I'd honestly give that distinction to Josh Palmer.
All Things Bears
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Re: All Things Bears
I like Keenan a lot. For the Bears, smart move to give more talent to the rookie, but for fantasy I think it's a demotion. I have him in the mix with Jefferson, Tyreek, Diggs, and Adams. So I guess I hope he can put up WR2 numbers? He was WR6 last year. With Williams, and only DJM as a real target, I think he's a great short-yardage, crossing, possession WR.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
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Curious—if the Bears WERE to try and get one of the top three WRs, does it matter whether it's Harrison, Nabers, or Odunze? Who would fit in well with DJM and Allen? IDK. Maybe they like a fast guy like Worthy later. Or even a good hands possession wr like Pearsall.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
Re: All Things Bears
Combining any of those 3 with DJM/KA will be huge, as long as KA is heathy for. They are all fairly versatile as well. DJM mostly outside, KA and Nabers splitting time in the slot. Sounds like the best WR room the Bears have ever had and possibly the best a #1 QB has ever walked into. Just have to figure out how to either go from 9 up to maybe 6 or 7 to secure one of the top 3.wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:56 pm Curious—if the Bears WERE to try and get one of the top three WRs, does it matter whether it's Harrison, Nabers, or Odunze? Who would fit in well with DJM and Allen? IDK. Maybe they like a fast guy like Worthy later. Or even a good hands possession wr like Pearsall.
Or play it smart, move back from 9 and secure some extra capital and grab a late 1st WR would be my preference
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Re: All Things Bears
Harrison and Nabers will not be on the board at 9. I can't imagine they'll consolidate picks to move up for one of them after acquiring Allen. Odunze would be interesting there, but wouldn't have much impact as a rookie behind two targets hogs.wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:56 pm Curious—if the Bears WERE to try and get one of the top three WRs, does it matter whether it's Harrison, Nabers, or Odunze? Who would fit in well with DJM and Allen? IDK. Maybe they like a fast guy like Worthy later. Or even a good hands possession wr like Pearsall.
Atlanta and Chicago seem like prime targets to move down now that they've addressed needs that they were expected to fill at that spot. If not, I could see both addressing defensive needs there.
Re: All Things Bears
The Bears only have 4 picks in the draft now. I think it’s highly likely they trade down from 1.09.
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Re: All Things Bears
the problem is that teams that need QBs don't want to pay to still need QBs.wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:42 pm Good points, I was thinking more teams that need QBS not the style of play.
Re: All Things Bears
I like what Poles is doing. He's been a breath of fresh air after the Ryan Pace reach/overpay draft process
I like Eberflus as well. He is still growing, but the mentality is right.
If Caleb can be the guy, this team has potential.
I like Eberflus as well. He is still growing, but the mentality is right.
If Caleb can be the guy, this team has potential.
12 Team, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1Flex, D, K, 10 Bench
1PPR, 0.5 point per carry.
Burrow, Richardson
AJ Brown, DJMoore, G Wilson, T Higgens, Sutton, Tillman, Melton
King Henry, Bijan, Pacheco, Mixon, Ford, JK
Hockenson, Musgrave
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AJ Brown, DJMoore, G Wilson, T Higgens, Sutton, Tillman, Melton
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Re: All Things Bears
With the way they are stacking the offense, this doesn't feel to me like the moves you make for a rookie QB. Is it possible the Bears are setting up a trade for a more established vet QB instead of taking Williams?
12 Team Non-PPR, 6pt TDs-22' R/U, 23' R/U
1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 1TE, 2Flex (W/R/T), 1K, 1DST
QB: P. Mahomes, R. Tannehill
RB: D. Achane, D. Henry, J. Mixon, A. Ekeler, M. Sanders
WR: T. Hill, D. Smith, D. J. Moore, D. Samuel, T. Higgins, D. Hopkins, O. Beckham, D. Wicks, J. Metchie
TE: T. Kelce, C. Kmet, H. Henry, M. Gesicki
K: J. Tucker
D/ST: Baltimore, Jacksonville
2024 Picks: 4.9
12 Team .5 PPR, 6pt TDs
1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 1TE, 3Flex (W/R/T), 1K, 1DST
QB: J. Love, J. Herbert
RB: S. Barkley, J. Cook, I. Pacheco, Br. Robinson, D. Singletary, D. Pierce
WR: D. J. Moore, J. Waddle, Z. Flowers, T. Higgins, C. Watson, J. Downs, J. Dotson, R. Shaheed
TE: T. McBride, H. Henry, M. Gesicki, C. Okonkwo, J. Woods
K: T. Bass
D/ST: Jacksonville, Indianapolis
2024 Picks: 2.7, 3.2, 4.11
1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 1TE, 2Flex (W/R/T), 1K, 1DST
QB: P. Mahomes, R. Tannehill
RB: D. Achane, D. Henry, J. Mixon, A. Ekeler, M. Sanders
WR: T. Hill, D. Smith, D. J. Moore, D. Samuel, T. Higgins, D. Hopkins, O. Beckham, D. Wicks, J. Metchie
TE: T. Kelce, C. Kmet, H. Henry, M. Gesicki
K: J. Tucker
D/ST: Baltimore, Jacksonville
2024 Picks: 4.9
12 Team .5 PPR, 6pt TDs
1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 1TE, 3Flex (W/R/T), 1K, 1DST
QB: J. Love, J. Herbert
RB: S. Barkley, J. Cook, I. Pacheco, Br. Robinson, D. Singletary, D. Pierce
WR: D. J. Moore, J. Waddle, Z. Flowers, T. Higgins, C. Watson, J. Downs, J. Dotson, R. Shaheed
TE: T. McBride, H. Henry, M. Gesicki, C. Okonkwo, J. Woods
K: T. Bass
D/ST: Jacksonville, Indianapolis
2024 Picks: 2.7, 3.2, 4.11
Re: All Things Bears
Dr.Graffin wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:34 am With the way they are stacking the offense, this doesn't feel to me like the moves you make for a rookie QB. Is it possible the Bears are setting up a trade for a more established vet QB instead of taking Williams?
i don't. who are you going to go after? dak? kyler? i just don't see any big names moving.
12 Team, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1Flex, D, K, 10 Bench
1PPR, 0.5 point per carry.
Burrow, Richardson
AJ Brown, DJMoore, G Wilson, T Higgens, Sutton, Tillman, Melton
King Henry, Bijan, Pacheco, Mixon, Ford, JK
Hockenson, Musgrave
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1PPR, 0.5 point per carry.
Burrow, Richardson
AJ Brown, DJMoore, G Wilson, T Higgens, Sutton, Tillman, Melton
King Henry, Bijan, Pacheco, Mixon, Ford, JK
Hockenson, Musgrave
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Re: All Things Bears
Well the Bears D is strong, if we can get a Stroud-like 1st season out of the offense, i would say mission accomplished for 2024. tall ask i know.81- wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:38 amDr.Graffin wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:34 am With the way they are stacking the offense, this doesn't feel to me like the moves you make for a rookie QB. Is it possible the Bears are setting up a trade for a more established vet QB instead of taking Williams?
i don't. who are you going to go after? dak? kyler? i just don't see any big names moving.
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1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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Re: All Things Bears
No GM who needs a QB has the stones to pass on Caleb Williams at #1. This is going to be as predictable as everyone has been saying for 3 years now.Dr.Graffin wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:34 am With the way they are stacking the offense, this doesn't feel to me like the moves you make for a rookie QB. Is it possible the Bears are setting up a trade for a more established vet QB instead of taking Williams?
Re: All Things Bears
Fields is available....81- wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:38 amDr.Graffin wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:34 am With the way they are stacking the offense, this doesn't feel to me like the moves you make for a rookie QB. Is it possible the Bears are setting up a trade for a more established vet QB instead of taking Williams?
i don't. who are you going to go after? dak? kyler? i just don't see any big names moving.
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Big namesValhalla wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:28 amFields is available....81- wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:38 amDr.Graffin wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:34 am With the way they are stacking the offense, this doesn't feel to me like the moves you make for a rookie QB. Is it possible the Bears are setting up a trade for a more established vet QB instead of taking Williams?
i don't. who are you going to go after? dak? kyler? i just don't see any big names moving.
12 Team, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1Flex, D, K, 10 Bench
1PPR, 0.5 point per carry.
Burrow, Richardson
AJ Brown, DJMoore, G Wilson, T Higgens, Sutton, Tillman, Melton
King Henry, Bijan, Pacheco, Mixon, Ford, JK
Hockenson, Musgrave
Random Kicker
Niners
Picks in 2024 - #15, #22, #23, #27
1PPR, 0.5 point per carry.
Burrow, Richardson
AJ Brown, DJMoore, G Wilson, T Higgens, Sutton, Tillman, Melton
King Henry, Bijan, Pacheco, Mixon, Ford, JK
Hockenson, Musgrave
Random Kicker
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Re: All Things Bears
These are -exactly- the moves you make for a rookie QB on a cost-controlled salary.Dr.Graffin wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:34 am With the way they are stacking the offense, this doesn't feel to me like the moves you make for a rookie QB. Is it possible the Bears are setting up a trade for a more established vet QB instead of taking Williams?
Recall the Burrow/Tua/Herbert draft. The QB we were immediately sold on the most, 5 games into the season - was Herbert, playing with a stacked Chargers supporting cast. Burrow was up and down, and they drafted Chase for him the next year. Tua... well...
The #1 pick is an -enormous- outlay of capital; any high 1st spent on a QB is. You should do everything in your power to make sure that it doesn't become a sunk-cost bust. As a GM interested in keeping your job and having success: you need that #1 pick to succeed, and you should help them do that in every way you can.
This is Poles doing that.
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