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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:56 pm
by mild
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:12 pm
yinzername wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:09 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:00 pm
Who do you like better—Adonai Mitchell or Ladd McConkey?
Lately leaning Ladd
I’ve seen a lot of Ladd hype. I don’t follow cfb, so I’m wondering, if he’s so good, why was he in college for 4 years and why wasn’t his production all that great?
The answer is injuries.
He crushes in a lot of efficiency metrics because not only was he off the field a lot rehabbing, he also wasn't used as a full time player even when he was having his best season.
Without a doubt Ladd
has an incredible profile that resembles more than a few pretty good players.
Pretty reasonable to be worried about him making the jump to the Pros health-wise, though. It's not like it gets -less- physical.
AD Mitchell won't struggle physically, we know that much. For him, it's...
pretty much everything else.
Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:03 pm
by Jigga94
wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:00 pm
Who do you like better—Adonai Mitchell or Ladd McConkey?
Mitchell is my WR4 right now
Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:11 pm
by mild
Jigga94 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:03 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:00 pm
Who do you like better—Adonai Mitchell or Ladd McConkey?
Mitchell is my WR4 right now
You might be sleeping on Ladd... I know I was...
Read those profile links I posted and tell me what you think
Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:15 pm
by Lumps
Can't wait for the Commies to break the hearts of Bears fans.
https://twitter.com/Gcarmi21/status/1770526533184094664
Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:22 pm
by Dynasty DeLorean
mild wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:56 pm
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:12 pm
yinzername wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:09 pm
Lately leaning Ladd
I’ve seen a lot of Ladd hype. I don’t follow cfb, so I’m wondering, if he’s so good, why was he in college for 4 years and why wasn’t his production all that great?
The answer is injuries.
He crushes in a lot of efficiency metrics because not only was he off the field a lot rehabbing, he also wasn't used as a full time player even when he was having his best season.
Without a doubt Ladd
has an incredible profile that resembles more than a few pretty good players.
Pretty reasonable to be worried about him making the jump to the Pros health-wise, though. It's not like it gets -less- physical.
AD Mitchell won't struggle physically, we know that much. For him, it's...
pretty much everything else.
Thanks. Interesting.
Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:30 pm
by Lumps
Part of the deal with AD at Texas is this: Average Depth of Target (aDOT): 16.0
He was never used on screens/hitches/shallow stuff. Can he? I dunno. If it was just how they used him due to Worthy, Wittingham, and JT ... then it isn't really on him. History is littered with misses and some hits on this kind of profile.
Also, Ewers is mid at best.
Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:10 pm
by wickerkat1212
Ladd had good YPRR. Relatively low drop rate. Good YAC. 4.39 40.
Mitchell had 4.34 40. 9.88 RAS. Very low drop rate.
Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:17 pm
by mild
wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:10 pm
Ladd had good YPRR. Relatively low drop rate. Good YAC. 4.39 40.
Mitchell had 4.34 40. 9.88 RAS. Very low drop rate.
(and bottom-barrel YPRR)
Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:44 pm
by Cameron Giles
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:12 pm
yinzername wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:09 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:00 pm
Who do you like better—Adonai Mitchell or Ladd McConkey?
Lately leaning Ladd
I’ve seen a lot of Ladd hype. I don’t follow cfb, so I’m wondering, if he’s so good, why was he in college for 4 years and why wasn’t his production all that great?
I'm having trouble remembering the last Georgia WR with good raw production.
That said, McConkey does check some nice boxes statistically that should translate. Cashed a lot of first downs in that offense, feasted on zone, and his separation statistics match the skill on tape. Still a tough projection though to bet against things like breakout, YPTT, and age adjusted production numbers. But, he just looks the part whenever you watch games.
Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 5:53 pm
by TheTroll
Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:44 pm
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:12 pm
yinzername wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:09 pm
Lately leaning Ladd
I’ve seen a lot of Ladd hype. I don’t follow cfb, so I’m wondering, if he’s so good, why was he in college for 4 years and why wasn’t his production all that great?
I'm having trouble remembering the last Georgia WR with good raw production.
That said, McConkey does check some nice boxes statistically that should translate. Cashed a lot of first downs in that offense, feasted on zone, and his separation statistics match the skill on tape. Still a tough projection though to bet against things like breakout, YPTT, and age adjusted production numbers. But, he just looks the part whenever you watch games.
AJ Green!
Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:00 pm
by wickerkat1212
mild wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:17 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:10 pm
Ladd had good YPRR. Relatively low drop rate. Good YAC. 4.39 40.
Mitchell had 4.34 40. 9.88 RAS. Very low drop rate.
(and bottom-barrel YPRR)
That's the red flag on Mitchel, the low YPRR.
Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:18 pm
by mild
wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:00 pm
mild wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:17 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:10 pm
Ladd had good YPRR. Relatively low drop rate. Good YAC. 4.39 40.
Mitchell had 4.34 40. 9.88 RAS. Very low drop rate.
(and bottom-barrel YPRR)
That's the red flag on Mitchel, the low YPRR.
Correct.
Weird that you would list Ladd's YPRR and omit Mitchell's when ostensibly comparing them back-to-back.
Carry on.
Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:33 pm
by FantasyFreak
TBH, as far as pro days go, his was pretty meh.
Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:35 pm
by mild
More Jonathon Brooks smoke.
Texas RB Jonathon Brooks told me he has a Top 30-visit scheduled with the Dallas Cowboys.
He remains on track in his recovery and is expected to be cleared in time for training camp.
https://twitter.com/NickHarrisDC/status ... 5478976782
So first they did his surgery, and now they're using one of their allocated Top 30 visits to bring him in for a chat...
They're picking 24th. (And then 56th, which is obviously more likely)
Imagine...
Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:23 pm
by wickerkat1212
mild wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:18 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:00 pm
mild wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:17 pm
(and bottom-barrel YPRR)
That's the red flag on Mitchel, the low YPRR.
Correct.
Weird that you would list Ladd's YPRR and omit Mitchell's when ostensibly comparing them back-to-back.
Carry on.
Wasn't intentional. I have some stats in a few documents, and one had +data and another had red flags. His YPRR being so low (I think I showed it on that chart) was definitely a concern of mine.
OOF, this is a brutal take. Adanoi is this year's QJ? Damn.
https://twitter.com/ffbcaptain/status/1 ... 2553256203
