CJ Stroud & Coin Flips
CJ Stroud & Coin Flips
What are we thinking after his performance this week? Outlook for this year and beyond?
Last edited by ThirdWW on Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:26 am, edited 1 time in total.
Team One:
Year 12
12 team, .5 ppr
QB 2RB 3WR TE FLEX K DL LB DB
QB - CJ Stroud
RB - Tank Bigsby, Sean Tucker, Chris Rodriguez, cans
WR - Garrett Wilson, Drake London, JSN, Jahan Dotson, Demario Douglas, Elijah Moore
TE - Kyle Pitts, Cade Otton, Chig Okonkwo
2024 Picks: 1.1, 1.2, 1.9, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 3.2, 3.7, 4.1
2025 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4
Team Two:
Year 2
12 team, .5 ppr, SF
QB SF 2RB 3WR TE 2FLEX K
QB - Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones
RB - Roschon Johnson, Kendre Miller, streaming
WR - Amon-Ra St. Brown, Chris Olave, Jaylen Waddle, Jordan Addison, Jahan Dotson, Demario Douglas, Elijah Moore, Wan’Dale Robinson
TE - Kyle Pitts, Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Chig
2024 Picks: 1.08, 1.12, 4.1, 4.11
2025 Picks 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4
Year 12
12 team, .5 ppr
QB 2RB 3WR TE FLEX K DL LB DB
QB - CJ Stroud
RB - Tank Bigsby, Sean Tucker, Chris Rodriguez, cans
WR - Garrett Wilson, Drake London, JSN, Jahan Dotson, Demario Douglas, Elijah Moore
TE - Kyle Pitts, Cade Otton, Chig Okonkwo
2024 Picks: 1.1, 1.2, 1.9, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 3.2, 3.7, 4.1
2025 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4
Team Two:
Year 2
12 team, .5 ppr, SF
QB SF 2RB 3WR TE 2FLEX K
QB - Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones
RB - Roschon Johnson, Kendre Miller, streaming
WR - Amon-Ra St. Brown, Chris Olave, Jaylen Waddle, Jordan Addison, Jahan Dotson, Demario Douglas, Elijah Moore, Wan’Dale Robinson
TE - Kyle Pitts, Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Chig
2024 Picks: 1.08, 1.12, 4.1, 4.11
2025 Picks 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4
Re: CJ Stroud
Feels like a QB2 type to me. I don't love his field vision and he is just not overly mobile to my eye test. Played really well this week though so there is definitely upside for more. I'm just more skeptical than excited here.
14 TM / Devy / SuperFlex / TEP
1 Q / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 1 SF / 3 F / 1 DT / 2 DE / 3 LB / 2 CB / 2 S / 1 F
QB: Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence
RB: Zamir White, James Conner, Trey Benson, Jaylen Warren, Will Shipley
WR: Michael Pittman, Puka Nacua, Drake London, Christian Kirk, Josh Palmer
TE: Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Noah Gray
PK: Justin Tucker, Jason Myers
DT: Grover Stewart, Devonte Wyatt
DE: Alex Highsmith, Jonathan Cooper, Gregory Rousseau, Matt Judon, Baron Browning
LB: Fred Warner, Dre Greenlaw, Ernest Jones, Alex Anzalone, Jack Campbell
CB: L'Jarius Sneed, Deommodore Lenoir, Taron Johnson
S: Derwin James, Talanoa Hufanga, Kareem Jackson
DEVY: RB Nick Singleton PSU
2024 DEVY DEPLETED PICKS: 1.11, 1.13, 2.03, 2.05, 2.13, 3.01, 3.07, 3.10, 3.12, 4.03, 4.11, 4.15, 5.01, 5.02
1 Q / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 1 SF / 3 F / 1 DT / 2 DE / 3 LB / 2 CB / 2 S / 1 F
QB: Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence
RB: Zamir White, James Conner, Trey Benson, Jaylen Warren, Will Shipley
WR: Michael Pittman, Puka Nacua, Drake London, Christian Kirk, Josh Palmer
TE: Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Noah Gray
PK: Justin Tucker, Jason Myers
DT: Grover Stewart, Devonte Wyatt
DE: Alex Highsmith, Jonathan Cooper, Gregory Rousseau, Matt Judon, Baron Browning
LB: Fred Warner, Dre Greenlaw, Ernest Jones, Alex Anzalone, Jack Campbell
CB: L'Jarius Sneed, Deommodore Lenoir, Taron Johnson
S: Derwin James, Talanoa Hufanga, Kareem Jackson
DEVY: RB Nick Singleton PSU
2024 DEVY DEPLETED PICKS: 1.11, 1.13, 2.03, 2.05, 2.13, 3.01, 3.07, 3.10, 3.12, 4.03, 4.11, 4.15, 5.01, 5.02
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Re: CJ Stroud
NGL I'm impressed
I don't care if it's garbage time 384 yards and no picks with the OL and weapons group Houston has is something to take note of
Still don't see the ceiling due to rushing but the guy can play
I don't care if it's garbage time 384 yards and no picks with the OL and weapons group Houston has is something to take note of
Still don't see the ceiling due to rushing but the guy can play
Re: CJ Stroud is dynasty's new QB7
Don't forget Stroud actually has 626yds on 91 pass attempts with zero interceptions on the season. I don't know how readily such stats are available, but it would be interesting to see how many rookie QBs have started and played their first two games without an interception.StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:34 am NGL I'm impressed
I don't care if it's garbage time 384 yards and no picks with the OL and weapons group Houston has is something to take note of
I already expected CJ to be the best of the three rookie QBs at actual passing and processing speed and making good decisions. I don't know what his ceiling is, but his game-to-game floor projects to be somewhere around QB15-18 going into season 2. I think his dynasty ranking is better than that.
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TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
Re: CJ Stroud
I doubted him a little because of his situation in college. But he's impressed me so far. He's definitely moving up rankings with Love and Howell while guys like Fields, Watson and Pickett move down
Re: CJ Stroud
https://x.com/BradeauxNBA/status/170350 ... 60224?s=20Anteaters wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:25 amDon't forget Stroud actually has 626yds on 91 pass attempts with zero interceptions on the season. I don't know how readily such stats are available, but it would be interesting to see how many rookie QBs have started and played their first two games without an interception.StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:34 am NGL I'm impressed
I don't care if it's garbage time 384 yards and no picks with the OL and weapons group Houston has is something to take note of
I already expected CJ to be the best of the three rookie QBs at actual passing and processing speed and making good decisions. I don't know what his ceiling is, but his game-to-game floor projects to be somewhere around QB15-18 going into season 2. I think his dynasty ranking is better than that.
Re: CJ Stroud
I may be a homer but he's doing with 4 starting O-linemen out, a rookie OC, and a mess of WRs and no running game. I mean he looks head and shoulders above Bryce who was thought to be the most NFL ready QB coming out
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Re: CJ Stroud
I don’t think his WRs are that bad. They’re mostly just unproven. Tank seems pretty good and Collins has always shown signs of being decent and seems to be cashing in on that this year. Woods is a perpetually underrated and they even have some upside depth. No elite guys, but these guys could compete for starter snaps on most teams.
All I Der Is Win - 16 Team IDP League (Pass TD 6pts)
QB - Stafford, Stroud, Tune
RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker
QB - Stafford, Stroud, Tune
RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker
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Re: CJ Stroud
Woods looked totally and completely washed in Tennessee last yearericanadian wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:38 pmI don’t think his WRs are that bad. They’re mostly just unproven. Tank seems pretty good and Collins has always shown signs of being decent and seems to be cashing in on that this year. Woods is a perpetually underrated and they even have some upside depth. No elite guys, but these guys could compete for starter snaps on most teams.
Like barely in the league level
Collins and Dell are alright but them being your top 2 WRs is really not indicative of an offense that should be throwing for 300+ yards
Dell especially is very undersized
Re: CJ Stroud
Stroud sure looks like a solid NFL QB. The game is obviously not too big for him.
This team will be playing from behind all year so he will get loads of experience reading defenses. I see him as a strong dynasty buy even in 1 QB leagues.
This team will be playing from behind all year so he will get loads of experience reading defenses. I see him as a strong dynasty buy even in 1 QB leagues.
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Re: CJ Stroud
I’m not sure assessing Woods on his play for a team with Treylon Burks and Nick Westbrook-Ikhine as their best secondary receivers is a fair assessment. That offense was terrible. Woods has never been a lead receiver who can beat the other team’s top coverage. He’s way better in a support role as he is in now.StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:44 pmWoods looked totally and completely washed in Tennessee last yearericanadian wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:38 pmI don’t think his WRs are that bad. They’re mostly just unproven. Tank seems pretty good and Collins has always shown signs of being decent and seems to be cashing in on that this year. Woods is a perpetually underrated and they even have some upside depth. No elite guys, but these guys could compete for starter snaps on most teams.
Like barely in the league level
Collins and Dell are alright but them being your top 2 WRs is really not indicative of an offense that should be throwing for 300+ yards
Dell especially is very undersized
All I Der Is Win - 16 Team IDP League (Pass TD 6pts)
QB - Stafford, Stroud, Tune
RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker
QB - Stafford, Stroud, Tune
RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker
Re: CJ Stroud
I don’t hate seeing thiszeeshan2 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:12 pmhttps://x.com/BradeauxNBA/status/170350 ... 60224?s=20Anteaters wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:25 amDon't forget Stroud actually has 626yds on 91 pass attempts with zero interceptions on the season. I don't know how readily such stats are available, but it would be interesting to see how many rookie QBs have started and played their first two games without an interception.StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:34 am NGL I'm impressed
I don't care if it's garbage time 384 yards and no picks with the OL and weapons group Houston has is something to take note of
I already expected CJ to be the best of the three rookie QBs at actual passing and processing speed and making good decisions. I don't know what his ceiling is, but his game-to-game floor projects to be somewhere around QB15-18 going into season 2. I think his dynasty ranking is better than that.
Team One:
Year 12
12 team, .5 ppr
QB 2RB 3WR TE FLEX K DL LB DB
QB - CJ Stroud
RB - Tank Bigsby, Sean Tucker, Chris Rodriguez, cans
WR - Garrett Wilson, Drake London, JSN, Jahan Dotson, Demario Douglas, Elijah Moore
TE - Kyle Pitts, Cade Otton, Chig Okonkwo
2024 Picks: 1.1, 1.2, 1.9, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 3.2, 3.7, 4.1
2025 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4
Team Two:
Year 2
12 team, .5 ppr, SF
QB SF 2RB 3WR TE 2FLEX K
QB - Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones
RB - Roschon Johnson, Kendre Miller, streaming
WR - Amon-Ra St. Brown, Chris Olave, Jaylen Waddle, Jordan Addison, Jahan Dotson, Demario Douglas, Elijah Moore, Wan’Dale Robinson
TE - Kyle Pitts, Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Chig
2024 Picks: 1.08, 1.12, 4.1, 4.11
2025 Picks 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4
Year 12
12 team, .5 ppr
QB 2RB 3WR TE FLEX K DL LB DB
QB - CJ Stroud
RB - Tank Bigsby, Sean Tucker, Chris Rodriguez, cans
WR - Garrett Wilson, Drake London, JSN, Jahan Dotson, Demario Douglas, Elijah Moore
TE - Kyle Pitts, Cade Otton, Chig Okonkwo
2024 Picks: 1.1, 1.2, 1.9, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 3.2, 3.7, 4.1
2025 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4
Team Two:
Year 2
12 team, .5 ppr, SF
QB SF 2RB 3WR TE 2FLEX K
QB - Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones
RB - Roschon Johnson, Kendre Miller, streaming
WR - Amon-Ra St. Brown, Chris Olave, Jaylen Waddle, Jordan Addison, Jahan Dotson, Demario Douglas, Elijah Moore, Wan’Dale Robinson
TE - Kyle Pitts, Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Chig
2024 Picks: 1.08, 1.12, 4.1, 4.11
2025 Picks 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4
Re: CJ Stroud is dynasty's new QB7
zeeshan2 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:12 pmhttps://x.com/BradeauxNBA/status/170350 ... 60224?s=20Anteaters wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:25 amDon't forget Stroud actually has 626yds on 91 pass attempts with zero interceptions on the season. I don't know how readily such stats are available, but it would be interesting to see how many rookie QBs have started and played their first two games without an interception.StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:34 am NGL I'm impressed
I don't care if it's garbage time 384 yards and no picks with the OL and weapons group Houston has is something to take note of
I already expected CJ to be the best of the three rookie QBs at actual passing and processing speed and making good decisions. I don't know what his ceiling is, but his game-to-game floor projects to be somewhere around QB15-18 going into season 2. I think his dynasty ranking is better than that.
Thanks for that. That's just more reason to help predict his ascension!
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TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
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Re: CJ Stroud
I remember this being a talking point in 2016 with Dak Prescott and Carson Wentz. Dak went without an interception until his 6th game (155 attempts through 5 games), and Wentz made it to game 4 (102 attempts through 3 games).Anteaters wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:29 amzeeshan2 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:12 pmhttps://x.com/BradeauxNBA/status/170350 ... 60224?s=20Anteaters wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:25 am
Don't forget Stroud actually has 626yds on 91 pass attempts with zero interceptions on the season. I don't know how readily such stats are available, but it would be interesting to see how many rookie QBs have started and played their first two games without an interception.
I already expected CJ to be the best of the three rookie QBs at actual passing and processing speed and making good decisions. I don't know what his ceiling is, but his game-to-game floor projects to be somewhere around QB15-18 going into season 2. I think his dynasty ranking is better than that.
Thanks for that. That's just more reason to help predict his ascension!
12 Team Superflex - PPR, 0.25 PPC - QB/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex/Superflex
QB: L Jackson, Tagovailoa, Rodgers, Pickett, Tannehill
RB: Swift, Pacheco, Sanders, Hubbard, Spears, Dillon, Herbert, McLaughlin, Chandler, Dowdle
WR: DeVonta, Waddle, Aiyuk, Nacua, McLaurin, Hopkins, M Williams, Mingo, Wan’Dale, Hyatt
TE: Kelce, Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
QB: L Jackson, Tagovailoa, Rodgers, Pickett, Tannehill
RB: Swift, Pacheco, Sanders, Hubbard, Spears, Dillon, Herbert, McLaughlin, Chandler, Dowdle
WR: DeVonta, Waddle, Aiyuk, Nacua, McLaurin, Hopkins, M Williams, Mingo, Wan’Dale, Hyatt
TE: Kelce, Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
Re: CJ Stroud
I’ll be happy if he puts up Kirk Cousins level production for the next 10 to 15 years
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