Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed

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So, who do you like better?

Mingo ADP 24 6'2" CAR (drafted 39th) rated 6.27
45
73%
Tillman ADP 25 6'3" CLE (drafted 74th) rated 6.38
5
8%
JReed ADP 29 5'1'' GBP (drafted 50th) rated 5.98
12
19%
 
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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed

Postby JTLoh » Fri May 05, 2023 7:52 am

Jigga94 wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 7:06 am I also would hate getting the WR9 last year for a mid-late 1st...

14th by fantasy points per game, and it would be a mid, not mid-late.
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CONTENTION 2
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks

CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson

ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed

Postby Cameron Giles » Fri May 05, 2023 8:11 am

Bronco Billy wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 7:04 am Matt Harmon is positively gushing over Reed on twitter. He’s got a serious man crush on him. Nice to have someone like that reinforcing your decision if you drafted Reed like I did.
Very surprised Reed isn't getting any love here

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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed

Postby Jigga94 » Fri May 05, 2023 8:48 am

JTLoh wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 7:52 am
Jigga94 wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 7:06 am I also would hate getting the WR9 last year for a mid-late 1st...

14th by fantasy points per game, and it would be a mid, not mid-late.
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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed

Postby Jigga94 » Fri May 05, 2023 8:48 am

Cameron Giles wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 8:11 am
Bronco Billy wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 7:04 am Matt Harmon is positively gushing over Reed on twitter. He’s got a serious man crush on him. Nice to have someone like that reinforcing your decision if you drafted Reed like I did.
Very surprised Reed isn't getting any love here
Let's keep it that way haha

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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed

Postby Bronco Billy » Fri May 05, 2023 8:56 am

Cameron Giles wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 8:11 am
Bronco Billy wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 7:04 am Matt Harmon is positively gushing over Reed on twitter. He’s got a serious man crush on him. Nice to have someone like that reinforcing your decision if you drafted Reed like I did.
Very surprised Reed isn't getting any love here
Geez, it’s really starting to gain some momentum. Seeing a few opinions that think he can be a WR1 in GB matched with Watson. I like him a lot but did not expect that.

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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed

Postby JTLoh » Fri May 05, 2023 9:46 am

Jigga94 wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 8:48 am Whatever helps you sleep :)
If there were a thumbs up button here, I would push it.
CONTENTION 2
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks

CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson

ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints

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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed

Postby JTLoh » Fri May 05, 2023 9:47 am

I feel like this should be more of a
Mingo vs Tillman
Reed vs Mims
CONTENTION 2
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks

CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson

ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints

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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed

Postby Bronco Billy » Fri May 05, 2023 9:57 am

JTLoh wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 9:47 am I feel like this should be more of a
Mingo vs Tillman
Reed vs Mims
Why? Mingo’s ADP is well ahead of the other 3, who in order are #23 for Mims, #27 for Reed and #30 for Tillman per 279 rookie drafts on mfl.

Seems like maybe your opinion is more of an outlier - not that there’s anything wrong with that, but it sure doesn’t warrant another similar thread.

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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed

Postby JTLoh » Fri May 05, 2023 10:04 am

Bronco Billy wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 9:57 am Seems like maybe your opinion is more of an outlier - not that there’s anything wrong with that, but it sure doesn’t warrant another similar thread.
I just feel like Mims and Reed are similar type receivers. And Tillman/Mingo are more similar to each other than Mims/Reed.
CONTENTION 2
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks

CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson

ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints

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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed

Postby wickerkat1212 » Fri May 05, 2023 10:46 am

JTLoh wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 10:04 am
Bronco Billy wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 9:57 am Seems like maybe your opinion is more of an outlier - not that there’s anything wrong with that, but it sure doesn’t warrant another similar thread.
I just feel like Mims and Reed are similar type receivers. And Tillman/Mingo are more similar to each other than Mims/Reed.
I started this as these were three WRs that I had my eye on and thought they were getting similar ADP, then the more we dug in, the more I saw some separation. It's a fascinating study, and I also like Rice and Mims in the mix, but just wanted to see what people thought of these three. Mingo is the clear leader of these three IMO.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri May 05, 2023 10:53 am

JTLoh wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 6:54 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 10:37 am Along with Devonta, Tee Higgins has the same benefit. It's not a bad thing, if you have a QB that can support it, and Cousins can.
Except, I don't wanna spend 1.5 - 1.8 on a Devonta Smith. Which is where I see Addison going.
If its TEP, I'll take Kincaid or trade out.
I mean, Devonta Smith had 95 grabs for about 1200 yards and 7 TD's last year, in his 2nd year in the league. He was a top 10 WR in PPR. I'd take that production every year for my 1.08 pick.
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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed

Postby JTLoh » Fri May 05, 2023 11:31 am

Yeah, I'll reconsider. Devonta was better that I was giving him credit for.

But i'm still sus on Addison. But more about, can Cousins support both? Actually it would be all three, because Hock is gonna get targets.
I'd draft Addison, but after 1.8 for me. And I haven't looked but how much of Smith's production came after Goedart went down? Is/was he top 15ish WR with a healthy Goedart?
CONTENTION 2
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks

CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson

ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints

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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed

Postby JTLoh » Fri May 05, 2023 11:33 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 10:46 am I started this as these were three WRs that I had my eye on and thought they were getting similar ADP, then the more we dug in, the more I saw some separation. It's a fascinating study, and I also like Rice and Mims in the mix, but just wanted to see what people thought of these three. Mingo is the clear leader of these three IMO.
No worries mate. It's a fine thread.
I was just OTC and torn between Reed/Mims and found this while searching for answers.
CONTENTION 2
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks

CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson

ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints

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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed

Postby Cameron Giles » Fri May 05, 2023 11:42 am

JTLoh wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 11:31 am Yeah, I'll reconsider. Devonta was better that I was giving him credit for.

But i'm still sus on Addison. But more about, can Cousins support both? Actually it would be all three, because Hock is gonna get targets.
I'd draft Addison, but after 1.8 for me. And I haven't looked but how much of Smith's production came after Goedart went down? Is/was he top 15ish WR with a healthy Goedart?
Cousins has supported multiple T-24 WRs and TE1 play simultaneously throughout his career.

Players with Addison's production profile typically hit. It's just a matter of how big of a hit they are. Addison is closer to a Calvin Ridley-Christian Kirk type of player, which if awesome for fantasy.

He's going to a team that:

- T-3 in pass attempts last year
- May trade Dalvin Cook, locking them into a more pass-heavy offense
- 107 targets from Adam Thielen gone
- Bad WR depth behind Justin Jefferson
- Spent 1st Round DC on him

Plus, he's rarely going to see primary coverage with Justin Jefferson on the field. It's not sexy, but it's a pretty safe pick.

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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed

Postby wickerkat1212 » Fri May 05, 2023 12:18 pm

JTLoh wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 11:33 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 10:46 am I started this as these were three WRs that I had my eye on and thought they were getting similar ADP, then the more we dug in, the more I saw some separation. It's a fascinating study, and I also like Rice and Mims in the mix, but just wanted to see what people thought of these three. Mingo is the clear leader of these three IMO.
No worries mate. It's a fine thread.
I was just OTC and torn between Reed/Mims and found this while searching for answers.
Right on. Best of luck.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble


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