Andrews for ekeler

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which route

take Andrews for ekeler straight up
3
38%
ask for him to add white
2
25%
try ekeler higgins nuk for chase and andrews
3
38%
just play it out with schultz and my current squad
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Andrews for ekeler

Postby hord » Fri Nov 18, 2022 6:11 am

Was offered Andrews for my Ekeler.. team in sig one...
should i do this.... should i ask for more? was thinking of asking for rashadd white on top, but id really love to send a package for Chase and andrews.... maybe ekeler, higgins, hopkins?
his players of note...

Chase
chubb
kelce
andrews
g.wilson
rashadd white
hollywood


feel free to add a pole option
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Re: Andrews for ekeler

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Nov 18, 2022 7:03 am

andrews is a difference maker at a spot that has few and i expect him to last for many more years and ekeler i dont know if he makes it to end of season (mostly due to the nature of how often rbs seemingly get hurt, not a knock on him or his own personal durability)
team 1
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Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


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Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
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Re: Andrews for ekeler

Postby hord » Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:11 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 7:03 am andrews is a difference maker at a spot that has few and i expect him to last for many more years and ekeler i dont know if he makes it to end of season (mostly due to the nature of how often rbs seemingly get hurt, not a knock on him or his own personal durability)
do you think andrews is a big enough upgrade over schultz, to lose ekeler. i know i still have walker etienne and swift, but does this hurt my chances to win this year in losing ekeler?
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RB- [/b],Barkley, taylor, Etienne, jacobs, montgomery, hull, latavius, rodriguez jr
WR- diggs, kupp, A.J Brown, waddel, jamo
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Re: Andrews for ekeler

Postby mgregoirec » Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:18 am

Having Walker, Etienne and the Lions package is really good at RB.

But the scarcity of stud RBs tells me you should/could ask for something on top. Him having Chubb and Ekeler will likely give him the top-2 RB this year, so it's a good upgrade for him.

BUT, for the Chase-Andrews Package, I'd give Ekeler, Higgins and Dhop in a heartbeat (never really been a fan of Higgins, Ekeler has max 2 years left as for Dhop, maybe 3?). Good long term deal IMO.
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Re: Andrews for ekeler

Postby Anteaters » Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:45 am

mgregoirec wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:18 amBUT, for the Chase-Andrews Package, I'd give Ekeler, Higgins and Dhop in a heartbeat (never really been a fan of Higgins, Ekeler has max 2 years left as for Dhop, maybe 3?). Good long term deal IMO.
Agreed on all points.
Except, I'm not sure the other guy accepts this deal. If it's on the table, it's a smash accept.
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Re: Andrews for ekeler

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:48 am

hord wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:11 am
BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 7:03 am andrews is a difference maker at a spot that has few and i expect him to last for many more years and ekeler i dont know if he makes it to end of season (mostly due to the nature of how often rbs seemingly get hurt, not a knock on him or his own personal durability)
do you think andrews is a big enough upgrade over schultz, to lose ekeler. i know i still have walker etienne and swift, but does this hurt my chances to win this year in losing ekeler?
ya i dont care about schultz at all and dont think he will get signed so id have no confidence in him long term
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

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Re: Andrews for ekeler

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:59 am

I like the Andrews and Chase package if it is an option but I don't see that deal going through. I prefer Andres long term to Ekeler straight up in the original deal but I think it will hurt this year a bit. Ekeler will likely pile up numbers based on his receiving floor, but long term this is easily Andrews.

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Re: Andrews for ekeler

Postby hord » Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:05 am

he has countered with ekler and hopkins for andrews and white.
im thinking of countering with swift instead of ekler... thoughts?
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RB- [/b],Barkley, taylor, Etienne, jacobs, montgomery, hull, latavius, rodriguez jr
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Re: Andrews for ekeler

Postby hoos89 » Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:26 am

Andrews is far more valuable than Swift at this point. I don't think I'd take the counter (but I also tend to think Ekeler is way undervalued).
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JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
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IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
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Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
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Re: Andrews for ekeler

Postby hord » Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:41 am

hoos89 wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:26 am Andrews is far more valuable than Swift at this point. I don't think I'd take the counter (but I also tend to think Ekeler is way undervalued).
so would u rather have swift and hopkins, or andrews and rachadd white
considering my team in sig.
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12 team .5 ppr- Superflex
full dynasty start up (2022)

1Qb, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1F, 1SF, 1D, 1K, 8B

QB- Allen, Watson, cousins carr
RB- [/b],Barkley, taylor, Etienne, jacobs, montgomery, hull, latavius, rodriguez jr
WR- diggs, kupp, A.J Brown, waddel, jamo
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Re: Andrews for ekeler

Postby hoos89 » Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:47 am

hord wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:41 am
hoos89 wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:26 am Andrews is far more valuable than Swift at this point. I don't think I'd take the counter (but I also tend to think Ekeler is way undervalued).
so would u rather have swift and hopkins, or andrews and rachadd white
considering my team in sig.
Andrews and White, but I was more pointing out that I doubt that offer even gets considered.
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JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
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Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
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Re: Andrews for ekeler

Postby hord » Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:01 pm

hoos89 wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:47 am
hord wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:41 am
hoos89 wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:26 am Andrews is far more valuable than Swift at this point. I don't think I'd take the counter (but I also tend to think Ekeler is way undervalued).
so would u rather have swift and hopkins, or andrews and rachadd white
considering my team in sig.
Andrews and White, but I was more pointing out that I doubt that offer even gets considered.
ah i c...gee i guess im not high enough on andrews... cant hurt to offer i guess
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Re: Andrews for ekeler

Postby hoos89 » Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:05 pm

Andrews is arguably the most valuable TE in dynasty (frankly I'm not even sure I need to qualify that with "arguably"). Also Swift's value has absolutely plummeted in recent weeks.
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Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
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Re: Andrews for ekeler

Postby cvbuc » Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:44 pm

There are only three tiers of TEs right now:

TIER 1
Kelce

TIER 2
Andrews

TIER 3
Everyone else

Andrews is a young difference maker at the position where you can achieve the largest point differential advantage with Kelce and Andrews (when healthy).

I love Ekeler. Also - I think you're muddling an opportunity to land a real difference maker at the toughest position to find one by complicating matters with so many other players. My advice is to get Andrews. If you can do so without giving up Ekeler - amazing.

Side note: I'd be wary to undervalue Swift right now. That's the definition of recency bias. Look how many people gave up[ on Saquon and CMC over the past few years and are regretting it.
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Re: Andrews for ekeler

Postby hoos89 » Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:48 pm

That's true in redraft, but in dynasty Andrews and Kelce is at least on the same tier as Kelce given that Andrews is 6 years younger and I personally would prefer Andrews on any roster except for a contender with a window closing this season or next.

Also Swift has never had a season even close to CMC's or Barkley's peak seasons so I don't think it's fair to compare him to them. Yes he's talented and yes his value is depressed by injuries and lack of usage but he's also never really sustained elite production. Better comparison would be someone like Dobbins or Javonte Williams....or to an extent Najee (who is also ostensibly healthy right now and has not been producing). Yes you might regret selling him now, but he also might be worth less in a year.
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JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
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