How much is reasonable to ask for trading down from 1.01 to 1.02?

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How much is reasonable to ask for trading down from 1.01 to 1.02?

Postby creeperReaper42 » Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:44 am

Ken Walker is my guy, so figure it makes sense to try and trade down a spot if possible, especially since the 1.02 owner has Michael Carter and probably would want Hall.

How much do people value the 1.01 > 1.02? I'm guessing asking for 2.02 would be too much, but would 3.02 be reasonable?
10 team league, 30 man rosters, .5 PPR:

QB: Smith
R. Wilson, Willis, Walker, Thompson
RB: Walker, Stevenson
Penny, Dobbins, Akers, K. Williams, K. Hill
WR: Chase, Pittman, Pickens
E. Moore, R. Moore, Doubs, Meyers, MVS, R. Anderson, Philips, A. Robinson, Thornton
TE: Everett
Schultz, Ferguson, Otton, Kolar
K: Butker

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Re: How much is reasonable to ask for trading down from 1.01 to 1.02?

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:46 am

I think a 2nd on top is a fair ask. Hall is the unquestioned 1.01 in the class and even though you are only moving back one spot, when there is no other real option as the 1.01 in a class, that comes with added value. A 2nd on top is absolutely fair to ask in this class.

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Re: How much is reasonable to ask for trading down from 1.01 to 1.02?

Postby Beer Makes Me Smile » Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:51 am

I agree with Gator. I do think Walker and Hall are closer than the consensus is, but I am in the minority there. I do not think you will have a hard time getting a 2nd on top

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Re: How much is reasonable to ask for trading down from 1.01 to 1.02?

Postby murphysxm » Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:52 am

I made the same move early draft season and got DK Metcalf added to move back to 1.02
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts

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Re: How much is reasonable to ask for trading down from 1.01 to 1.02?

Postby Gazzerk » Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:53 am

I think asking the 2.02 is light. I have seen people add picks like 1.06-1.10 or even higher to move up that one spot. I personally like KW3 a lot but not everybody does. I've seen someone trade 1.02, 1.04 and 1.11 to move up that one spot. I'd rather ask for that other team's 2023 1st to move back that spot and maybe their 2.02 as well. I think that will get you some great value. Breece's value is currently so far ahead of Walker that you have all the right to ask for a return like that.
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Re: How much is reasonable to ask for trading down from 1.01 to 1.02?

Postby zaner75 » Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:53 am

3.02 is way too light. 2.02 should be snap-accepted if you look at where Hall vs Walker are going in startup ADP and who the 2.02 is likely to be. Ask the 1.02 manager if they're interested in the move-up. If they're not, then you don't need to waste further time and energy.

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Re: How much is reasonable to ask for trading down from 1.01 to 1.02?

Postby dblj1199 » Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:02 am

I think you simply offer him 1.1 for 1.2 and 2.2 and maybe throw him the 3.1 to make it happen if he rejects the deal. Go get your guy.
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Re: How much is reasonable to ask for trading down from 1.01 to 1.02?

Postby creeperReaper42 » Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:07 pm

Cool, thanks for the responses! Sounds like people view the gap as larger than I realized, so will try to get more in return.
10 team league, 30 man rosters, .5 PPR:

QB: Smith
R. Wilson, Willis, Walker, Thompson
RB: Walker, Stevenson
Penny, Dobbins, Akers, K. Williams, K. Hill
WR: Chase, Pittman, Pickens
E. Moore, R. Moore, Doubs, Meyers, MVS, R. Anderson, Philips, A. Robinson, Thornton
TE: Everett
Schultz, Ferguson, Otton, Kolar
K: Butker

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Re: How much is reasonable to ask for trading down from 1.01 to 1.02?

Postby cvbuc » Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:53 pm

Getting only the 2.2 is too light.
You're giving away a better back in a better offense for just a second rounder?
I'd think bigger here for sure. Look to upgrade elsewhere on your roster as well - not just picks.
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Re: How much is reasonable to ask for trading down from 1.01 to 1.02?

Postby noen10 » Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:11 pm

In my league, I traded the 1.03 23 1st for Ekler, 1.5 23 3rd and 24 3rd.

So I feel like you could get a lot more.
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Re: How much is reasonable to ask for trading down from 1.01 to 1.02?

Postby Bulletproof » Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:50 pm

Personally, I view Hall as a much much better prospect than Walker so I would want like the 1.06 to move back off of Breece Hall
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RB: Gibbs, Etienne, Pacheco, Javonte Williams, Chase Brown
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Re: How much is reasonable to ask for trading down from 1.01 to 1.02?

Postby Bennyblanco22 » Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:57 pm

You're selling yourself way short if you just ask for the 2.2. I personally would want at least his next 2 2nds (2.2 and 23 2nd) and that's literally the bare minimum I would even open a DM to consider. Id want to do something like:

give 1.1, 23 2nd
get 1.2, 23 1st, (and 2.2 or 3.2)

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Re: How much is reasonable to ask for trading down from 1.01 to 1.02?

Postby Tobin » Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:01 pm

Piling on, trading back from 1.01 to 1.02 and only asking for the 2nd from him is way way light especially in this 2022 draft class.... I would try to add a young WR also from his team if he has one...
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QB: Fields, Jones, Flacco, Browning
RB: Bijan, Barkley, Swift, K.Williams, J.Warren, Hunt
WR: J.Jefferson, Lamb, D.Adams, Pittman, London, M.Evans, R.Moore, E.Moore
TE: Hockenson, Kmet, Dulcich, Johnson, Otton

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QB: Dak, Pickett, Levis, Browning
RB: Achaine, Gibbs, Spears, Javonte, Gibson
WR: Lamb, Pittman, DJM, J.Williams, JSN, Burks, J.Dotson, E.Moore,
TE: Hockenson, Ferguso, Dulcich, Musgrave

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QB: Burrow, Richardson, Jones, O'Connell, Zappe
RB: Gibbs, K.Williams, Dobbins, CEH, R.Johnson
WR: Lamb, Pittman, G.Wilson, M.Brown, Sutton, Burks, Z.Jones, D.Douglas, Tillman
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Re: How much is reasonable to ask for trading down from 1.01 to 1.02?

Postby MacDaddy123 » Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:40 pm

murphysxm wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:52 am I made the same move early draft season and got DK Metcalf added to move back to 1.02
WOW!!!
That is a great move!!!

All I got for trading 1.01 for 1.02 was Chase Claypool.

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Re: How much is reasonable to ask for trading down from 1.01 to 1.02?

Postby Anteaters » Tue Aug 23, 2022 3:26 am

Bennyblanco22 wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:57 pm You're selling yourself way short if you just ask for the 2.2. I personally would want at least his next 2 2nds (2.2 and 23 2nd) and that's literally the bare minimum I would even open a DM to consider. Id want to do something like:

give 1.1, 23 2nd
get 1.2, 23 1st, (and 2.2 or 3.2)
++
I agree with 1.1 for 1.2 + 2.2 and '23 2nd.
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