Charbs for Jamo?

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Charbs for Jamo?

Postby Major_Loser » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:51 pm

Approached by the Charbs owner.

I give: Jamo

I get: Charbs

I am fairly deep at WR, with Jamo likely being my WR4 or WR5, but I don't really have strong depth after my top two RB's. Does this trade make sense for my team build? I also think if KW3 goes down, Charbs is gonna be a beast.

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1 Qb, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE
QB: Herbert, Tannehill
RB: Josh Jacobs, Dobbins, Charbs, Ford
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Re: Charbs for Jamo?

Postby abloom » Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:52 pm

I'm starting to get out on jamo. Between his injury last year, gambling this year, and general reports of him being a jerk, in happy to get a late first valuation (charbs) for him.

I'd go for it.
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W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

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Re: Charbs for Jamo?

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:12 pm

abloom wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:52 pm I'm starting to get out on jamo. Between his injury last year, gambling this year, and general reports of him being a jerk, in happy to get a late first valuation (charbs) for him.

I'd go for it.
I would try to get a bit more on value and with Walker III in front of Charbonnet but I totally get it. Williams is getting concerning.

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Re: Charbs for Jamo?

Postby badbuddah » Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:22 pm

I think I'd do it. He seems like a thug that don't care about life, and we saw how that worked out with Ruggs. Talent is tempting, but headcases rarely work out long term. Probably one of the few that did is Antonio Brown.
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WR: R. Doubs, G. Pickens, Christian Kirk, Juju, D. Hopkins, D. Wicks, K. Boutte
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Re: Charbs for Jamo?

Postby TheTroll » Fri Sep 01, 2023 2:09 am

Williams went undrafted in my 12 team redraft league in part due to the opening suspension but no one willing to stash him says a lot.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn

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2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Charbs for Jamo?

Postby tstafford » Fri Sep 01, 2023 2:47 am

TheTroll wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 2:09 am Williams went undrafted in my 12 team redraft league in part due to the opening suspension but no one willing to stash him says a lot.
I think this should happen in most leagues unless they allow sus players to be placed in IR slots. He's suspended six weeks, you aren't likely to start him the first week back and then they have a bye week 9. So at most you get one game out of the first nine weeks. That's a tough pill to swallow if you have 16 roster spots.

As to the trade - I think fantasy managers need to either be in or out on JAMO. At this point it's reasonable to feel (and it's just that - a feeling) that he is one of those guys who for various reasons won't achieve to his apparent potential. We see this from time to time - Justin Blackmon, Josh Gordon, etc. It's also reasonable to have FOMO and want to avoid the chance of watching JAMO absolutely blow up on someone else's roster.

I was 100% in on JAMO and had him (plus London, Burks and Dotson) as strong buys this off-season. Once the suspension happened I flipped. Now he's in the avoid category for me. I've just seen too many cases where fantasy managers chase these guys. Seems to fail more times than not. I accept that I will miss on some. But I think the odds favor pulling the rip chord.

I'd for sure take Charbs for JAMO at this point. Seems like full value.

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Re: Charbs for Jamo?

Postby The.Big.Spank » Fri Sep 01, 2023 5:04 am

Charbs. Even if Jamo hits, he is already stained and getting full value for him will be hard for the next couple years.
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QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
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QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
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Re: Charbs for Jamo?

Postby killer_of_giants » Fri Sep 01, 2023 5:46 am

i did sell williams for a first to draft charbonnet back in may. so yeah, i'd sell him even more now!

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Re: Charbs for Jamo?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:04 am

seems fair, idk where all this bad attitude and thug talk is coming from i havent seen anything like that out there
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Charbs for Jamo?

Postby tstafford » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:14 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:04 am seems fair, idk where all this bad attitude and thug talk is coming from i havent seen anything like that out there
One person said "thug".

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Re: Charbs for Jamo?

Postby dblj1199 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:22 am

Well I've missed the "thug" talk, but yes he has had a pretty poor start to his career. Yes we knew he is talented and was coming off of a acl and year one was a wash. He was pretty much stupid and gambled, saying "I never was told / heard not to gamble", I mean that sounds straight gangsterish to me, or just a young kid not taking responsibility. He has the higher upside, but it's going to take awhile longer.
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RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
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Re: Charbs for Jamo?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:13 am

tstafford wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:14 am
BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:04 am seems fair, idk where all this bad attitude and thug talk is coming from i havent seen anything like that out there
One person said "thug".
correct observation, another responder said "general reports of him being a jerk". more than one person responding here has claims of hearing bad things about his attitude or work ethic etc i was saying i havent seen anything of the sorts.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Charbs for Jamo?

Postby killer_of_giants » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:46 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:13 am
tstafford wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:14 am
BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:04 am seems fair, idk where all this bad attitude and thug talk is coming from i havent seen anything like that out there
One person said "thug".
correct observation, another responder said "general reports of him being a jerk". more than one person responding here has claims of hearing bad things about his attitude or work ethic etc i was saying i havent seen anything of the sorts.
he punched a UDFA CB that he couldn't beat...

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Re: Charbs for Jamo?

Postby IR1 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:50 am

TheTroll wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 2:09 am Williams went undrafted in my 12 team redraft league in part due to the opening suspension but no one willing to stash him says a lot.
off topic, but I haven't had anyone interested in trading him, not sure I'll keep him on my roster as we have cuts coming up soon
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
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Re: Charbs for Jamo?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:27 am

killer_of_giants wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:46 am
BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:13 am
tstafford wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:14 am

One person said "thug".
correct observation, another responder said "general reports of him being a jerk". more than one person responding here has claims of hearing bad things about his attitude or work ethic etc i was saying i havent seen anything of the sorts.
he punched a UDFA CB that he couldn't beat...
now theres a real blurb about something that happened that could be cause for concern character wise but i do think thats a nothingburger personally
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp


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