Back end of round 2 in a 12 team superflex 5 point passing td with 3 point 300 yard bonus, 100 yard receiving/rushing bonus 1/2 point ppr. 1.25 ppr for TE.
After locking up the elite qb in round 1, Curious if people would prefer to build around a qb like stroud who appears to be the likely best available at this point, start the run on TE with pitts with a solid TEP, WRs in the range of Smith, Devonta, higgins, JSN etc or consider a RB like JT if still available. I do typically stay away from RBs in the first couple of rounds at this point to not lock myself into win now mode at such an early round but could appreciate any feedback.
Thanks again.
Cj Stroud vs Pitts, elite RBs, WRs
Cj Stroud vs Pitts, elite RBs, WRs
12 team Superflex, 1/2 point PPR, 1 point TEP, Start 11 spots
QB: D Watson, J hurts., T. Lance, S. howell
RB: Bijan, B Hall, J. Gibbs, A kamara, J. Ford, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell
WR: J. Chase, G. wilson, C. Watson, J. Dotson, , R. shaheed, C. austin, T. Scott, T. Tucker
TE: P. Freurmuth, J. Johnson, C. otton, T. Kraft
QB: D Watson, J hurts., T. Lance, S. howell
RB: Bijan, B Hall, J. Gibbs, A kamara, J. Ford, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell
WR: J. Chase, G. wilson, C. Watson, J. Dotson, , R. shaheed, C. austin, T. Scott, T. Tucker
TE: P. Freurmuth, J. Johnson, C. otton, T. Kraft
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Re: Cj Stroud vs Pitts, elite RBs, WRs
Taylor, Pitts (in the format) and Smith are all better options than Stroud. Stroud has very limited rushing ability which is a major issue in fantasy now.
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Re: Cj Stroud vs Pitts, elite RBs, WRs
To best address this, I'd take into account starting requirements (which would affect the trade market, once the draft is done) and roster sizes (which will dictate waiver wire strength). I've also heard of capping positional rostering limitations (like no more than 4 QBs in SF, or max of 3 TEs in TEP), so that'd be important to know, too.
Given the info in the OP, I'm passing on a WR early 2nd. In fact, I'd be more likely to push for a trade down over the options listed.
Given the info in the OP, I'm passing on a WR early 2nd. In fact, I'd be more likely to push for a trade down over the options listed.
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def
Re: Cj Stroud vs Pitts, elite RBs, WRs
Thank you for the response, to answer your question, there are no limits on any positions and it is 11 starting spots total with no kicker/defensePullo Vision wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:42 pm To best address this, I'd take into account starting requirements (which would affect the trade market, once the draft is done) and roster sizes (which will dictate waiver wire strength). I've also heard of capping positional rostering limitations (like no more than 4 QBs in SF, or max of 3 TEs in TEP), so that'd be important to know, too.
Given the info in the OP, I'm passing on a WR early 2nd. In fact, I'd be more likely to push for a trade down over the options listed.
12 team Superflex, 1/2 point PPR, 1 point TEP, Start 11 spots
QB: D Watson, J hurts., T. Lance, S. howell
RB: Bijan, B Hall, J. Gibbs, A kamara, J. Ford, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell
WR: J. Chase, G. wilson, C. Watson, J. Dotson, , R. shaheed, C. austin, T. Scott, T. Tucker
TE: P. Freurmuth, J. Johnson, C. otton, T. Kraft
QB: D Watson, J hurts., T. Lance, S. howell
RB: Bijan, B Hall, J. Gibbs, A kamara, J. Ford, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell
WR: J. Chase, G. wilson, C. Watson, J. Dotson, , R. shaheed, C. austin, T. Scott, T. Tucker
TE: P. Freurmuth, J. Johnson, C. otton, T. Kraft
Re: Cj Stroud vs Pitts, elite RBs, WRs
Stroud. If he earns the starting role, I think at worst we're looking at a Goff/Cousins like fantasy producer. Maybe not his rookie season, but with a couple of good receivers added, Stroud has the makeup to be a consistently good passer. And all signs currently indicate Stroud will be Houston's QB for years. In SF, that outcome would be great.
OTOH, Pitts has to become Kelce to justify picking him this early. I'd much rather wait 2 or 3 rounds and go for Goedert/Hock/Muth/etc.
I'm definitely passing on those WRs if a QB like Stroud is available.
What other QBs are available at this time? If the supply is running low (meaning that by your next pick the options will be a lot worse) that's all the more reason to jump on the opportunity to get Stroud now.
OTOH, Pitts has to become Kelce to justify picking him this early. I'd much rather wait 2 or 3 rounds and go for Goedert/Hock/Muth/etc.
I'm definitely passing on those WRs if a QB like Stroud is available.
What other QBs are available at this time? If the supply is running low (meaning that by your next pick the options will be a lot worse) that's all the more reason to jump on the opportunity to get Stroud now.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver, Waller
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver, Waller
2023 semifinals loser
Re: Cj Stroud vs Pitts, elite RBs, WRs
It's definitely not JT for me. If you do take JT I think it pretty much dictates the rest of your draft - you need to try to contend ASAP. Plus any RB taken this high is very risky. Last year at this time folks would have been considering Najee at that place in a start-up. Yikes!
I think you take Stroud. I'm with Anteaters that the floor is pretty high. I don't see a Jake Locker level bust when I look at Stroud. He's a very accurate passer. But I'd be interested to know what other QBs are available and how many picks there are before your round 3 selection. I want the end of a tier of players not the beginning (if possible).
I think you take Stroud. I'm with Anteaters that the floor is pretty high. I don't see a Jake Locker level bust when I look at Stroud. He's a very accurate passer. But I'd be interested to know what other QBs are available and how many picks there are before your round 3 selection. I want the end of a tier of players not the beginning (if possible).
Re: Cj Stroud vs Pitts, elite RBs, WRs
look at TStaff throwing out a Locker Reference! his last sentence is 100% words to live by.tstafford wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:54 am It's definitely not JT for me. If you do take JT I think it pretty much dictates the rest of your draft - you need to try to contend ASAP. Plus any RB taken this high is very risky. Last year at this time folks would have been considering Najee at that place in a start-up. Yikes!
I think you take Stroud. I'm with Anteaters that the floor is pretty high. I don't see a Jake Locker level bust when I look at Stroud. He's a very accurate passer. But I'd be interested to know what other QBs are available and how many picks there are before your round 3 selection. I want the end of a tier of players not the beginning (if possible).
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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Re: Cj Stroud vs Pitts, elite RBs, WRs
im not building my dynasty team around stroud, take something very proven with pick 2 sir. wasnt long ago people took baker darnold wilson and lance with these types of decisions, its easily avoidable.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
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Re: Cj Stroud vs Pitts, elite RBs, WRs
you could still go super young and have a 24 year old rb or trade him to a win now team. getting locked into win now 2 picks in isnt the way in my opinion.tstafford wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:54 am It's definitely not JT for me. If you do take JT I think it pretty much dictates the rest of your draft - you need to try to contend ASAP. Plus any RB taken this high is very risky. Last year at this time folks would have been considering Najee at that place in a start-up. Yikes!
I think you take Stroud. I'm with Anteaters that the floor is pretty high. I don't see a Jake Locker level bust when I look at Stroud. He's a very accurate passer. But I'd be interested to know what other QBs are available and how many picks there are before your round 3 selection. I want the end of a tier of players not the beginning (if possible).
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
Re: Cj Stroud vs Pitts, elite RBs, WRs
Trade down! That’s easily the best option
Stroud is a reach here, he’s not going in the 2nd in most drafts and shouldn’t be… Kyler gone? I like him beater in the early 3rd but like him way more than stroud…
Taylor is the best value listed but I definitely understand not wanting to go rb. If you plan on competing take him, if you want to go young, I say again trade back! If you can’t, go young wr, but it’s not a great spot if those are the ones available.
Have I mentioned trading back???
Stroud is a reach here, he’s not going in the 2nd in most drafts and shouldn’t be… Kyler gone? I like him beater in the early 3rd but like him way more than stroud…
Taylor is the best value listed but I definitely understand not wanting to go rb. If you plan on competing take him, if you want to go young, I say again trade back! If you can’t, go young wr, but it’s not a great spot if those are the ones available.
Have I mentioned trading back???
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