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T. Higgins
What are people's thoughts on Higgins? Is this the new JuJu or is he for real? He's being posted as a top 18 in startup despite ranking WR28 and WR17 in his first two years. Yes his trajectory is pointing up, but is it already too high give that he'll never technically be the WR1 with Chase in town.
Curious what other people's thoughts on him. Sell at the peak or stay the course? I just don't see him ever posting true WR1 numbers.
Curious what other people's thoughts on him. Sell at the peak or stay the course? I just don't see him ever posting true WR1 numbers.
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Re: T. Higgins
If you can get top 18 startup value for him then definitely sell but I think he can definitely be a perennial 75-1000-6 type of WR in Zac Taylor's offense, he's clearly jumped Boyd as the WR2 in Cincy from what I can see and Taylor comes from the McVay coaching tree that gave use several 1100+ yard seasons from both Woods and Kupp in LA (and another 900+ season during 2020 that was wonky because of covid) so I think there's plenty of opportunity for Higgins to produce, his ceiling is just very handicapped with Chase there. If Chase ever gets hurt though I think Higgins is good enough to be the 1 there for however long Chase is out and he has the potential to be a 95-1300-10 type of guy in that situation (with Boyd moving up into what Higgins role is now).YouMightDieTryin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:04 pm What are people's thoughts on Higgins? Is this the new JuJu or is he for real? He's being posted as a top 18 in startup despite ranking WR28 and WR17 in his first two years. Yes his trajectory is pointing up, but is it already too high give that he'll never technically be the WR1 with Chase in town.
Curious what other people's thoughts on him. Sell at the peak or stay the course? I just don't see him ever posting true WR1 numbers.
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Re: T. Higgins
I like Higgins quite a bit, but I expect him to exit CIN because I don't think they're going to pay him his market value with Burrows and Chase to sign behind him.
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Re: T. Higgins
Agreed. But the talent is there and I agree with the other poster that he could be a WR1 on teams, but should remain valuable as a WR2. Should be a solid WR2 in fantasy and I wouldn't be surprised at a top 12 finish.
Re: T. Higgins
He is a way better WR than JuJu. JuJu simply was not offered a big deal because he wasn't that good at the end of his contract.The rest of the league agreed.
I do see Higgens being traded before they let him walk. I agree that Cincy won't be able to afford to both WR's unless he takes a big discount. He looks like a sell player but don't sell him cheap.
I do see Higgens being traded before they let him walk. I agree that Cincy won't be able to afford to both WR's unless he takes a big discount. He looks like a sell player but don't sell him cheap.
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Re: T. Higgins
"Juju-esque". Playing behind AB and showcasing some great talent only to flop like a fish in the light. I do think there's a different mentality with Higgins that he actually wants it versus Juju just wanting the attention, but can he live up to the hype?Ice wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:53 pm He is a way better WR than JuJu. JuJu simply was not offered a big deal because he wasn't that good at the end of his contract.The rest of the league agreed.
I do see Higgens being traded before they let him walk. I agree that Cincy won't be able to afford to both WR's unless he takes a big discount. He looks like a sell player but don't sell him cheap.
If I owned him I'd sell for the top 18 value return, but I don't see paying that price for him personally.
Re: T. Higgins
I'd love to acquire him at the right price.
If I owned him, I'd sell high.
If I owned him, I'd sell high.
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Re: T. Higgins
Thanks. It was 2 years old so I wanted fresh takes. Made sense just to create a new thread than bump an old one and confuse everyone.
Edit: OCR even posted in that previous thread. That would really throw people off.
Re: T. Higgins
Same & great point. He is signed thru 2023 at least, thankfully.
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Re: T. Higgins
He had a great rookie year with no QB half the year and without chase, this progression feels much more natural with a fully healthy burrow and a classic Y2 breakout than due to playing opposite chase. I'd easily pay a top 8 wr price for him
Re: T. Higgins
In the games they played together Higgins was actually targeted more and averaged more catches per game . Higgins had 110 targets in 14 games last year and Chase had 128 in 17. Higgins also averaged more catches per game 5.0 to 4.7 . Chase is the bigger downfield threat while Higgins is the chain mover. Id say. its more of a 1A and 1B situation. Plenty of targets for both of them to have big years.
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Re: T. Higgins
I'd say he's a great buy, but he's WR6 on KTC, so it's not like he can be had at a value.
Re: T. Higgins
Higgins had more targets because Chase was a rookie who had missed an entire year of football. Now that Chase is seasoned, it should be expected that the clearly superior talent will receive more targets if the QB is smart.KingsKing wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:35 am In the games they played together Higgins was actually targeted more and averaged more catches per game . Higgins had 110 targets in 14 games last year and Chase had 128 in 17. Higgins also averaged more catches per game 5.0 to 4.7 . Chase is the bigger downfield threat while Higgins is the chain mover. Id say. its more of a 1A and 1B situation. Plenty of targets for both of them to have big years.
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WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
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QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
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RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver, Waller
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Re: T. Higgins
Anteaters wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:22 amHiggins had more targets because Chase was a rookie who had missed an entire year of football. Now that Chase is seasoned, it should be expected that the clearly superior talent will receive more targets if the QB is smart. Higgins is very good. Chase is great.KingsKing wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:35 am In the games they played together Higgins was actually targeted more and averaged more catches per game . Higgins had 110 targets in 14 games last year and Chase had 128 in 17. Higgins also averaged more catches per game 5.0 to 4.7 . Chase is the bigger downfield threat while Higgins is the chain mover. Id say. its more of a 1A and 1B situation. Plenty of targets for both of them to have big years.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver, Waller
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver, Waller
2023 semifinals loser
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