Tillman offer in New Orphan Superflex

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Tillman offer in New Orphan Superflex

Postby wickerkat1212 » Fri May 19, 2023 4:40 pm

12-man, 1 ppr new Supeflex, we start qb-rb-rb-wr-wr-wr-te-superflex-flex-flex.

So, I was trying to move some players to improve my TE room in my new Superflex (team in signature) as my TE room is TERRIBLE. No luck. Then the guy with a TON of TEs (we can start 1-5 TEs FWIW) expressed interest in Tillman. I just got him for a 3rd (a steal IMO) and I really like him.

Is it worth it to move Tillman for a couple of his TEs to improve my TE room?

Currently, my TEs are:

Ferguson
Hooper

That's it. I cut the crappy other guys to free up room for the WW as it opens up in early June.

His TEs are:

Ertz, Zach ARI - old but still decent, way better than anything on my roster
Gray, Noah KCC - buried behind Kelce
Hill, Taysom NOS - meh
Kmet, Cole CHI - own a few shares, will he ever do anything? IDK
Likely, Isaiah BAL - bit of a flier IMO
McBride, Trey ARI - supposedly one of the best in his rookie class?
Okonkwo, Chigoziem TEN - heated up end of the year

Would you move Tillman for TWO of Ertz/McBride/Okonkwo? I like Tillman more than going straight up for one of these guys. I'd do it for Kincaid, Mayer, or LaPorta but they aren't options here.

Thoughts? THANKS!
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Tillman offer in New Orphan Superflex

Postby LMS123 » Fri May 19, 2023 4:45 pm

If you could get McBride and Okonkwo I would for sure, chig I would do straight up for Tillman
Jake Fromm State Farm (12 team PPR SF)
QB: Purdy, ARich (TS), Levis (TS), Bagent, Hall, Rudolph, Fromm
RB: Roschon (TS), Allgeier, Hill, Demercado, McLaughlin, Mitchell, K. Harris, E. Wilson
WR: Addison, London, Jmo, Shaheed, Reed (TS), Pop D, Iosivas, C. Jones, Mooney, T. Palmer, Scott, Tucker, Austin, Gipson, Melton,
TE: Musgrave, Mayer (TS), Trautman, Gray, Jordan
2024: 1.01, 1.07, 2.04, 2.10, 2.11, 3.01, 3.06, 3.07, 3.11
2025: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4

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Re: Tillman offer in New Orphan Superflex

Postby Gator Sens » Fri May 19, 2023 5:18 pm

LMS123 wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 4:45 pm If you could get McBride and Okonkwo I would for sure, chig I would do straight up for Tillman
I like Okonkwo for Tillman as well. Both are a gamble but Okonkwo showed he has the skills and WRs are easier to replace.

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Re: Tillman offer in New Orphan Superflex

Postby TheTroll » Fri May 19, 2023 6:02 pm

Definitely McBride, then it comes down to either Kmet or Chig
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Tillman offer in New Orphan Superflex

Postby wickerkat1212 » Fri May 19, 2023 6:39 pm

TheTroll wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 6:02 pm Definitely McBride, then it comes down to either Kmet or Chig
Thanks!
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Tillman offer in New Orphan Superflex

Postby bigbuck22 » Fri May 19, 2023 8:06 pm

I think you'll be lucky to get Chig or McBride for Tillman.
Fwiw, I was recently turned down in an effort to get Chig... offered J Palmer (similar to Tillman imo) straight up and Shaheed/Otton for Chig.

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Re: Tillman offer in New Orphan Superflex

Postby wickerkat1212 » Fri May 19, 2023 8:38 pm

bigbuck22 wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 8:06 pm I think you'll be lucky to get Chig or McBride for Tillman.
Fwiw, I was recently turned down in an effort to get Chig... offered J Palmer (similar to Tillman imo) straight up and Shaheed/Otton for Chig.
Yeah, we'll have to see. He has a few other TEs. I'd rather ask for more and get rejected then get too little. We'll see what he says.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Tillman offer in New Orphan Superflex

Postby wickerkat1212 » Sat May 20, 2023 7:21 pm

I may have misunderstood the rules in our league. I thought it was 1 ppr for everyone but may be 1 ADDITIONAL point per TE, so 2 PPR. OOPS. So does that change anything for this offer?
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Tillman offer in New Orphan Superflex

Postby zaner75 » Sun May 21, 2023 7:31 am

If it’s a 2.0 TEP, I wouldn’t be expecting much for Tillman. Maybe McBride/Likely straight up or Ertz/Kmet and Gray/Hill but Gray and Hill are non-entities, even with a 2.0 premium.
Where were the the second tier of rookie TEs (Musgrave, Schoonmaker, Strange, Kraft) drafted? If they were all selected before you chose Tillman, then it’s likely your league does have the TE premium.

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Re: Tillman offer in New Orphan Superflex

Postby wickerkat1212 » Sun May 21, 2023 11:29 am

zaner75 wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 7:31 am If it’s a 2.0 TEP, I wouldn’t be expecting much for Tillman. Maybe McBride/Likely straight up or Ertz/Kmet and Gray/Hill but Gray and Hill are non-entities, even with a 2.0 premium.
Where were the the second tier of rookie TEs (Musgrave, Schoonmaker, Strange, Kraft) drafted? If they were all selected before you chose Tillman, then it’s likely your league does have the TE premium.
Yeah, I would have take some TE fliers later instead of the guys I did. Well, guess this guarantees I'll be picking very early again next year. Tillman went 3.07. Here is the order of the TEs drafted:

1.09 9 Kincaid, Dalton BUF TE
2.01 13 Mayer, Michael LVR
2.02 14 LaPorta, Sam DET TE (R)
2.08 20 Musgrave, Luke GBP TE (R)
3.03 27 Washington, Darnell PIT TE (R)
3.08 32 MSchoonmaker, Luke DAL TE (R) Mon
3.09 33 Kraft, Tucker GBP TE (R)
4.11 47 Kuntz, Zack NYJ TE (R)
4.12 48 Strange, Brenton JAC TE (R)

Best WW TEs are

Dissly
Moreau
Jonnu
Trautman
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble


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