. I think they probably have a lot of negative game script, which will fare better for Spears imoCameron Giles wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 5:15 am Love what I've seen from Spears. His college tape was just full of wow plays and he plays with a different type of shift and explosion than a lot of backs in this class. Without the no-ACL thing, I think he would be in very high demand right now. I think a lot of people still look at him as someone they don't want to be left holding the bag with.
I don't know if the production will be there this year. The Titans offensive line has been putrid. But, Henry is getting up there in age and is dealing with turf toe. Spears is a fresher back and could really start to outsnap him at some point
Jigga, to your point there - and I know YOU probably know this already, but... this Derrick Henry slowdown might be kind of real:
For the big dawg to be the big dawg, he needs to break tackles like he did in 2022 when he lead the league in that stat - and he needs to get as close to "featured back" loading as he can.Derrick Henry thru 3 weeks:
-0.22 missed tackles forced/att
-2.59 yards created after contact/att
-0.61 yards created before contact/att
Tyjae Spears
-0.53 missed tackles forced/att
-4.2 yards created after contact/att
-1.27 yards created before contact/att
It might be curtains on both of those ideas in 2023 - thanks to Spears, D-Henny's age, and that abysmal Titans line. It definitely beahs closer watching.
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