Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed

[Sriracha]

I just feel like Mims and Reed are similar type receivers. And Tillman/Mingo are more similar to each other than Mims/Reed.

I can see what you mean by body type, I guess.. but these are all very different WRs.

Mims is more of a deep threat with the skillset to branch out into a complete receiver. His ceiling probably looks a little something like Emmanuel Sanders.

Reed is more of an all around receiver that's athletic enough to play all positions but not fast enough to make his money as a deep threat. Ceiling for this archetype is something like Stefon Diggs (although he lacks the same kind of violence in his route running) and part of the reason he's been so productive is being attached to Josh Allen.

Tillman is more of the stereotypical X receiver like Michael Thomas.

Mingo comps more to high BMI, YAC receivers with a vertical element to their game like Deebo Samuel, AJB.

I'm very much not high on this WR class and I believe these are all significantly worse prospects than the ceiling comps I listed... but ya never know how these guys are going to develop in the NFL.

I'd rather trade out of this pick range and grab Michael Wilson a round later and pray he stays healthy but that's not always an option.

[JTLoh]

Cousins has supported multiple T-24 WRs and TE1 play simultaneously throughout his career.

We don't want top 24 out of Addison. We were talking Addison being top 14.
I'm not convinced at all in Cousins having 3 fantasy relevant guys.

[Sriracha]

Cousins has supported multiple T-24 WRs and TE1 play simultaneously throughout his career.

We don't want top 24 out of Addison. We were talking Addison being top 14.
I'm not convinced at all in Cousins having 3 fantasy relevant guys.

If this is the case, odd man out is likely Hockenson not Addison.

[Cameron Giles]

Cousins has supported multiple T-24 WRs and TE1 play simultaneously throughout his career.

We don't want top 24 out of Addison. We were talking Addison being top 14.
I'm not convinced at all in Cousins having 3 fantasy relevant guys.

WR is deeper than it ever has been and shows no sign of slowing down. Getting someone who can be a T-24 WR and has the upside more is not a bad thing from the 1.08.

[Ice]

Along with Devonta, Tee Higgins has the same benefit. It's not a bad thing, if you have a QB that can support it, and Cousins can.

Except, I don't wanna spend 1.5 - 1.8 on a Devonta Smith. Which is where I see Addison going.
If its TEP, I'll take Kincaid or trade out.

I mean, Devonta Smith had 95 grabs for about 1200 yards and 7 TD's last year, in his 2nd year in the league. He was a top 10 WR in PPR. I'd take that production every year for my 1.08 pick.

Devonta Smith won the Heisman Trophy. Those numbers should surprise no one. He is an outstanding player and great route runner.

Hard to understand how so many devalue him.

[jordanzs]

I almost drafted Mingo at 2.2, but someone offered me a 2024 1st for the pick (not superflex). I took the 1st. Maybe I'll end up with Mingo in other drafts.

[wickerkat1212]

I almost drafted Mingo at 2.2, but someone offered me a 2024 1st for the pick (not superflex). I took the 1st. Maybe I'll end up with Mingo in other drafts.

Tough call. Could be a nice move, could regret it later, but I think MOST of us take the 1st. Did the guy take Mingo?

[jordanzs]

I almost drafted Mingo at 2.2, but someone offered me a 2024 1st for the pick (not superflex). I took the 1st. Maybe I'll end up with Mingo in other drafts.

Tough call. Could be a nice move, could regret it later, but I think MOST of us take the 1st. Did the guy take Mingo?

No he took Mayer. But Mingo went next

[wickerkat1212]

Would you guys offer a 2024 3rd-round pick for Tillman? It might be pretty early.

[Ice]

Would you guys offer a 2024 3rd-round pick for Tillman? It might be pretty early.

In a Heartbeat

FYI, I traded Gallup for 4.5 in a salary cap league to draft him. I had him rated much higher. FYI, I think Gallup has a bounce back year but I already own Lamb and I save over 1 million on the trade.

Tillaman is a 2024 contributor pick so patience is required. I like him better than Hyatt.

I have a high 2nd round grade on this player.

[wickerkat1212]

Would you guys offer a 2024 3rd-round pick for Tillman? It might be pretty early.

In a Heartbeat

FYI, I traded Gallup for 4.5 in a salary cap league to draft him. I had him rated much higher. FYI, I think Gallup has a bounce back year but I already own Lamb and I save over 1 million on the trade.

Tillaman is a 2024 contributor pick so patience is required. I like him better than Hyatt.

I have a high 2nd round grade on this player.

Even if that pick turns out to be the 3.01?

[Pullo Vision]

Would you guys offer a 2024 3rd-round pick for Tillman? It might be pretty early.

Completely depends on the league- settings, trade market, etc. Tillman needs to prove he's NFL worthy AND wait for a starting slot to open up, meaning no earlier than 2024. I've seen leagues with such short rosters I'd prefer the pick, in this situation..

[Ice]

Would you guys offer a 2024 3rd-round pick for Tillman? It might be pretty early.

In a Heartbeat

FYI, I traded Gallup for 4.5 in a salary cap league to draft him. I had him rated much higher. FYI, I think Gallup has a bounce back year but I already own Lamb and I save over 1 million on the trade.

Tillaman is a 2024 contributor pick so patience is required. I like him better than Hyatt.

I have a high 2nd round grade on this player.

Even if that pick turns out to be the 3.01?

Easily.

I have him as a early mid 2nd round fantasy grade with WR1 upside who has been overlooked. I like him better than Hyatt and think he may be the legit starter as early as 2024 for the Browns. This is Amari's last year in Cleveland IMO due to contract and salary cap.

Tillman is 6'3" and plays with an edge. I expect him to learn a lot this season from Cooper and be ready to step in next year. His 2021 tape is really good.

He does need to develop coming off a lost season but landed in a very good spot to do just that. His window should open in 2024 so some patience is required.

There is risk but I think he has the game to overcome pretty easily.

[wickerkat1212]

In a Heartbeat

FYI, I traded Gallup for 4.5 in a salary cap league to draft him. I had him rated much higher. FYI, I think Gallup has a bounce back year but I already own Lamb and I save over 1 million on the trade.

Tillaman is a 2024 contributor pick so patience is required. I like him better than Hyatt.

I have a high 2nd round grade on this player.

Even if that pick turns out to be the 3.01?

Easily.

I have him as a early mid 2nd round fantasy grade with WR1 upside who has been overlooked. I like him better than Hyatt and think he may be the legit starter as early as 2024 for the Browns. This is Amari's last year in Cleveland IMO due to contract and salary cap.

Tillman is 6'3" and plays with an edge. I expect him to learn a lot this season from Cooper and be ready to step in next year. His 2021 tape is really good.

He does need to develop coming off a lost season but landed in a very good spot to do just that. His window should open in 2024 so some patience is required.

There is risk but I think he has the game to overcome pretty easily.

Cool. Thanks. Appreciate all of that. I liked him a lot coming out. Still do.

[wickerkat1212]

Offered 2024 third (which will probably be very early) for Tillman + MWhite QB + Ferguson TE—accepted.