So, who do you like better and why? I'm seeing ADP on these three being pretty close. Assume 12-man, 1 ppr, 1 qb leagues.
Mingo ADP 24 6'2" CAR (drafted 39th) rated 6.27
Tillman ADP 25 6'3" CLE (drafted 74th) rated 6.38
JReed ADP 29 5'1'' GBP (drafted 50th) rated 5.98
Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed
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Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed
Youll have to make this choice in the mid/late 2nd. Not an easy one. Mingo has the most mystery and also easiest path to points. Hate it, but I'd go with him over the other two.
12 Team 1QB IDP Full PPR Start 8
QB- Kenny Pickett, Jake Haener, Clayton Tune
RB- Jerrick McKinnon, Elijah Mitchell, Gus Edwards, Kenneth Gainwell, TDP, Jordan Mason
WR- Rondale Moore, Drake London, Jordan Addison, Terrence Marshall , Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Mecole Hardman, Rashid Shaheed, David Bell
TE- Michael Mayer, Likely, Chig, Cade Otten
LB- Jewell, Deablo, Troy Anderson
DE- Phillips, Highsmith
DB- Brisker, Hufanga, Cine
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QB- Kenny Pickett, Jake Haener, Clayton Tune
RB- Jerrick McKinnon, Elijah Mitchell, Gus Edwards, Kenneth Gainwell, TDP, Jordan Mason
WR- Rondale Moore, Drake London, Jordan Addison, Terrence Marshall , Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Mecole Hardman, Rashid Shaheed, David Bell
TE- Michael Mayer, Likely, Chig, Cade Otten
LB- Jewell, Deablo, Troy Anderson
DE- Phillips, Highsmith
DB- Brisker, Hufanga, Cine
Taxi Squad: Chase Brown, A.T. Perry, Keaton Mitchell, Khalan Laborn, Lew Nichols lll
Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed
Mingo my third rated wr in draft. Tillman fourth. Reed around 10th. I think Tillman and Mingo severely underrated.
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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed
Reed is one of the best values in the draft. I have him, then Mingo, then a noticeable break....then Tillman.
Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed
Have Mingo and Reed very close as of now. Thought both got better DC than anticipated, especially Reed (thought hed be a deep sleeper). They are in the tier right behind the 1st round WR so WR5/6 for me.
Tillman kind of the opposite. Expected a little better capital. Landing spot isn't terrible, but I don't see him making a big impact this year. Dropped him to the next tier of guys behind Rashee, Mims, and Downs.
Tillman kind of the opposite. Expected a little better capital. Landing spot isn't terrible, but I don't see him making a big impact this year. Dropped him to the next tier of guys behind Rashee, Mims, and Downs.
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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed
I’m definitely not a Mingo fan. Of Reed and Tillman, I’ll go with Reed because I think he has more ways to win on routes and his path to opportunity is shorter.
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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed
the WRs in my 3rd tier are pretty chalky to draft cap, in SF roughly 1.11-2.2 I have it Mingo Reed Rice Mims
Tillman is in my tier 4 WRs, where I have Downs Tillman Hyatt roughly 2.7-2.9
Tillman is in my tier 4 WRs, where I have Downs Tillman Hyatt roughly 2.7-2.9
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
Notable Assets in Rebuild
QB: Mahomes - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - C Rodriguez - Z Evans
WR: AJB - M Pittman- R Doubs - E Moore - Shaheed - C Tillman- A Iosivas
TE: MAndrews - Kraft
'24: 1.1, 1.7, 2.1, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 3.10
‘25: 1 1st, 2 2nds, 2 3rds
2nd year DFF
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
QB: TLaw - Purdy - Goff
RB: Chubb - D Montgomery - D Singletary - A Mattison - K Miller - J Hill
WR: CeeDee - Aiyuk - Rice - Godwin - J Reed - E Moore
TE: Kittle - Kincaid - Chig
picks: 1.09, 2.11
Notable Assets in Rebuild
QB: Mahomes - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - C Rodriguez - Z Evans
WR: AJB - M Pittman- R Doubs - E Moore - Shaheed - C Tillman- A Iosivas
TE: MAndrews - Kraft
'24: 1.1, 1.7, 2.1, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 3.10
‘25: 1 1st, 2 2nds, 2 3rds
2nd year DFF
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
QB: TLaw - Purdy - Goff
RB: Chubb - D Montgomery - D Singletary - A Mattison - K Miller - J Hill
WR: CeeDee - Aiyuk - Rice - Godwin - J Reed - E Moore
TE: Kittle - Kincaid - Chig
picks: 1.09, 2.11
Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed
Mingo
Reed
Tillman
Reed
Tillman
Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed
And a 3rd rating might be too low.
Mingo has WR1 upside on his team quickly and should be a steady Fantasy starter for years.
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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed
I am somewhat doing this off the top my head, so I might be slightly off, but it’s something like this:
Tier 1
Jsn
Tier 2
Addison
Mingo
Tillman
Tier 3
QJ
Tier 4
Flowers
Tier 5
Hyatt
Downs
Mims
Tier 6
Rice
Reed
Some other guys
Keep in mind, I base my rankings Mostly on what I see in watching a little tape on each guy. I might’ve adhust tiny bit for combine results, but usually not much and then I adjust a little bit based on the draft. So, for example, if Mingo didn’t get drafting until the seventh round, I would’ve moved him down in my rankings, but just because he got picked in the second round I’m not moving the first round wide receivers ahead of him because they got picked in the first round.
Miller and spears are my third and fourth rated rbs by the war.
Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed
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This is a link to the draft I just did. I am the sewer squirrels. So you know I’m not just bullshitting I put my money where my mouth was.
This is a link to the draft I just did. I am the sewer squirrels. So you know I’m not just bullshitting I put my money where my mouth was.
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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed
Well done.lic217 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 8:07 am https://www44.myfantasyleague.com/2023/ ... 34243&O=17
This is a link to the draft I just did. I am the sewer squirrels. So you know I’m not just bullshitting I put my money where my mouth was.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
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Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed
My final pre-draft rankings had the WR's as such.
T1: JSN - T2: Flowers, Addison - T3: Tillman, Johnston, Mingo T4: Reed, Mims, Hyatt, Boute - T5: Downs, Wilson & Dell.
This was after watching a lot of tape and adjusting based off that, reading scouting break downs of their games and incorporating combine numbers. Since the draft I've adjusted my board to look something like.
T1: NA - T2: JSN, Flowers, Addison - T3: Johnston,
Reed, Mingo - T4: Tillman, Mims T5: Hyatt, Downs, Wilson - T6: Boute & Dell.
T1: JSN - T2: Flowers, Addison - T3: Tillman, Johnston, Mingo T4: Reed, Mims, Hyatt, Boute - T5: Downs, Wilson & Dell.
This was after watching a lot of tape and adjusting based off that, reading scouting break downs of their games and incorporating combine numbers. Since the draft I've adjusted my board to look something like.
T1: NA - T2: JSN, Flowers, Addison - T3: Johnston,
Reed, Mingo - T4: Tillman, Mims T5: Hyatt, Downs, Wilson - T6: Boute & Dell.
Team One: Children of the Light
12 Team PPR- Superflex- Dynasty - Start 9
QB: Herbert, Watson, Young, Cousins
HB: Bijan, Etienne, J.Jacobs, Najee, D.Harris, J.Ford
WR: Olave, Smith-Njigba, Pittman, Jeudy, Jameson, A.Cooper, Cooks, P.Cambell, T.Marshall, Boutte (T.S.)
TE: Hockenson, Kmet, L.Schoonmaker, Likely (T.S.)
Picks: 2024 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd & 3rd
Team Two: One Nation
12 Team IDP- PPR- Superflex- Dynasy - 8 Offensive Starters- 1 DL, 1 EDR, 2 LB, 2 DB, 1DP (DL/LB/DB)
QB: Mahomes, Love, Lance, Purdy
HB: Chubb, Etienne, Akers, Dillion, J.Cook, P.Strong (T.S.), Z.White (T.S.)
WR: Waddle, Jameson, A.Cooper, “Bayou”.Michael.Thomas, Pickens, T.Marshall
TE: Waller, I.Smith.Jr, Otton (T.S.)
LB: D.Lloyd, Q.Walker, D.Long, J.Baker, J.Jewel
DB: J.Chinn, J.Pitre, J.Brisker
DL/ER: S.Hubbard, K.Mack, K.Paye
Picks: '23 1.05, 1.07, 1.12 & 3.07
12 Team PPR- Superflex- Dynasty - Start 9
QB: Herbert, Watson, Young, Cousins
HB: Bijan, Etienne, J.Jacobs, Najee, D.Harris, J.Ford
WR: Olave, Smith-Njigba, Pittman, Jeudy, Jameson, A.Cooper, Cooks, P.Cambell, T.Marshall, Boutte (T.S.)
TE: Hockenson, Kmet, L.Schoonmaker, Likely (T.S.)
Picks: 2024 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd & 3rd
Team Two: One Nation
12 Team IDP- PPR- Superflex- Dynasy - 8 Offensive Starters- 1 DL, 1 EDR, 2 LB, 2 DB, 1DP (DL/LB/DB)
QB: Mahomes, Love, Lance, Purdy
HB: Chubb, Etienne, Akers, Dillion, J.Cook, P.Strong (T.S.), Z.White (T.S.)
WR: Waddle, Jameson, A.Cooper, “Bayou”.Michael.Thomas, Pickens, T.Marshall
TE: Waller, I.Smith.Jr, Otton (T.S.)
LB: D.Lloyd, Q.Walker, D.Long, J.Baker, J.Jewel
DB: J.Chinn, J.Pitre, J.Brisker
DL/ER: S.Hubbard, K.Mack, K.Paye
Picks: '23 1.05, 1.07, 1.12 & 3.07
Re: Mingo vs Tillman vs Reed
Is Tillman really being selected in the same range as these guys?
It's been Mingo/Rice/Reed in all of the drafts I've been in and that grouping makes a lot more sense.
It's been Mingo/Rice/Reed in all of the drafts I've been in and that grouping makes a lot more sense.
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