Kenneth Walker Trade Offer

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Kenneth Walker Trade Offer

Postby davieglove34 » Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:39 pm

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Currently talking to the Walker owner about making a move for him. He owns Eno Benjamin and Josh Jacobs, and has been trying to get Zamir White from me all year.

Would a package of James Conner, Zamir White, a late '23-1st & late-2nd be enough to get the deal done?
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10-Team, .5-PPR, 1-QB

QB: Josh Allen / Geno Smith

RB: Austin Ekeler / Saquon Barkley / Joe Mixon / Kareem Hunt / Leonard Fournette / D’Onta Foreman

WR: Tyreek Hill / Justin Jefferson / Amari Cooper / Mike Evans / Jaxon Smith-Njigba / Odell Beckham Jr. / Demarcus Robinson / Darius Slayton

TE: George Kittle / Taysom Hill / Noah Fant

D/ST: 49ers

K: Tyler Bass

IR: Kendrick Bourne

Taxi: Zamir White / Cedric Tillman / Sean Tucker

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Re: Kenneth Walker Trade Offer

Postby ManuManu » Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:43 pm

Nope. Not even close.
Team 1, 10-team 0.5-PPR
QB (1): Richardson, Watson, Purdy
RB (2-3): Walker, Swift, Dobbins, R. White, Mitchell, Gainwell
WR (3-4): Hill, Godwin, Aiyuk, Flowers, N. Collins, Doubs, M. Wilson, Shakir
TE (1-2): McBride, Goedert, Okonkwo

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Re: Kenneth Walker Trade Offer

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:51 pm

ManuManu wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:43 pm Nope. Not even close.
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I don’t mean to be snarky but I don’t think you should be considering a high end RB. You can’t really afford it from what I can see.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
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HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
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BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Kenneth Walker Trade Offer

Postby davieglove34 » Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:53 pm

ManuManu wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:43 pm Nope. Not even close.
That's what I figured, although the trade calculator seems to like it:

Team A Trades
2023 1st (late) - 318.1
James Conner - 131.4
2023 2nd (late) - 114.7
Zamir White RB LV - 35.3

Total Value - 498.0

Team B Trades
Kenneth Walker - 478.2

Total Value - 478
2023 Champion
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QB: Josh Allen / Geno Smith

RB: Austin Ekeler / Saquon Barkley / Joe Mixon / Kareem Hunt / Leonard Fournette / D’Onta Foreman

WR: Tyreek Hill / Justin Jefferson / Amari Cooper / Mike Evans / Jaxon Smith-Njigba / Odell Beckham Jr. / Demarcus Robinson / Darius Slayton

TE: George Kittle / Taysom Hill / Noah Fant

D/ST: 49ers

K: Tyler Bass

IR: Kendrick Bourne

Taxi: Zamir White / Cedric Tillman / Sean Tucker

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Re: Kenneth Walker Trade Offer

Postby davieglove34 » Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:54 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:51 pm
ManuManu wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:43 pm Nope. Not even close.
X2

I don’t mean to be snarky but I don’t think you should be considering a high end RB. You can’t really afford it from what I can see.
Not snarky at all, I greatly appreciate the honest opinion
2023 Champion
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QB: Josh Allen / Geno Smith

RB: Austin Ekeler / Saquon Barkley / Joe Mixon / Kareem Hunt / Leonard Fournette / D’Onta Foreman

WR: Tyreek Hill / Justin Jefferson / Amari Cooper / Mike Evans / Jaxon Smith-Njigba / Odell Beckham Jr. / Demarcus Robinson / Darius Slayton

TE: George Kittle / Taysom Hill / Noah Fant

D/ST: 49ers

K: Tyler Bass

IR: Kendrick Bourne

Taxi: Zamir White / Cedric Tillman / Sean Tucker

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Re: Kenneth Walker Trade Offer

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:07 pm

Trade calculators are not to be trusted and this offer is very light. I am guessing there are plenty that have Walker as a top 5 back in dynasty moving forward.

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Re: Kenneth Walker Trade Offer

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:17 pm

davieglove34 wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:53 pm
ManuManu wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:43 pm Nope. Not even close.
That's what I figured, although the trade calculator seems to like it:

Team A Trades
2023 1st (late) - 318.1
James Conner - 131.4
2023 2nd (late) - 114.7
Zamir White RB LV - 35.3

Total Value - 498.0

Team B Trades
Kenneth Walker - 478.2

Total Value - 478
They can be an accurate gauge however in this scenario I think they’re way overvaluing Conner and white in the equation.

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Re: Kenneth Walker Trade Offer

Postby abloom » Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:26 pm

davieglove34 wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:53 pm
ManuManu wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:43 pm Nope. Not even close.
That's what I figured, although the trade calculator seems to like it:

Team A Trades
2023 1st (late) - 318.1
James Conner - 131.4
2023 2nd (late) - 114.7
Zamir White RB LV - 35.3

Total Value - 498.0

Team B Trades
Kenneth Walker - 478.2

Total Value - 478

except that if you are only starting the 1st rounder its 318 to 478 and if you are starting 1st, conner,and 2nd, its 3 positions to 1.

you to either keep the value relatively the same while decreasing the pieces you are sending, or you have to increase the value and keep the number of pieces the same.

calculators really should only be used to get an idea of relative perceived value and should be used with a balanced number of players/picks on each side.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Team #6 orphan
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Re: Kenneth Walker Trade Offer

Postby Cherokee » Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:33 pm

I dont think a mid 1st plus a late 1st gets him in a 1QB
12 Team 1QB IDP Full PPR Start 8
QB- Kenny Pickett, Jake Haener, Clayton Tune
RB- Jerrick McKinnon, Elijah Mitchell, Gus Edwards, Kenneth Gainwell, TDP, Jordan Mason
WR- Rondale Moore, Drake London, Jordan Addison, Terrence Marshall , Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Mecole Hardman, Rashid Shaheed, David Bell
TE- Michael Mayer, Likely, Chig, Cade Otten
LB- Jewell, Deablo, Troy Anderson
DE- Phillips, Highsmith
DB- Brisker, Hufanga, Cine
Taxi Squad: Chase Brown, A.T. Perry, Keaton Mitchell, Khalan Laborn, Lew Nichols lll

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Re: Kenneth Walker Trade Offer

Postby CGW » Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:38 am

Calculators dont do a great job of adjusting for the quality vs quantity aspect of trades. Eventually if you throw enough junk into a trade it adds up enough calculator value to make trades look even. In the end, almost everyone would rather have the stud and roster spots than a bunch of hope and fluff.

If you want Walker, you will probably need to start with two of your firsts.

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Re: Kenneth Walker Trade Offer

Postby Tobin » Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:29 am

Calculators are nice to get ball park values etc... But I can add a bunch of crap to one side to equal the value of a Stud, but that still does not make it a good trade.

If I am the Walker owner nothing in that trade makes sense for me except the 1st but I would need minimum 2 and they would have to be at least mid picks to start chatting.
TEAM 1:
12 team 6pt passing TD - 6pts other TDs / 1 ppr
Start QB,2RB,3WR,TE,1Flex,1K,1DST
QB: Fields, Jones, Flacco, Browning
RB: Bijan, Barkley, Swift, K.Williams, J.Warren, Hunt
WR: J.Jefferson, Lamb, D.Adams, Pittman, London, M.Evans, R.Moore, E.Moore
TE: Hockenson, Kmet, Dulcich, Johnson, Otton

TEAM 2:
12 team 4pt passing TD - 6pts other TDs / 1 ppr
Start QB,2RB,3WR,TE,1Flex,1K,1DST
QB: Dak, Pickett, Levis, Browning
RB: Achaine, Gibbs, Spears, Javonte, Gibson
WR: Lamb, Pittman, DJM, J.Williams, JSN, Burks, J.Dotson, E.Moore,
TE: Hockenson, Ferguso, Dulcich, Musgrave

TEAM 3:
12 team 6pt passing TD - 6pts other TDs / 1 pp1 - Superflex, TE Premium
1 QB / 2 RB / 3 WR / 1 TE / 2 Flex / SFlex
QB: Burrow, Richardson, Jones, O'Connell, Zappe
RB: Gibbs, K.Williams, Dobbins, CEH, R.Johnson
WR: Lamb, Pittman, G.Wilson, M.Brown, Sutton, Burks, Z.Jones, D.Douglas, Tillman
TE: Hockenson, Kincaid, Dulcich, Musgrave, Kraft

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Re: Kenneth Walker Trade Offer

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:59 pm

its light, walker is being treated as the rb1 now by owners.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp


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