So am I wrong in thinking this was a smash accept? I already accepted but did I mess up?
I Give: DK, & Perine
I Get: C.Kupp, 24 2nd & 2 24 3rds
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SMASH ACCEPT
SMASH ACCEPT
10 Team Non-PPR league. 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1K, 1 DEF (Return Yds *25 yds per 1pt & Ret TD's only count for the player)
QB: J.Allen, T.Tagovailoa, H. Hooker
RB: J.Taylor, T.Etienne, N.Harris, J.Conner, Z.Charbonnet, K.Miller, D.Johnson, D.Vaugn, R.Stevenson, J.K. Dobbins, E.Hull, K.Mitchell
WR: C.Kupp, J.Waddle, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, J.Reed, Z.Flowers, Jameson, J.Dotson
TE: S.LaPorta, D.Kincaid
K: J. Tucker
DEF: BAL,
2024 1st
2024 1st
2020 League CHAMPION!!
2023 League CHAMPION!!
QB: J.Allen, T.Tagovailoa, H. Hooker
RB: J.Taylor, T.Etienne, N.Harris, J.Conner, Z.Charbonnet, K.Miller, D.Johnson, D.Vaugn, R.Stevenson, J.K. Dobbins, E.Hull, K.Mitchell
WR: C.Kupp, J.Waddle, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, J.Reed, Z.Flowers, Jameson, J.Dotson
TE: S.LaPorta, D.Kincaid
K: J. Tucker
DEF: BAL,
2024 1st
2024 1st
2020 League CHAMPION!!
2023 League CHAMPION!!
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Re: SMASH ACCEPT
I'm not sure why it'd be a smash accept. I'd have declined it. While it may be decent value for Perine (a future 2nd), I tend to look at future 3rds as somewhat value-less...Yes they have value, but shouldn't sway a deal of this magnitude.
So in the end, it's DK for Kupp. That's not a deal I'd make in anything other than a redraft league, but I guess if you viewed Kupp as elite and DK as a pretender...then I guess it's okay value at best, but definitely not a smash accept.
In short, I'd pass on this deal.
So in the end, it's DK for Kupp. That's not a deal I'd make in anything other than a redraft league, but I guess if you viewed Kupp as elite and DK as a pretender...then I guess it's okay value at best, but definitely not a smash accept.
In short, I'd pass on this deal.
12 Team Non-PPR, 6pt TDs-22' R/U, 23' R/U
1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 1TE, 2Flex (W/R/T), 1K, 1DST
QB: P. Mahomes, T. Tagovailoa
RB: D. Swift, D. Henry, J. Mixon, A. Ekeler, M. Sanders
WR: T. Hill, D. J. Moore, D. Samuel, D. Smith, T. Higgins, D. Hopkins, D. Wicks, J. Metchie, C. Claypool
TE: T. Kelce, C. Kmet, H. Henry, M. Gesicki, T. Kraft
K: J. Tucker
D/ST: Baltimore, Jacksonville
Taxi Squad: R. Ali, F. Gore Jr., J. Cowing, C. Johnson
12 Team .5 PPR, 6pt TDs
1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 1TE, 3Flex (W/R/T), 1K, 1DST
QB: J. Love, J. Herbert
RB: S. Barkley, I. Pacheco, D. Singletary, D. Pierce, E. Gray
WR: A. J. Brown, C. Olave, J. Waddle, D. J. Moore, T. Higgins, C. Watson, J. Downs, J. Dotson, R. Shaheed, A. T. Perry
TE: T. McBride, H. Henry, M. Gesicki, C. Okonkwo
K: T. Bass
D/ST: Jacksonville, Indianapolis
Taxi Squad: R. Pearsall, B. Corum, D. Laube
1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 1TE, 2Flex (W/R/T), 1K, 1DST
QB: P. Mahomes, T. Tagovailoa
RB: D. Swift, D. Henry, J. Mixon, A. Ekeler, M. Sanders
WR: T. Hill, D. J. Moore, D. Samuel, D. Smith, T. Higgins, D. Hopkins, D. Wicks, J. Metchie, C. Claypool
TE: T. Kelce, C. Kmet, H. Henry, M. Gesicki, T. Kraft
K: J. Tucker
D/ST: Baltimore, Jacksonville
Taxi Squad: R. Ali, F. Gore Jr., J. Cowing, C. Johnson
12 Team .5 PPR, 6pt TDs
1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 1TE, 3Flex (W/R/T), 1K, 1DST
QB: J. Love, J. Herbert
RB: S. Barkley, I. Pacheco, D. Singletary, D. Pierce, E. Gray
WR: A. J. Brown, C. Olave, J. Waddle, D. J. Moore, T. Higgins, C. Watson, J. Downs, J. Dotson, R. Shaheed, A. T. Perry
TE: T. McBride, H. Henry, M. Gesicki, C. Okonkwo
K: T. Bass
D/ST: Jacksonville, Indianapolis
Taxi Squad: R. Pearsall, B. Corum, D. Laube
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Re: SMASH ACCEPT
Long term the best piece is still Metcalf but if you are all in, I think Kupp helps you more now. Metcalf still has his up and down games. Kupp when healthy has been a different level fantasy WR.
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Re: SMASH ACCEPT
It’s fair
Re: SMASH ACCEPT
Well I love other's perspective, so I appreciate that thought. I am trying to contend this year, so figured Kupp was an upgrade over DK and the 2nd for Perine is fine due to Perine being a placeholder later in the year when you need him he may not be there just my take. Kupp is a beast when healthy and gives me that top 5 WR I was missing to contend.Dr.Graffin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2023 4:06 pm I'm not sure why it'd be a smash accept. I'd have declined it. While it may be decent value for Perine (a future 2nd), I tend to look at future 3rds as somewhat value-less...Yes they have value, but shouldn't sway a deal of this magnitude.
So in the end, it's DK for Kupp. That's not a deal I'd make in anything other than a redraft league, but I guess if you viewed Kupp as elite and DK as a pretender...then I guess it's okay value at best, but definitely not a smash accept.
In short, I'd pass on this deal.
I agree long term is DK over Kupp, but being all in Kupp will help more now. Also if you look at the other WRs I have I think another can break out. I feel it helps me contend and stay young with other deals that I have made.Gator Sens wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2023 4:49 pm Long term the best piece is still Metcalf but if you are all in, I think Kupp helps you more now. Metcalf still has his up and down games. Kupp when healthy has been a different level fantasy WR.
Thank you all for the feedback
10 Team Non-PPR league. 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1K, 1 DEF (Return Yds *25 yds per 1pt & Ret TD's only count for the player)
QB: J.Allen, T.Tagovailoa, H. Hooker
RB: J.Taylor, T.Etienne, N.Harris, J.Conner, Z.Charbonnet, K.Miller, D.Johnson, D.Vaugn, R.Stevenson, J.K. Dobbins, E.Hull, K.Mitchell
WR: C.Kupp, J.Waddle, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, J.Reed, Z.Flowers, Jameson, J.Dotson
TE: S.LaPorta, D.Kincaid
K: J. Tucker
DEF: BAL,
2024 1st
2024 1st
2020 League CHAMPION!!
2023 League CHAMPION!!
QB: J.Allen, T.Tagovailoa, H. Hooker
RB: J.Taylor, T.Etienne, N.Harris, J.Conner, Z.Charbonnet, K.Miller, D.Johnson, D.Vaugn, R.Stevenson, J.K. Dobbins, E.Hull, K.Mitchell
WR: C.Kupp, J.Waddle, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, J.Reed, Z.Flowers, Jameson, J.Dotson
TE: S.LaPorta, D.Kincaid
K: J. Tucker
DEF: BAL,
2024 1st
2024 1st
2020 League CHAMPION!!
2023 League CHAMPION!!
Re: SMASH ACCEPT
I'd prefer the DK side by a decent margin.
Re: SMASH ACCEPT
DK side here for me too.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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Re: SMASH ACCEPT
I prefer DK, TBH. I am just not sure when the cliff comes for Kupp, AND Stafford. Kupp was awesome last year, but got hurt. I just feel like Metcalf is safer.
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Re: SMASH ACCEPT
I can see the appeal of kupp in a ten teamer, but the uncertainty with Stafford makes this dk and perine for me
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
Re: SMASH ACCEPT
The value is fine. Good return on Perine. If Kupp is your guy, then he can definitely lead you to a title. Time will tell. I wouldn’t fret on any remorse given the feedback. Go get that title.
Re: SMASH ACCEPT
Helps you contend and looks like it helps your trade partner long term. Definitely not smash accept for anyone, if you mean one sided either way.
Most rosters i'd prefer DK side, but Kupp can be a major piece for a contender.
Most rosters i'd prefer DK side, but Kupp can be a major piece for a contender.
Re: SMASH ACCEPT
DK / Perine are close here. Kupp in a all in, he should still be a top wr for the next year or two, but it comes with issues. The o-line in LA is one of the worst in the league and if Stafford goes out it kills his value. BUT it they hold on he could be wr 1 at years end. But both DK and Perine both have question marks. Can Geno repeat, how much does JSN cut into his production. When does Williams come back, how will the carries be split. All in give me Kupp. Long term DK side.
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Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker
draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker
draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
Re: SMASH ACCEPT
Prefer the Kupp side in a shallow format (10 team 9 offensive players), seems like a pretty even deal.
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Re: SMASH ACCEPT
I'm sure by now you can tell that most people would have declined the trade so saying it was a smash accept seems to be the wrong thinking...
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Re: SMASH ACCEPT
Smash accept for the OTHER guy maybeyellowdart2448 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:16 am I'm sure by now you can tell that most people would have declined the trade so saying it was a smash accept seems to be the wrong thinking...