Drake london startup value

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Drake london startup value

Postby jponte3 » Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:26 am

How early would people be willing to take drake london in a 12 team superflex startup if your building your team on the younger side? How do you value him compared to guys like metcalf, Dj moore, diontae Johnson etc.
Appreciate any feedback!
12 team Superflex, 1/2 point PPR, 1 point TEP, Start 11 spots
QB: D Watson, J hurts., T. Lance, S. howell
RB: Bijan, B Hall, J. Gibbs, A kamara, J. Ford, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell
WR: J. Chase, G. wilson, C. Watson, J. Dotson, , R. shaheed, C. austin, T. Scott, T. Tucker
TE: P. Freurmuth, J. Johnson, C. otton, T. Kraft

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Re: Drake london startup value

Postby BigBawseRoss » Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:40 am

value him less than those guys
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Drake london startup value

Postby BigBawseRoss » Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:41 am

jeudy, d smith, eli moore tier id say
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Drake london startup value

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:36 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:41 am jeudy, d smith, eli moore tier id say
x2 - this seems like a fair range to grab London.

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Re: Drake london startup value

Postby Ice » Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:53 am

I personally think London has a high bust factor but I might gamble on him over DJM due to red zone opportunity but even that is iffy.

London just isn't the type of player I like. Great size but that sloth like speed leads to massive separation issues. He is not without route skill like most larger slow WR's so he may be okay but too much risk for me.

Diontae and DK are several rounds better IMO.
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Re: Drake london startup value

Postby jponte3 » Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:38 am

Ice wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:53 am I personally think London has a high bust factor but I might gamble on him over DJM due to red zone opportunity but even that is iffy.

London just isn't the type of player I like. Great size but that sloth like speed leads to massive separation issues. He is not without route skill like most larger slow WR's so he may be okay but too much risk for me.

Diontae and DK are several rounds better IMO.
I do respectfully disagree with you on the separation issues. I feel thats the common misconception due to some recent guys like nkeal harry etc, but if you look at his tape consistently in college he definitely separates quite well and I feel that certain things that analyze this in detail such as matt harmons reception perception have kind of proven this to be inaccurate
12 team Superflex, 1/2 point PPR, 1 point TEP, Start 11 spots
QB: D Watson, J hurts., T. Lance, S. howell
RB: Bijan, B Hall, J. Gibbs, A kamara, J. Ford, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell
WR: J. Chase, G. wilson, C. Watson, J. Dotson, , R. shaheed, C. austin, T. Scott, T. Tucker
TE: P. Freurmuth, J. Johnson, C. otton, T. Kraft

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Re: Drake london startup value

Postby Mjvb5 » Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:46 am

In the pittman, diontae, godwin, terry, hill range for me so like 5th round probably

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Re: Drake london startup value

Postby Ice » Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:52 am

jponte3 wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:38 am
Ice wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:53 am I personally think London has a high bust factor but I might gamble on him over DJM due to red zone opportunity but even that is iffy.

London just isn't the type of player I like. Great size but that sloth like speed leads to massive separation issues. He is not without route skill like most larger slow WR's so he may be okay but too much risk for me.

Diontae and DK are several rounds better IMO.
I do respectfully disagree with you on the separation issues. I feel thats the common misconception due to some recent guys like nkeal harry etc, but if you look at his tape consistently in college he definitely separates quite well and I feel that certain things that analyze this in detail such as matt harmons reception perception have kind of proven this to be inaccurate
No worries many do disagree.

My take is NFL quality DB's are vastly better than those in the Pac 10. Harry is was open a ton in college as well. Granted I believe and stated London does have some route skill to hopefully offset his sloth like speed. Pitt's on the same team is bigger, stronger, and way faster which also may help in taking some pressure off but one can analyze every college play but in the end NFL quality DB's can defeat the vast majority of 4.7 plus speed IMO which is what I think he really runs. I know he said his fastest time was 4.5 but that was probably hand timed.

His upside to me is may be a M. Colston although Colston was way faster so if you like him I concede he could be that. He doesn't profile against many really good players. I think his comp by NFL combine scouts was McCaffrey so he does have his fans.
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Re: Drake london startup value

Postby jponte3 » Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:01 am

Ice wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:52 am
jponte3 wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:38 am
Ice wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:53 am I personally think London has a high bust factor but I might gamble on him over DJM due to red zone opportunity but even that is iffy.

London just isn't the type of player I like. Great size but that sloth like speed leads to massive separation issues. He is not without route skill like most larger slow WR's so he may be okay but too much risk for me.

Diontae and DK are several rounds better IMO.
I do respectfully disagree with you on the separation issues. I feel thats the common misconception due to some recent guys like nkeal harry etc, but if you look at his tape consistently in college he definitely separates quite well and I feel that certain things that analyze this in detail such as matt harmons reception perception have kind of proven this to be inaccurate
No worries many do disagree.

My take is NFL quality DB's are vastly better than those in the Pac 10. Harry is was open a ton in college as well. Granted I believe and stated London does have some route skill to hopefully offset his sloth like speed. Pitt's on the same team is bigger, stronger, and way faster which also may help in taking some pressure off but one can analyze every college play but in the end NFL quality DB's can defeat the vast majority of 4.7 plus speed IMO which is what I think he really runs. I know he said his fastest time was 4.5 but that was probably hand timed.

His upside to me is may be a M. Colston although Colston was way faster so if you like him I concede he could be that. He doesn't profile against many really good players. I think his comp by NFL combine scouts was McCaffrey so he does have his fans.
If you truly feel that his 40 time is 4.7+ then i certainly understand where your coming from. I personally just do not feel that that is the case. 4.7+ is truly like the bottom 3-5% of wrs. While i dont think hes fast by anymeans, I do feel he is certainly faster than that.
12 team Superflex, 1/2 point PPR, 1 point TEP, Start 11 spots
QB: D Watson, J hurts., T. Lance, S. howell
RB: Bijan, B Hall, J. Gibbs, A kamara, J. Ford, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell
WR: J. Chase, G. wilson, C. Watson, J. Dotson, , R. shaheed, C. austin, T. Scott, T. Tucker
TE: P. Freurmuth, J. Johnson, C. otton, T. Kraft

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Re: Drake london startup value

Postby XclickX » Thu Jun 16, 2022 12:37 pm

I’d take him slightly before DJM, DK, Diontae but they are all in a tier so just take your fave.

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Re: Drake london startup value

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Jun 16, 2022 12:41 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:41 am jeudy, d smith, eli moore tier id say
This is a good ballpark for him.

I have my WR1 in this class as player #48 in a SF, 2TE startup I'm about to embark on
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
/
TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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