Kayshon Boutte, WR
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Kayshon Boutte, WR
I've heard some wide variations in assessing Boutte. One pod put him outside their top 10 WR, another in their top 5. The main concerns I've heard were regarding his ankle injury, his poor 2022 compared to the previous year, and rumors of unique parties.
Boutte is one of the guys I'm real curious where he lands. He could end up being one of the steals in dynasty drafts.
Boutte is one of the guys I'm real curious where he lands. He could end up being one of the steals in dynasty drafts.
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Re: Kayshon Boutte, WR
Has talent but he will probably slip big time in the draft. He didn't seem to ever gel with his coach, planned on returning, then abruptly declared. Not sure he handles adversity/pressure very well. That is a Red Flag for me so I will probably avoid unless he falls late in rookie drafts.
You're right he could be a steal but there is a lot of risk. He is going to need to interview really well and show maturity and the desire to excel to get drafted in the top 3 rounds.
You're right he could be a steal but there is a lot of risk. He is going to need to interview really well and show maturity and the desire to excel to get drafted in the top 3 rounds.
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Re: Kayshon Boutte, WR
If he goes in the first 2 rounds I could see myself considering him with my 1.06 but more likely I’d probably grab him with my 1.10/1.11 if he’s still there.
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Re: Kayshon Boutte, WR
Absolutely one of three guys I’ve got targeted right now with my 1.10 pick. That could change but I doubt it
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Re: Kayshon Boutte, WR
The reports of gelling issues with the coaching staff kicked in with the new staff, along with those unique parties involving at least one member of said staff. This description reminds me too much of Denver/Jville-
-barely beating his freshman reception count despite playing an extra game
-barely beating his sophomore receiving yardage total despite 5 more games
-set college career lows in yards/reception and receiving TDs
Boutte's questions about play, maturity and locker room coincided with the new coaching staff that has its own competence and off field questions. One hopes those parties have nothing to do with Kelly filing for divorce from his 28 year marriage.
Boutte finished 2022 in his one year with Kelly-Boutte, one of the most talented wide receivers in the nation, finished the night with two receptions for 20 yards. He didn’t catch his first pass until late in the fourth quarter.
Typically, a team wants to find a way to get their best playmaker the ball as often as possible. LSU, however, failed to do that with Boutte. Again, that falls on coaching.
It’s hard to imagine a worse start to the Brian Kelly era than what we saw on Sunday night.
Maybe things will get better. Kelly has certainly managed to find his way out of tough situations at Notre Dame before. But I still think there’s plenty of reason for concern for LSU fans.
For the most part, I think when a coach shows red flags early, they shouldn’t be ignored. When a coach shows you who he is, it shouldn’t be ignored.
Kelly’s had numerous missteps since arriving in Baton Rouge. It might not be time for LSU fans to panic, but it might not be long before that time arrives.
-barely beating his freshman reception count despite playing an extra game
-barely beating his sophomore receiving yardage total despite 5 more games
-set college career lows in yards/reception and receiving TDs
Boutte's questions about play, maturity and locker room coincided with the new coaching staff that has its own competence and off field questions. One hopes those parties have nothing to do with Kelly filing for divorce from his 28 year marriage.
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Re: Kayshon Boutte, WR
He's got the talent, but smart thing to do is let NFL draft capital determine who to draft over him. If Downs/Flowers/Hyatt/anybody gets 1st round DC and Boutte goes mid 2nd or worse then it's a no brainer. Always take the 1st round WR over value talent that falls.
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For the most part I agree but I will add the caveat that it also depends on player profiles. A guy like Hyatt will get boosted draft capital for speed/deep ability as that helps NFL offenses but doesn't matter for fantasy. But if an undersized, route runner like downs gets it it means a whole lot more. Saying that boutte is one of a buncha guys in contention for wr 4 for me but probably winds up wr5halfbaked88 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:25 am He's got the talent, but smart thing to do is let NFL draft capital determine who to draft over him. If Downs/Flowers/Hyatt/anybody gets 1st round DC and Boutte goes mid 2nd or worse then it's a no brainer. Always take the 1st round WR over value talent that falls.
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Re: Kayshon Boutte, WR
I’m skeptical of Hyatt, but I like Downs. I’ve just recently started looking into Zay Flowers. He looks really good.Mjvb5 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:24 amFor the most part I agree but I will add the caveat that it also depends on player profiles. A guy like Hyatt will get boosted draft capital for speed/deep ability as that helps NFL offenses but doesn't matter for fantasy. But if an undersized, route runner like downs gets it it means a whole lot more. Saying that boutte is one of a buncha guys in contention for wr 4 for me but probably winds up wr5halfbaked88 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:25 am He's got the talent, but smart thing to do is let NFL draft capital determine who to draft over him. If Downs/Flowers/Hyatt/anybody gets 1st round DC and Boutte goes mid 2nd or worse then it's a no brainer. Always take the 1st round WR over value talent that falls.
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Re: Kayshon Boutte, WR
That’ll get you guys like Sankey, Ruggs and Ross on your roster.halfbaked88 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:25 am He's got the talent, but smart thing to do is let NFL draft capital determine who to draft over him. If Downs/Flowers/Hyatt/anybody gets 1st round DC and Boutte goes mid 2nd or worse then it's a no brainer. Always take the 1st round WR over value talent that falls.
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Sankey? What does a 2nd round running back have to do with those wrs?Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:32 amThat’ll get you guys like Sankey, Ruggs and Ross on your roster.halfbaked88 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:25 am He's got the talent, but smart thing to do is let NFL draft capital determine who to draft over him. If Downs/Flowers/Hyatt/anybody gets 1st round DC and Boutte goes mid 2nd or worse then it's a no brainer. Always take the 1st round WR over value talent that falls.
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Re: Kayshon Boutte, WR
Very similar case to George Pickens. Both have the coveted freshman breakout in the SEC after being elite receiver recruits. Both are very talented. Boutte has a different game though as a YAC threat who kills in the slot. Boutte was on pace to smash those freshman numbers before the ankle injury as a sophomore and then had a weird year with Brian Kelly this year, which was a mixture of his fault and adjusting to a new staff.
If he gets similar draft pedigree as Pickens, I would be a buyer still.
If he gets similar draft pedigree as Pickens, I would be a buyer still.
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Re: Kayshon Boutte, WR
So draft capital only applies to WRs for you?JoeJoe88 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:02 pmSankey? What does a 2nd round running back have to do with those wrs?Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:32 amThat’ll get you guys like Sankey, Ruggs and Ross on your roster.halfbaked88 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:25 am He's got the talent, but smart thing to do is let NFL draft capital determine who to draft over him. If Downs/Flowers/Hyatt/anybody gets 1st round DC and Boutte goes mid 2nd or worse then it's a no brainer. Always take the 1st round WR over value talent that falls.
Re: Kayshon Boutte, WR
Brian Kelly is not a coach I put any stock in when a player doesn't gel. He is a joke. Boutte is going to be high risk/reward, but I love his upside
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Re: Kayshon Boutte, WR
I think that’s a credible line of thinking. I certainly am not a Brian Kelly fan either and feel that he is vastly overrated as a HC.
I also see Boutte as a high risk/high reward guy, but he’s one of the few in this draft who between physical attributes and apparent skills and talent has the potential to be an alpha WR. The downside is real though if the past year was not an anomaly.
Re: Kayshon Boutte, WR
Pickens has a vastly better Catch Radius IMOCameron Giles wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:00 pm Very similar case to George Pickens. Both have the coveted freshman breakout in the SEC after being elite receiver recruits. Both are very talented. Boutte has a different game though as a YAC threat who kills in the slot. Boutte was on pace to smash those freshman numbers before the ankle injury as a sophomore and then had a weird year with Brian Kelly this year, which was a mixture of his fault and adjusting to a new staff.
If he gets similar draft pedigree as Pickens, I would be a buyer still.
I agree they are very different player types.
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