Personally, I love the player and I think there's pretty much not a safer "non-Bijan" selection out of the "big 6" in Superflex leagues. I'm sitting at 1.04 in my main league with an outrageous contender that doesn't need any one position - and I've been really struggling going back and forth between Gibbs, JSN, and the QB's (Young/Stroud - as a pure "value" play). I'm square in my window as the favourite, so I'm leaning with one of the Skill Guys in an effort to add another "difference maker" to push for the 'ship - and I've found myself leaning JSN some weeks... I feel like we've almost forgotten how ridiculously good this guy was just a scant 1.5 years ago.
I was going to reply in the Addison thread, but this is a better path. Ladies and Gentleman: let's talk JSN.
To the people that think JSN is a "slot only" player - why? Are we sure that limiting him to that box is correct, just because it's all he's shown us "so far" in one massive year whilst playing alongside literally 2 of the best outside WR's in the world?FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 9:53 amHe's my WR1, and agree he runs good routes, but did the NFL forget? He went at 20, 1 spot ahead of the next WR. The NFL didn't see a gap between he and the next group of WR's. He's a slot only player, IMO. At least, for the most part, and some of these other guys aren't, so different strokes.murphysxm wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 5:37 amJSN is going to have a lot of people shaking their heads wondering why they downgraded him based on forgetting how elite he runs routes because they haven't seen it for a year.Kurt G.O.A.T. wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 1:41 am JSN just looks to be in a different stratosphere compared to other wrs in this draft.
he just looks more explosive to add to his crisp route running. i wouldn't pick another wr over him.
I think there's a very good chance Addison outproduces JSN this year, due to scheme, and situation. I wouldn't take Addison over him if I had the choice, but I honestly wouldn't trade that much to move up 1 spot to get JSN over him either.
He's going to be best inside, but there's no doubt in my mind he can be serviceable outside, too. And what if there's even more hiding there? We just don't know yet, because we can't. It's still a projection... for a guy we already agree is the rookie WR1, based on what he's already done. What if there's more here?
You know who else thinks he can play outside and be more than just "slot only"? Jaxon Smith-Njigba. Take a listen.
There's another 6'1 200lb 4.4x WR I can think of that played exclusively "big slot" in college alongside a future elite outside WR. I remember writing him off as "just a slot player" back then, too - and fading Justin Jefferson was a lesson I took as "hard learned". We just don't know yet.
For a WR as good at running routes as JSN, I don't think we should be projecting his ceiling outcome as "Slot Only" when we consider the prospect. Even if he does only deliver on what we've already seen (him dominating as an elite slot) then there is still an awesome path there based on the new-school NFL game with other elite inside guys like Kupp and ARSB. That tape is out there; any good OC knows how to scheme those plays in 2023. JSN profiles as potentially that special, but maybe even more... in nearly every way, he's rock-solid. We need to price in more unknown upside, imo - because not being able to play outside on a team with Olave and Garrett Wilson shouldn't be taken as a knock - especially when he out-produced them to the level that he did.
We can have it the other way here too, though. For those with questions about how he's going to match up against NFL #1 Corners "because he was getting covered by RB's and future special teamers" in college... like... when? When will he have to do that?Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 4:43 pm Worth remembering that JSN was a five-star HS recruit in the same class as Jordan Addison (also a five-star). Obviously, that means nothing directly towards his NFL prospects, but it's not like he was this random bench player who came out of nowhere and started producing because of Olave and Wilson. Ohio State just had an embarassment of riches in the WR room and no team in the nation has three NFL-level corners to throw against them.
We just didn't get to see JSN play alone for a meaningful enough sample size. But, there's no reason on tape to believe he couldn't handle primary coverage.
The future in Seattle is DK and JSN.
If teams are already taking their best CB off of DK Metcalf and putting them on JSN going forward at any point, then we'll already have our answer.
Until that happens? He's going to feast, just like Addison is going to feast, against the 2nd-best (or even 3rd best in his early career) Corner - every game. Time and again, we've seen it - the only knock on JSN is his long speed - but you don't need elite long speed to be an effective outside WR. Just ask our 4.43 6'1 200lb WR King of the known WR Universe, Justin Jefferson.
That is why I think there is possibly no safer pick after Bijan that you can make in this draft. Thankyou for coming to my Ted Talk, inshallah.