Bijan Robinson THE THREAD

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Re: Bijan Robinson THE THREAD

Postby Cjbryant03 » Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:31 pm

CGW wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:06 pm
Cjbryant03 wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 12:11 pm In my 12 team league, I just offered Achane, Jeudy, Sanders, 2025 1st (should be late) and 2024 2nd (his choice that can be traded later as I have two). He declined it after some hesitation. He needed depth at RB and WR. Thought that was and overpay but apparently not
I get it though. For a contender that's all just depth. Achane is nice for production but Jeudy and Sanders won't add much to a contenders starting roster. Achane is a good start, but there are very few true stud RBs out there.
His roster doesnt have depth. Hes rolling out cook on a weekly basis. After his starters, team is full of handcuffs and 3rd or 4th WRs. Although starting core is Diggs, Collins, Kirk, London.

Part of the issue is he scored 189 points last week with some big games and decided he will roll with that and see what happens. My offer was to provide a bit of depth to navigate bye weeks and what not with guys who will see the field and touch the ball.

It was close though. He debated for about 24hours. Probably my fault for not pushing for a quicker deal and let him think about it too long.
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Re: Bijan Robinson THE THREAD

Postby timeEd32 » Fri Oct 06, 2023 6:25 am

The problem with that offer is really only the Achane + 1 part is attractive when dealing away a premium asset (and Achane comes with a lot more risk than Bijan). Jeudy and Sanders are meh. If it was Achane + 1 + 2 + [someone else very good] then you may get someone's attention.

Personally I'd only be interested in moving Bijan in a deal for Jefferson or Chase (depending on lineups/scoring) or an elite QB in SF. I used Bijan in a deal to get Lamar in one league, but the others I have are going nowhere.

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Re: Bijan Robinson THE THREAD

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Re: Bijan Robinson THE THREAD

Postby Anteaters » Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:35 am

Wealthy people murdering people and getting away with it is a tale as old as time. Remember all the smoke about a woman dying in Irsay's apartment ... then the story faded and months ago people are seriously taking Irsay's statements about JT's "injury" seriously. :doh:

As Fitzgerald said, "Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me." Indeed.
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Re: Bijan Robinson THE THREAD

Postby Mike11 » Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:28 am

timeEd32 wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 6:25 am The problem with that offer is really only the Achane + 1 part is attractive when dealing away a premium asset (and Achane comes with a lot more risk than Bijan). Jeudy and Sanders are meh. If it was Achane + 1 + 2 + [someone else very good] then you may get someone's attention.

Personally I'd only be interested in moving Bijan in a deal for Jefferson or Chase (depending on lineups/scoring) or an elite QB in SF. I used Bijan in a deal to get Lamar in one league, but the others I have are going nowhere.
I think the list for Bijan is larger, you’d really turn down Lamb for him? Or AJB?
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Re: Bijan Robinson THE THREAD

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:06 am

Anteaters wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:35 am
As Fitzgerald said, "Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me." Indeed.
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Postby Bronco Billy » Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:30 am

Anteaters wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:35 am
Wealthy people murdering people and getting away with it is a tale as old as time. Remember all the smoke about a woman dying in Irsay's apartment ... then the story faded and months ago people are seriously taking Irsay's statements about JT's "injury" seriously. :doh:
Wait. So you’re saying that Wundrum’s OD death was really her murder by Irsay and that the evidence was suppressed? Care to share your foundation for this claim?

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Re: Bijan Robinson THE THREAD

Postby kmbryant09 » Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:43 pm

Bijan has the 7th highest snap rate inside the red zone on the Falcons behind London/Pitts/Van Jefferson (!) / MyCole Pruitt (!) / Tyler Allgeier / Jonnu Smith.

He has the 10th highest snap rate on the team from inside the 5 yard line.

31 RBs have 100+ touches this season:
-Bijan Robinson = 5.5 ypt (5/31)
-Tyler Allgeier = 3.5 ypt (30/31)

I don't personally like yards/touch as a stat, so here's this as well:
-Bijan Robinson = 5.0 ypc on 103 carries
-Tyler Allgeier = 3.2 ypc on 116 carries

Arthur Smith is a f*****g joke.
10-team/.5 PPR/5 Pts per Passing TD. Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX (rb/wr/te)
QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Toney, A. Iosivas
TE: K. Pitts, E. Engram, C. Okonkwo, G. Dulcich

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Re: Bijan Robinson THE THREAD

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:51 pm

kmbryant09 wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:43 pm Bijan has the 7th highest snap rate inside the red zone on the Falcons behind London/Pitts/Van Jefferson (!) / MyCole Pruitt (!) / Tyler Allgeier / Jonnu Smith.

He has the 10th highest snap rate on the team from inside the 5 yard line.

31 RBs have 100+ touches this season:
-Bijan Robinson = 5.5 ypt (5/31)
-Tyler Allgeier = 3.5 ypt (30/31)

I don't personally like yards/touch as a stat, so here's this as well:
-Bijan Robinson = 5.0 ypc on 103 carries
-Tyler Allgeier = 3.2 ypc on 116 carries

Arthur Smith is a f*****g joke.
Allgeier gets more redzone and goal line work though which skews the stats sometimes. He has 25 redzone Carrie’s to Bijans 9.

Putting down Allgeier is not the way to go imo, he’s a very good player in his own right.

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Re: Bijan Robinson THE THREAD

Postby Lumps » Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:52 pm

kmbryant09 wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:43 pm Bijan has the 7th highest snap rate inside the red zone on the Falcons behind London/Pitts/Van Jefferson (!) / MyCole Pruitt (!) / Tyler Allgeier / Jonnu Smith.

He has the 10th highest snap rate on the team from inside the 5 yard line.

31 RBs have 100+ touches this season:
-Bijan Robinson = 5.5 ypt (5/31)
-Tyler Allgeier = 3.5 ypt (30/31)

I don't personally like yards/touch as a stat, so here's this as well:
-Bijan Robinson = 5.0 ypc on 103 carries
-Tyler Allgeier = 3.2 ypc on 116 carries

Arthur Smith is a f*****g joke.
Bijan has the second highest average per carry among those with at least 90 carries.

He has the second most missed tackles forced.

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Re: Bijan Robinson THE THREAD

Postby Anteaters » Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:03 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:06 am
Anteaters wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:35 am
As Fitzgerald said, "Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me." Indeed.
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/10367- ... h-they-are
Larry Fitzgerald is a real one.
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QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
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WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
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RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
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Re: Bijan Robinson THE THREAD

Postby frerichs5 » Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:36 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:51 pm
kmbryant09 wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:43 pm Bijan has the 7th highest snap rate inside the red zone on the Falcons behind London/Pitts/Van Jefferson (!) / MyCole Pruitt (!) / Tyler Allgeier / Jonnu Smith.

He has the 10th highest snap rate on the team from inside the 5 yard line.

31 RBs have 100+ touches this season:
-Bijan Robinson = 5.5 ypt (5/31)
-Tyler Allgeier = 3.5 ypt (30/31)

I don't personally like yards/touch as a stat, so here's this as well:
-Bijan Robinson = 5.0 ypc on 103 carries
-Tyler Allgeier = 3.2 ypc on 116 carries

Arthur Smith is a f*****g joke.
Allgeier gets more redzone and goal line work though which skews the stats sometimes. He has 25 redzone Carrie’s to Bijans 9.

Putting down Allgeier is not the way to go imo, he’s a very good player in his own right.
Agreed. Allgeier getting short yardage work is going to drag his averages down and make it look worse than it is. I think he’s a good player as well.

That said, I still think Bijan is underused. But it is what it is.

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Re: Bijan Robinson THE THREAD

Postby kmbryant09 » Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:41 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:51 pm
kmbryant09 wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:43 pm Bijan has the 7th highest snap rate inside the red zone on the Falcons behind London/Pitts/Van Jefferson (!) / MyCole Pruitt (!) / Tyler Allgeier / Jonnu Smith.

He has the 10th highest snap rate on the team from inside the 5 yard line.

31 RBs have 100+ touches this season:
-Bijan Robinson = 5.5 ypt (5/31)
-Tyler Allgeier = 3.5 ypt (30/31)

I don't personally like yards/touch as a stat, so here's this as well:
-Bijan Robinson = 5.0 ypc on 103 carries
-Tyler Allgeier = 3.2 ypc on 116 carries

Arthur Smith is a f*****g joke.
Allgeier gets more redzone and goal line work though which skews the stats sometimes. He has 25 redzone Carrie’s to Bijans 9.

Putting down Allgeier is not the way to go imo, he’s a very good player in his own right.
I didn't mean to put down Allgeier, though I certainly understand how that came across. I think Allgeier is a fine physical runner, but far from the level of talent necessary to form any sort of time share with someone like Bijan.

I think Allgeier would pair nicely with someone like James Cook / Rashaad White / Tony Pollard as a carries-eater.
10-team/.5 PPR/5 Pts per Passing TD. Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX (rb/wr/te)
QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Toney, A. Iosivas
TE: K. Pitts, E. Engram, C. Okonkwo, G. Dulcich

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Re: Bijan Robinson THE THREAD

Postby StripesOfKC » Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:00 pm

I thought Allegeier was a very good back last year

As in he wasn't all that much worse than Kenneth Walker over his starting sample (both rookies)

This year however has been a major step back through pretty much all his peripheral and efficiency stats. There is no excuse for him to be playing as much as he has when you have a top 10 pick invested in replacing him

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Re: Bijan Robinson THE THREAD

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:18 pm

kmbryant09 wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:41 pm
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:51 pm
kmbryant09 wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:43 pm Bijan has the 7th highest snap rate inside the red zone on the Falcons behind London/Pitts/Van Jefferson (!) / MyCole Pruitt (!) / Tyler Allgeier / Jonnu Smith.

He has the 10th highest snap rate on the team from inside the 5 yard line.

31 RBs have 100+ touches this season:
-Bijan Robinson = 5.5 ypt (5/31)
-Tyler Allgeier = 3.5 ypt (30/31)

I don't personally like yards/touch as a stat, so here's this as well:
-Bijan Robinson = 5.0 ypc on 103 carries
-Tyler Allgeier = 3.2 ypc on 116 carries

Arthur Smith is a f*****g joke.
Allgeier gets more redzone and goal line work though which skews the stats sometimes. He has 25 redzone Carrie’s to Bijans 9.

Putting down Allgeier is not the way to go imo, he’s a very good player in his own right.
I didn't mean to put down Allgeier, though I certainly understand how that came across. I think Allgeier is a fine physical runner, but far from the level of talent necessary to form any sort of time share with someone like Bijan.

I think Allgeier would pair nicely with someone like James Cook / Rashaad White / Tony Pollard as a carries-eater.
Yeah, I mean bijan is on a different level. He should be getting more work. As a fantasy manager, honestly I don’t mind it… yet. Would rather Bijan be kept fresh than ran into the ground, like zeke for example. And with the longer season, these rbbc’s are going to be the new norm, even for studs like bijan.

Allgeier has been worse this year, but hard to say exactly why that has been. He’s gotten a lot more redzone usage, which drags down the stats, but even his ypc on other areas of the field are down by a full yard. Idk.


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