Take this offer??

[Krissi24]

12 Team 0,5 ppr Starting:QB, 2RB, 4WR, TE, FLEX.

My Starters:
Russ, Carr, Baker
Dobbins, Javonte Williams, Rhamondre Stevenson, Pacheco, Herbert
Kupp, Diggs, Jameson Williams, Burks, Pickens, Bateman, DPJ
Knox, Bellinger, Otton

I have been given this offer:

I get Deebo and Miles Sanders
I give Bateman and Javonte Williams

Is this a Good deal for me or should I ask for 23 2nd (2.01 or 2.02) on top?

[Gator Sens]

Samuel has taken a major hit this year and despite a solid season, Sanders value is still pretty hit or miss manager to manager. I think you come out ahead on value based on Bateman missing important development time, but I can see Williams gaining value this offseason once he is back up and working out. The value is here though.

[Krissi24]

Thanks.
Yes I agree with your take on Deebo and Bateman. I know that Sanders is a bit of a gamble. He should be fine if he stays in Philly and he has a lot of upside if he ends up with the Bills or Chiefs. I Think a lot of teams will be looking to sign a FA RB this off season.
My concern is Javonte Williams. He is still young and a year ago he was a Dynasty darling. But coming of a serious injury, who knows.
Is the value there even Without the early 23 2nd

[murphysxm]

I don't see Miles seeing anywhere near the touches he has had in his career to date next season and beyond and he seems to be pretty volume dependent. I am holding here

[sloth8u]

I'm the type to generally prefer proven guys over prospects. I really like the trade with your build. I'm sure most prefer javonte over sanders, but regardless of any value rebound, alot of buyers are going to want to see it on the field. Deebo over Bateman by a mile I'd think. (And I'm a Bateman truther)

[krtbuckeye]

Further development of Aiyuk and adding CMC doesn’t give me much hope of a Deebo rebound (at least not to anything close to 2021 numbers) and I don’t know that Sanders lands a role significantly larger than what he has now anywhere else. I would prefer to just keep Williams/Bateman to see if either hits, as I think the ceiling is higher for Williams primarily, less so for Bateman.

[BigBawseRoss]

i think id take deebo and sanders here even if you dont like them i think you can turn them into safer assets than bateman and javonte and target young guys with similar upside

[tstafford]

Would come down to who I wanted to own b/w Deebo and J.Williams. The others are flex players and maybe low end ones at that. Sanders feels like a sell high frankly.

I think I'd rather own Deebo. It's a risk thing - we don't know how Williams recovers from the injury, there's a decent chance of a slow start in 2023. I do believe that there's a non-zero chance that Williams recovers fully and becomes the most valuable player in this deal. That is definitely possible. If you want that value upside, I totally get it.

[hord]

i would hold jwill and wait till his value and hype starts to go back up, and then sell. i am not even close to sold on him, i dont understand the hype,.... but a ton of people are high on him, and i think once talks start to ramp up on him practicing again and what not, his value will shoot up again... just my thoughts

[Krissi24]

The trade did not go through, but we kept the trade talks alive.

I got a new offer on the the table, but I not sure what to do!

I get Kenneth Walker and 23 2.01

I give Javonte Williams and Pickens/Jameson Williams

Is it too much to give or an easy accept?

I am struggling with the value difference between Walker and Javonte.

[Stone2987]

It sounds like this other manager really wants Javonte and on the cheap. I know it’s difficult but I would hold, at least until we hear more about the recovery. I sold low on ETN last off-season because I was worried about his injury and while it helped me win a title this year, I probably would’ve won with him anyway or could’ve gotten much more if I’d just waited a few more months to deal him but I got skittish. Now there is of course the possibility his recovery is slow and his value goes down, but I think it’s worth rolling the dice. I like Walker but Pickens and Jameson are both high value guys to add.

[BigBawseRoss]

The trade did not go through, but we kept the trade talks alive.

I got a new offer on the the table, but I not sure what to do!

I get Kenneth Walker and 23 2.01

I give Javonte Williams and Pickens/Jameson Williams

Is it too much to give or an easy accept?

I am struggling with the value difference between Walker and Javonte.

counter ken walker for javonte straight up

[Anteaters]

12 Team 0,5 ppr Starting:QB, 2RB, 4WR, TE, FLEX.

My Starters:
Russ, Carr, Baker
Dobbins, Javonte Williams, Rhamondre Stevenson, Pacheco, Herbert
Kupp, Diggs, Jameson Williams, Burks, Pickens, Bateman, DPJ
Knox, Bellinger, Otton

I have been given this offer:

I get Deebo and Miles Sanders
I give Bateman and Javonte Williams

Is this a Good deal for me or should I ask for 23 2nd (2.01 or 2.02) on top?

With your build, I'd prefer the better RB. For me (who's had shares of both Sanders and Javonte) I think Javonte is the better back.

if you lean toward accepting, definitely try to get something added.

[Krissi24]

Sorry…. Mabye a bit confusing mixing the new offer with the old one.

This is whats on the table now:

I get Kenneth Walker and 23 2.01

I give Javonte Williams and Pickens/Jameson Williams

Is it too much to give or an easy accept?

I am struggling with the value difference between Walker and Javonte.

[tstafford]

OP: What's your take on Jav. Williams re: injury? Does it worry you a lot? I'm asking because that would seem like the primary driver to do a deal like this. Pickens/Jam Williams are stud prospects. Jam Williams is a player I will target during rookie drafts in hopes of getting an owner who is enamored with the new guys over him. I still believe there is a change he will turn out to be the best of the 2022 class.