Lamar+ Vs Tua+ (SF)

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Lamar+ Vs Tua+ (SF)

Postby fantasydem » Wed May 17, 2023 7:08 am

Have an offer in my inbox of sending my Adams, Akers & Tua for Lamar & Christian Watson. It’s a 12 standard PPR, .25 PPC SF league. Team 1 in signature. My thinking is that I’m not sure what to expect from Watson & losing Akers would bring me to only 3 somewhat reliable RBs. Multiple calculators (for what that’s worth) says I’d be winning the trade. What do you guys think?
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Team 1: 12 TM PPR/PPC Superflex
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 Sflex
QB: Herbert, Tua, Jones, Lock
RB: Barkley, Akers, Conner, Pollard
WR: Adams, Lamb, JJefferson, Godwin, Pittman, DPJ, Hardman
TE:Kelce, Cox
(24): 2, 3, 4

Team 2: 12 TM PPR Superflex, TE premium, .25 PPC
1 QB, 2 RB, 2WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 Sflex
QB: Wentz, Lance, Mond
RB: Montgomery, Mattison
WR: AJ Brown, Chase, JJefferson, Jeudy, Pascal, Hardman, Bourne
TE: Goedert, Howard
(22) 1.2, 1.5, 2.5, 3.1, 3.2, 3.5, 4.5
(23) 1, 2, 3, 4

Team 3: 12 TM PPR Superflex
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, 2 Flex, 1 Sflex
QB: Wentz, Rodgers, Foles, Brissett
RB:
WR: Deebo, Evans, Hopkins, Adams, Mooney
TE:
(24) 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Lamar+ Vs Tua+ (SF)

Postby collbey » Wed May 17, 2023 7:12 am

Lamar is worth those guys by himself in SF. Watson no matter how he does is a bonus.

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Re: Lamar+ Vs Tua+ (SF)

Postby Z$$$ » Wed May 17, 2023 7:19 am

Having Herbert and Jackson in a 2QB is a nice problem to have. If Watson can get back to his old self that’s a bonus and you could flip him mid season if needed
12 Team 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 5IDP
QB: Rodgers, Love
RB: Achane, Gibson, Dillon, Sanders
WR: Jefferson, Lamb, G Wilson, Rice, JSN, Burks
TE: Goedert, Likely, Musgraves
2024 Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11

16 Team 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Stafford, Fields
RB: Gibbs, Singletary, Dallas, Juszczyk
WR: Lamb, Burks, G Wilson, JSN, Q Johnson, Hardman, Goodwin
TE: Dulcich, Albert O, Gray, Granson

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Re: Lamar+ Vs Tua+ (SF)

Postby fantasydem » Wed May 17, 2023 7:20 am

Z$$$ wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 7:19 am Having Herbert and Jackson in a 2QB is a nice problem to have. If Watson can get back to his old self that’s a bonus and you could flip him mid season if needed
It’s Christian Watson if that changes anything, should have specified
Team 1: 12 TM PPR/PPC Superflex
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 Sflex
QB: Herbert, Tua, Jones, Lock
RB: Barkley, Akers, Conner, Pollard
WR: Adams, Lamb, JJefferson, Godwin, Pittman, DPJ, Hardman
TE:Kelce, Cox
(24): 2, 3, 4

Team 2: 12 TM PPR Superflex, TE premium, .25 PPC
1 QB, 2 RB, 2WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 Sflex
QB: Wentz, Lance, Mond
RB: Montgomery, Mattison
WR: AJ Brown, Chase, JJefferson, Jeudy, Pascal, Hardman, Bourne
TE: Goedert, Howard
(22) 1.2, 1.5, 2.5, 3.1, 3.2, 3.5, 4.5
(23) 1, 2, 3, 4

Team 3: 12 TM PPR Superflex
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, 2 Flex, 1 Sflex
QB: Wentz, Rodgers, Foles, Brissett
RB:
WR: Deebo, Evans, Hopkins, Adams, Mooney
TE:
(24) 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Lamar+ Vs Tua+ (SF)

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed May 17, 2023 7:20 am

no chance im doing that deal with your build, go win the money and the glory dude!
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Lamar+ Vs Tua+ (SF)

Postby Gator Sens » Wed May 17, 2023 7:52 am

I like the deal a lot long term, but I think it's hurts your build overall in the immediate. Akers is a risk, but you need him. I think you can sustain losing Adams based on your WR core, but it will be tough to make up his points. Great deal long term but hurts this year.

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Re: Lamar+ Vs Tua+ (SF)

Postby moishetreats » Wed May 17, 2023 9:17 am

I think the gap between Tua and Jackson is much closer than most.

What's really tantalizing here, though, is the 0.25PPC. I haven't played in that format before, so I'm asking / guessing: that's a huge bump for a QB like Jackson, right?
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186

IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --

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Re: Lamar+ Vs Tua+ (SF)

Postby Anteaters » Wed May 17, 2023 10:25 am

fantasydem wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 7:08 am Have an offer in my inbox of sending my Adams, Akers & Tua for Lamar & Christian Watson. It’s a 12 standard PPR, .25 PPC SF league. Team 1 in signature. My thinking is that I’m not sure what to expect from Watson & losing Akers would bring me to only 3 somewhat reliable RBs.
It's very tempting to take the trade. Like other said, to contend in 2023 you almost need Akers -- or to replace him after he's gone. No way will Watson match what Adams did in 2022, but I think Watson will be steady enough. And with a new QB (and possibly another different QB after Jimmy goes down with his yearly injury,) it's likely Adams won't match his numbers from last year.

Ultimately, I think this trade boils down to what every conversation about Tua comes down to. Your risk tolerance for a future concussion. If you think it's likely Tua misses significant time in 2023, you should make this trade. If you think it's likely Tua's risk of time missed because of injury is the same as any other QB, you should hold not make this trade.

That's it. Don't worry about reading the tea leaves of the other players. The only reason you're even considering this trade is you worried about Tua's health. It's worthwhile to drag that elephant out into the light, review your concerns, and make a decision based solely on how you feel about Tua's health.

If Tua and Lamar play the entire season, I think their numbers will be relatively close enough that there won't be a material difference for fantasy. Even in your scoring system. If they're both healthy all year, there's no reason to downgrade at the other positions to make this swap.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser


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