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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby Anteaters » Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:14 am

Payton34 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:29 pm Side note: Is anyone else wondering why the Jets aren’t in the QB market? They literally lost Rodgers 4 plays into last season. He’s old as f*ck. But they’re acting like they’re set at the position.

Did they learn nothing from last year? It’s sad to see that roster wasted year after year with crap QB play.
They learned from Aaron's years in GB what happens when his GM drafts a QB in the 1st round. Aaron takes off his diaper and starts crapping all over the place, stomping around and crying about how unhappy he is.

The Jets knew the devil they were dealing with, and now they're just going to have to let him burn the house down. Really just a stupid trade from the beginning. Now they're going to waste a golden opportunity to trade for a high draft pick to get a QB of the future, because they're worried about how Aaron is going to react to them not drafting a player he thinks is good for HIM. Then when he leads the Jets to a 9-8 season and the team is ready to move on from Aaron, their 2025 draft pick won't be high enough to get a good rookie QB. :whistle:

It's going to be a long slow climb back up that hill to respectability.
mild wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:11 pmIf they don't have a winning season this year, everyone's fired anyway - FO, and Coaches.
I'm putting the over/under on the date at Jan9, 2025. One day after the regular season ends.
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TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby Payton34 » Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:16 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:13 pm Who is somebody you're avoiding in the draft?
Who is somebody you're going to reach on in this draft?

I'm avoiding Legette and Coleman.
I'm reaching on Pearsall and Bowers in TEP (if it even IS a reach).
Avoiding: JJ McCarthy (not onboard that hype machine) and Brian Thomas Jr (my understanding is he is a great NFL prospect, but not the type of WR that’s going to be a fantasy star).

Reaching: Trey Benson (Homer pick, but people are focusing too hard on his ‘23 tape and not watching his ‘22 tape where he really popped). Franklin and Pearce (not just Presidential, but both seem extremely talented with questions about their body types? Heard a fantasy dude opine that it really doesn’t matter anymore in today’s NFL because DBs have been effectively nerfed from heavy hitting anyway)
12 teams, 6pts all TDs, 1/2 pt PPR. 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1K, 1D, 2 FLEX RB/WR/TE

QBs - P Mahomes,
RBs - Bijan, J Jacobs, K Walker, B Hall,
WRs - AJ Brown, J Waddle, DJ Moore, T Higgins, D London, Smith-Njigba, J Downs, AT Perry
TEs - D Kincaid, Musgrave
Ks - Boswell, McPherson
Ds - Texans, Jets

2024 - 3 1st rounders... Picks 1.5, 1.7, 1.11… 1 2nd 2.17… 1 3rd 3.31…

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby TheTroll » Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:47 am

Payton34 wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:16 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:13 pm Who is somebody you're avoiding in the draft?
Who is somebody you're going to reach on in this draft?

I'm avoiding Legette and Coleman.
I'm reaching on Pearsall and Bowers in TEP (if it even IS a reach).
Avoiding: JJ McCarthy (not onboard that hype machine) and Brian Thomas Jr (my understanding is he is a great NFL prospect, but not the type of WR that’s going to be a fantasy star).

Reaching: Trey Benson (Homer pick, but people are focusing too hard on his ‘23 tape and not watching his ‘22 tape where he really popped). Franklin and Pearce (not just Presidential, but both seem extremely talented with questions about their body types? Heard a fantasy dude opine that it really doesn’t matter anymore in today’s NFL because DBs have been effectively nerfed from heavy hitting anyway)
JJM is going to be elite in a PPH league (Points per handoff)
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby tstafford » Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:29 am

The hype machine around JJM is incredible. I remember saying ~3 months ago that he looked like he could be a steal in SF drafts. Now he might have moved so much to be an "avoid at cost". And all this has happened w/o any new information (other than combine I guess). If he goes to MIN, it's going to get crazy.

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby Pac_Eddy » Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:27 am

tstafford wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:29 am The hype machine around JJM is incredible. I remember saying ~3 months ago that he looked like he could be a steal in SF drafts. Now he might have moved so much to be an "avoid at cost". And all this has happened w/o any new information (other than combine I guess). If he goes to MIN, it's going to get crazy.
This happens every year with rookie QBs. They're considered roughly second or third round NFL draft picks in December, by draft day they're top 15.
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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby Payton34 » Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:01 am

tstafford wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:29 am The hype machine around JJM is incredible. I remember saying ~3 months ago that he looked like he could be a steal in SF drafts. Now he might have moved so much to be an "avoid at cost". And all this has happened w/o any new information (other than combine I guess). If he goes to MIN, it's going to get crazy.
Minnesota... Heh, they might be drafting another Christian Ponder then... :D
12 teams, 6pts all TDs, 1/2 pt PPR. 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1K, 1D, 2 FLEX RB/WR/TE

QBs - P Mahomes,
RBs - Bijan, J Jacobs, K Walker, B Hall,
WRs - AJ Brown, J Waddle, DJ Moore, T Higgins, D London, Smith-Njigba, J Downs, AT Perry
TEs - D Kincaid, Musgrave
Ks - Boswell, McPherson
Ds - Texans, Jets

2024 - 3 1st rounders... Picks 1.5, 1.7, 1.11… 1 2nd 2.17… 1 3rd 3.31…

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby tstafford » Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:27 am

Pac_Eddy wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:27 am
tstafford wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:29 am The hype machine around JJM is incredible. I remember saying ~3 months ago that he looked like he could be a steal in SF drafts. Now he might have moved so much to be an "avoid at cost". And all this has happened w/o any new information (other than combine I guess). If he goes to MIN, it's going to get crazy.
This happens every year with rookie QBs. They're considered roughly second or third round NFL draft picks in December, by draft day they're top 15.
Sometimes they crash back down on Draft night - Levis and Willis come to mind (as a Titans fan). I wonder what happens with JJM (and Maye).

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:34 am

I thought Maye could fall, quite a bit, but now think four QBs are going to go early, probably 1-4, and then maybe six TOTAL in the 1st round.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby 81- » Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:16 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:34 am I thought Maye could fall, quite a bit, but now think four QBs are going to go early, probably 1-4, and then maybe six TOTAL in the 1st round.
if you want to throw premium draft picks away. go ahead. draft that 4th, 5th or 6th qb.

i think you are more likely to see 4.

it's that time of the year tho... talking heads love hyping qb's
12 Team, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1Flex, D, K, 10 Bench
1PPR, 0.5 point per carry.
Burrow, Richardson
AJ Brown, DJMoore, G Wilson, T Higgens, Sutton, Tillman, Melton
King Henry, Bijan, Pacheco, Mixon, Ford, JK
Hockenson, Musgrave
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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby smbkrypt24 » Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:37 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:13 pm Who is somebody you're avoiding in the draft?
Who is somebody you're going to reach on in this draft?

I'm avoiding Legette and Coleman.
I'm reaching on Pearsall and Bowers in TEP (if it even IS a reach).
Good question.

Reaching: I reached/overpaid for MHJ in 2 leagues and bought for fair market value in another.
Avoiding: Odunze, Leggette, Daniels
12 Team PPR Dynasty. Start 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 D, 21 roster spots.

2013 Startup
Team 1- 3rd in 2023
QB: Herbert, B. Purdy, Fields
RB: Bijan, Barkley, Akers, Dobbins
WR: T. Hill, D. Johnson, JSN, Doubs, Meyers, Thomas, Toney
TE: Andrews, Likely, Dulcic

2024: 1.01, 1.07
2025: 1, 2, 2

2019 Startup
Team 2- 4th in 2023
QB: Murray, Cousins, Wilson
RB: Bijan, Kamara, Dobbins, Rodriguez
WR: Chase, G. Wilson, D. Adams, Di. Johnson, M. Wilson, W. Robinson, R. Rice
TE: McBride, Pitts, Kmet, Likely

2024: 1.01, 1.06, 1.08, 2.09
2025: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3

2021 Startup
Team 3- 11th in 2023
QB: Goff, Watson, Cousins, Levis, Rodgers, Young
RB: Gibbs, Pacheco, Dobbins
WR: Chase, J. Jefferson, JSN, Palmer, Mooney, Tillman
TE: Schultz, Pitts, Likely, Okonkwo

2024: 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 1.04, 2.03, 2.06, 2.07, 2.10, 3.03, 3.06, 3.08
2025: 1, 2, 3

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:49 am

81- wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:16 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:34 am I thought Maye could fall, quite a bit, but now think four QBs are going to go early, probably 1-4, and then maybe six TOTAL in the 1st round.
if you want to throw premium draft picks away. go ahead. draft that 4th, 5th or 6th qb.

i think you are more likely to see 4.

it's that time of the year tho... talking heads love hyping qb's
Sorry, I meant 1-4 in the NFL draft, with six TOTAL QBs going in the first round of the NFL draft. I think Penix/Nix in Superflex are going to go early 2nd, later in 1 QB leagues.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby 81- » Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:56 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:49 am
81- wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:16 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:34 am I thought Maye could fall, quite a bit, but now think four QBs are going to go early, probably 1-4, and then maybe six TOTAL in the 1st round.
if you want to throw premium draft picks away. go ahead. draft that 4th, 5th or 6th qb.

i think you are more likely to see 4.

it's that time of the year tho... talking heads love hyping qb's
Sorry, I meant 1-4 in the NFL draft, with six TOTAL QBs going in the first round of the NFL draft. I think Penix/Nix in Superflex are going to go early 2nd, later in 1 QB leagues.
I get it. I just don't see it happening. Next week we will know
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1PPR, 0.5 point per carry.
Burrow, Richardson
AJ Brown, DJMoore, G Wilson, T Higgens, Sutton, Tillman, Melton
King Henry, Bijan, Pacheco, Mixon, Ford, JK
Hockenson, Musgrave
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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby 81- » Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:57 am

smbkrypt24 wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:37 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:13 pm Who is somebody you're avoiding in the draft?
Who is somebody you're going to reach on in this draft?

I'm avoiding Legette and Coleman.
I'm reaching on Pearsall and Bowers in TEP (if it even IS a reach).
Good question.

Reaching: I reached/overpaid for MHJ in 2 leagues and bought for fair market value in another.
Avoiding: Odunze, Leggette, Daniels
I'm hoping somehow Daniels slides to me at 15. Would smash and grab him at 22 if he falls that far in my league. And he could. I snagged Richardson late in the 2nd last year
12 Team, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1Flex, D, K, 10 Bench
1PPR, 0.5 point per carry.
Burrow, Richardson
AJ Brown, DJMoore, G Wilson, T Higgens, Sutton, Tillman, Melton
King Henry, Bijan, Pacheco, Mixon, Ford, JK
Hockenson, Musgrave
Random Kicker
Niners

Picks in 2024 - #15, #22, #23, #27

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby 81- » Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:05 am

So the commodes err.... Commanders brought in jj, drake, danials and penix for top 30 visits at the same time. I like it
12 Team, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1Flex, D, K, 10 Bench
1PPR, 0.5 point per carry.
Burrow, Richardson
AJ Brown, DJMoore, G Wilson, T Higgens, Sutton, Tillman, Melton
King Henry, Bijan, Pacheco, Mixon, Ford, JK
Hockenson, Musgrave
Random Kicker
Niners

Picks in 2024 - #15, #22, #23, #27

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby murphysxm » Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:12 am

smbkrypt24 wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:37 am Avoiding: Odunze, Leggette, Daniels
Haven't seen Odunze's name associated with avoid very often. I personally love his cost compared to the other 2 WR studs. I don't expect him to be that far behind in production.
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