Trade offer: JJ for Chase

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Trade offer: JJ for Chase

Postby ravn88 » Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:38 am

Hello.

Im in a non ppr SF league.
I have an offer for my Chase for JJ.

What is the pros and cons for this deal ?

League info
Jefferson made 261 points last year
Chase made 163 point last year
I own Burrow aswell.
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ :thumbup: 2020 third place

QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon

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Re: Trade offer: JJ for Chase

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:42 am

Jefferson is the better player and asset overall. I don't think either side adds but I prefer Jefferson straight up every time. The one con, is QB long term. Burrow is much safer with Chase.

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Re: Trade offer: JJ for Chase

Postby TheTroll » Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:47 am

They are I. The same tier. Wondering what inspiration one would have in a 1:1 swap
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Trade offer: JJ for Chase

Postby Gazzerk » Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:16 am

I prefer Chase for the slight (very slight) age difference and the QB security. Chase is every bit as good as JJ. He just had some injury trouble last season. JJ is amazing and you can’t go wrong either way but fun to my head I’m taking Chase. I was approached about a JJ/Chase swap and I turned it down.
Team:14 Team Dynasty 1/2 PPR Unlimited Keepers 2IR
Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
QB - Mahomes, Caleb Williams
RB - Bijan, Najee, Mostert, Chase Brown, Jaylen Wright, Abanikanda
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, Odunze, JSN, Jameson Williams, Downs, QJ, Pearsall
TE - Andrews, Kelce, Bowers
K- Butker
Def- Chiefs

Picks:
2025 1st, 2 3rds
2026 1st, 3rd
2027 1st, 2nd, 3rd

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Re: Trade offer: JJ for Chase

Postby dblj1199 » Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:30 am

It's all preferences here really. They are wr 1 a and 1 b as far as dynasty. The only slight edge goes to Chase with a elite qb with him where JJ has no set franchise qb with him. I have JJ so I prefer him.
2015, 2017, 2022 Champ.
10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP


Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker

draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Trade offer: JJ for Chase

Postby HughHoney » Sun Jul 09, 2023 4:55 pm

I prefer Chase but they are essentially equal.

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Re: Trade offer: JJ for Chase

Postby 24FlavorsofFun » Mon Jul 10, 2023 8:37 am

I prefer JJ, but owning Chase/Burrow is great. I'd stay they course with that.
Fig Newtons - 12 team superflex .5 ppr, qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, te, Flex, SF
QB - Dak, Brissett, Purdy
RB - Najee, Swift, J.Robinson, D.Henderson, McKinnon,
WR - M.Thomas, D.Hop, DJ Moore, Miller, G.Davis, MVS
TE - Kittle, Gesicki, Hockenson
Picks: 2023 - 1, 2, 2, 3, 4

Young Newts - 14 team .25 ppr Superflex, qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, te, wr/rb, OP
QB - Allen, Wilson, Cousins
RB - Chubb, L.Bell, Ingram, K.Johnson, Mack, T.Coleman
WR - M.Thomas, OBJ, Woods, Moore, Godwin, R.Anderson
TE - Gesicki, Witten, Irv
Picks: 2022 - 3, 4, 5


DirkaDirka - 12 team PPR Superflex
QB: Mayfield, Allen, M.Ryan, Bridgewater, Mond
RB: Mixon, Swift, Sanders, Ekeler, DJ, Kerryon
WR: Tyreek, A.Cooper, D.Adams, A-Rob, C.Davis, P.Williams, V.Jefferson, Duverney
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Hollister
2022: All picks

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Re: Trade offer: JJ for Chase

Postby PPE82 » Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:33 pm

I don’t understand how JJ=Chase. JJ comfortably > Chase for me.
Team 1
12 Team, SF, PPR, TEP (2PPR)
1-2QB, 2-6RB, 2-6WR, 1-5TE
10 starters, 28 roster spots


Kyler Murray, Rudolph, Brissett, Brady
Keaton Mitchell, scrubs
Jefferson, Lamb, Waddle, DeVonta Smith, Rashee Rice, Christian Watson, Dotson, Josh Palmer, Rashid Shaheed, Toney, Justyn Ross, Metchie, Ronnie Bell
Pitts, Likely
2024 Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 2.06, 2.09, 4.02, 4.12

Team 2
12 Team, SF, PPR, TEP (2PPR)
1-2QB, 2-5RB, 3-6WR, 1-4TE
10 starters, 28 roster spots


Lawrence, Caleb Williams, Richardson, Young, Mac Jones, Lance, Jordan Travis
Bijan, Charbonnet, Braelon Allen, Estime, Bucky Irving, Strong Jr., Davis-Price, Tyler Goodson, Kevin Harris
Wilson, Nacua, Odunze, Thomas Jr., Flowers, Downs, Wicks, Renfrow, Ross, Bell, Metchie
Pitts, Bowers, Woods
2025 Picks: 1-4 (mine)

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Re: Trade offer: JJ for Chase

Postby PPE82 » Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:34 pm

I don’t understand how JJ=Chase. JJ comfortably > Chase for me.
Team 1
12 Team, SF, PPR, TEP (2PPR)
1-2QB, 2-6RB, 2-6WR, 1-5TE
10 starters, 28 roster spots


Kyler Murray, Rudolph, Brissett, Brady
Keaton Mitchell, scrubs
Jefferson, Lamb, Waddle, DeVonta Smith, Rashee Rice, Christian Watson, Dotson, Josh Palmer, Rashid Shaheed, Toney, Justyn Ross, Metchie, Ronnie Bell
Pitts, Likely
2024 Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 2.06, 2.09, 4.02, 4.12

Team 2
12 Team, SF, PPR, TEP (2PPR)
1-2QB, 2-5RB, 3-6WR, 1-4TE
10 starters, 28 roster spots


Lawrence, Caleb Williams, Richardson, Young, Mac Jones, Lance, Jordan Travis
Bijan, Charbonnet, Braelon Allen, Estime, Bucky Irving, Strong Jr., Davis-Price, Tyler Goodson, Kevin Harris
Wilson, Nacua, Odunze, Thomas Jr., Flowers, Downs, Wicks, Renfrow, Ross, Bell, Metchie
Pitts, Bowers, Woods
2025 Picks: 1-4 (mine)

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Re: Trade offer: JJ for Chase

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:23 am

JJ is better today but your trade partner is thinking what’s going to happen when Cousins moves on…

I personally don’t see how anyone could think they are equal in a 5 year window with JJ’s qb concerns over that time. As long as Cousins stays I would prefer JJ but that’s not the vibe I get in Minnesota
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

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Re: Trade offer: JJ for Chase

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:29 am

chase for me i wouldnt break up that duo unless there was incentive to do so
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Trade offer: JJ for Chase

Postby Payton34 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 4:50 pm

TheTroll wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:47 am They are I. The same tier. Wondering what inspiration one would have in a 1:1 swap
The inspiration is boredom. I see it all the time!
12 teams, 6pts all TDs, 1/2 pt PPR. 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1K, 1D, 2 FLEX RB/WR/TE

QBs - P Mahomes,
RBs - Bijan, J Jacobs, K Walker, B Hall,
WRs - AJ Brown, J Waddle, DJ Moore, T Higgins, D London, Smith-Njigba, J Downs, AT Perry
TEs - D Kincaid, Musgrave
Ks - Boswell, McPherson
Ds - Texans, Jets

2024 - 3 1st rounders... Picks 1.5, 1.7, 1.11… 1 2nd 2.17… 1 3rd 3.31…

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Re: Trade offer: JJ for Chase

Postby ravn88 » Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:52 am

I have made a deal, than I acceptet right away.

I have sent Burrow + Chase

For

Josh Allen and JJ

Allen has outscored Burrow in every season in the same or less games, and JJ has done the same.

Even though I love my Duo, I think the new duo I better.
Then there is a long term gamble with JJ, but im willing to take that bet, now that I get Josh Allen aswell.
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ :thumbup: 2020 third place

QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon

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Re: Trade offer: JJ for Chase

Postby murphysxm » Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:00 am

ravn88 wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:52 am I have made a deal, than I acceptet right away.

I have sent Burrow + Chase

For

Josh Allen and JJ

Allen has outscored Burrow in every season in the same or less games, and JJ has done the same.

Even though I love my Duo, I think the new duo I better.
Then there is a long term gamble with JJ, but im willing to take that bet, now that I get Josh Allen aswell.
Your team, glad you are happy. I am admittedly a huge Chase fan, but I see Chase and Burrow much safer over the next 5 years. I would not have broken that up
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts

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Re: Trade offer: JJ for Chase

Postby ravn88 » Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:16 am

murphysxm wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:00 am
ravn88 wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:52 am I have made a deal, than I acceptet right away.

I have sent Burrow + Chase

For

Josh Allen and JJ

Allen has outscored Burrow in every season in the same or less games, and JJ has done the same.

Even though I love my Duo, I think the new duo I better.
Then there is a long term gamble with JJ, but im willing to take that bet, now that I get Josh Allen aswell.
Your team, glad you are happy. I am admittedly a huge Chase fan, but I see Chase and Burrow much safer over the next 5 years. I would not have broken that up
I am too a big fan of both.
But, I cannot look past Chase numbers vs JJ numbers when chase had Burrow and JJ had Cousins.

I think Josh Allen will outscore Burrow the comming years (unless injurey happens) and I think JJ will at least have the same points as chase the next few years
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ :thumbup: 2020 third place

QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon


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