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Re: Javonte Williams Thread

Postby Lumps » Tue May 16, 2023 2:47 pm

Valhalla wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:42 pm
gogobradyarm wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:40 pm
Lumps wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:21 pm

Since when has ADP ever been a direct indicator to athleticism?
Nothing indicated this was athleticism, perhaps I misread
Dude why are you insisting these guys don't have the athleticism for the NFL?
You heard me. Javonte Williams is less athletic than my great uncle.
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Re: Javonte Williams Thread

Postby Bulletproof » Tue May 16, 2023 3:32 pm

Lumps wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:47 pm
You heard me. Javonte Williams is less athletic than my great uncle.
Who’s defining athleticism and how is it being defined?

Looks fairly athletic to me

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Re: Javonte Williams Thread

Postby Valhalla » Tue May 16, 2023 4:32 pm

Lumps wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:47 pm
Valhalla wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:42 pm
gogobradyarm wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:40 pm

Nothing indicated this was athleticism, perhaps I misread
Dude why are you insisting these guys don't have the athleticism for the NFL?
You heard me. Javonte Williams is less athletic than my great uncle.
You related to Barry Sanders or something? Can I send you some cards to get signed for me?

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Re: Javonte Williams Thread

Postby Lumps » Tue May 16, 2023 4:47 pm

Valhalla wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:32 pm
Lumps wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:47 pm
Valhalla wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:42 pm

Dude why are you insisting these guys don't have the athleticism for the NFL?
You heard me. Javonte Williams is less athletic than my great uncle.
You related to Barry Sanders or something? Can I send you some cards to get signed for me?
Barry is my Grandfather. Marshall Faulk is my great uncle.

*I honestly have no idea what we are talking about anymore. :lol:

Athletically, Javonte was not on the level of Dobbins and Saquon. These kind of injuries have a way of sapping explosion and speed. Those two had speed to give. Javonte and his *checks notes* 39th percentile 10 yard split doesn't have the same amount to give, to not be a plodder.

I'm not going to reiterate my stance as I've said it, Murphy has said the same thing, and Jigga as well.
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Re: Javonte Williams Thread

Postby Bronco Billy » Tue May 16, 2023 5:10 pm

Lumps wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:47 pm
Valhalla wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:32 pm
Lumps wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:47 pm

You heard me. Javonte Williams is less athletic than my great uncle.
You related to Barry Sanders or something? Can I send you some cards to get signed for me?
Barry is my Grandfather. Marshall Faulk is my great uncle.

*I honestly have no idea what we are talking about anymore. :lol:

Athletically, Javonte was not on the level of Dobbins and Saquon. These kind of injuries have a way of sapping explosion and speed. Those two had speed to give. Javonte and his *checks notes* 39th percentile 10 yard split doesn't have the same amount to give, to not be a plodder.

I'm not going to reiterate my stance as I've said it, Murphy has said the same thing, and Jigga as well.
Yes, we all know how important a fast 10 yd split in the 40 is.

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Re: Javonte Williams Thread

Postby Valhalla » Tue May 16, 2023 8:42 pm

Lumps wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:47 pm
Valhalla wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:32 pm
Lumps wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:47 pm

You heard me. Javonte Williams is less athletic than my great uncle.
You related to Barry Sanders or something? Can I send you some cards to get signed for me?
Barry is my Grandfather. Marshall Faulk is my great uncle.

*I honestly have no idea what we are talking about anymore. :lol:

Athletically, Javonte was not on the level of Dobbins and Saquon. These kind of injuries have a way of sapping explosion and speed. Those two had speed to give. Javonte and his *checks notes* 39th percentile 10 yard split doesn't have the same amount to give, to not be a plodder.

I'm not going to reiterate my stance as I've said it, Murphy has said the same thing, and Jigga as well.
So would it be fair to say you’d classify Javonte as a slower, weaker, smaller, probably more clumsy and less dedicated late career Carlos Hyde then, and he also has bad hygiene? I like your bold calls!

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Re: Javonte Williams Thread

Postby Bronco Billy » Wed May 17, 2023 4:04 am

Lumps wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:47 pm
Valhalla wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:42 pm
gogobradyarm wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:40 pm

Nothing indicated this was athleticism, perhaps I misread
Dude why are you insisting these guys don't have the athleticism for the NFL?
You heard me. Javonte Williams is less athletic than my great uncle.
Maybe, but your great uncle was a fumbler.

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Re: Javonte Williams Thread

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed May 17, 2023 5:46 am

Bronco Billy wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 4:04 am
Lumps wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:47 pm
Valhalla wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:42 pm

Dude why are you insisting these guys don't have the athleticism for the NFL?
You heard me. Javonte Williams is less athletic than my great uncle.
Maybe, but your great uncle was a fumbler.
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Re: Javonte Williams Thread

Postby NWABCS » Wed May 17, 2023 7:42 am

Bronco Billy wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 4:04 am
Lumps wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:47 pm
Valhalla wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:42 pm

Dude why are you insisting these guys don't have the athleticism for the NFL?
You heard me. Javonte Williams is less athletic than my great uncle.
Maybe, but your great uncle was a fumbler.
His great uncle WAS... IS... Melvin Gordon? :?:
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Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1 R/W/T, 3W/T, 1SF, 1K, 1 DEF

QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Lawrence
RB: Bijan Robinson, J. Taylor, Etienne, B. Hall, Roschon Johnson, Najee
WR/TE: J. Jefferson, D. Samuel, AJ Brown, DJ Moore, J. Chase, Waddle, Nico Collins, Rashee Rice
K: Butker
DEF: Bills
2024 picks: 1.11, 3.04
2025 picks: 1st, two 2nds

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Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1R/W/T, 3 W/T, 1SF

QB: Mahomes, Josh Allen, Aidan O'Connell, Mason Rudolph
RB: Javonte Williams, Barkley, Etienne, D. Foreman, K. Herbert, N. Harris, Chris Rodriguez
WR/TE: D. Adams, DJ Moore, Puca Nacua, DK Metcalf, Waddle, Pittman, Drake London, ARSB
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.01, 2.12, 3.05, 3.11, 4.02, 4.04, 4.09, 4.10, 4.11, 5.01 5.05
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Re: Javonte Williams Thread

Postby Lumps » Wed May 17, 2023 7:45 am

Bronco Billy wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 4:04 am
Lumps wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:47 pm
Valhalla wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:42 pm

Dude why are you insisting these guys don't have the athleticism for the NFL?
You heard me. Javonte Williams is less athletic than my great uncle.
Maybe, but your great uncle was a fumbler.
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Re: Javonte Williams Thread

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Sep 24, 2023 11:13 pm

Just not seeing it right now, he's not the same player....yet, and the situation sucks. Looks like another lost year of non difference making production, and in fact, detrimental production, as he's doing just enough to consider starting, and not doing much.

With this D, not seeing a lot of Javonte positive game scripts, and the only guy in this offense that excites me for the future is one Marvin Mims. Seems like this roster will be overhauled in the next year and change, and Mims is a keeper, conisidering he's the first pick of this regime, but I think Payton guts this team.

They lost by 50 this week. Have you watched my Raiders the past 2 weeks? :lol: They lost to THAT team. AT Mile High. This is a complete tear down incoming....
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Re: Javonte Williams Thread

Postby Anteaters » Mon Sep 25, 2023 5:22 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 11:13 pm Just not seeing it right now, he's not the same player....yet, and the situation sucks. Looks like another lost year of non difference making production, and in fact, detrimental production, as he's doing just enough to consider starting, and not doing much.

With this D, not seeing a lot of Javonte positive game scripts, and the only guy in this offense that excites me for the future is one Marvin Mims. Seems like this roster will be overhauled in the next year and change, and Mims is a keeper, conisidering he's the first pick of this regime, but I think Payton guts this team.

They lost by 50 this week. Have you watched my Raiders the past 2 weeks? :lol: They lost to THAT team. AT Mile High. This is a complete tear down incoming....
Agree this is beginning to look like a placeholder season for Javonte. Payton is just setting the table for the offseason where he'll try to unload Russ, draft/acquire a new QB, and polish the resetting of the trenches. He has the job security to let this season be a slog.
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12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
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QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
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Re: Javonte Williams Thread

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:08 pm

Is he dead? 😢
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Javonte Williams Thread

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:40 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:08 pm Is he dead? 😢
Not a great season for the Ja Williams

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Re: Javonte Williams Thread

Postby Prison_Mike » Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:26 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:08 pm Is he dead? 😢
Probably. I agree with FF above that it's probably a lost season. He's got 'very good starting RB' in his range of outcomes at some point, and is becoming dirt cheap. I'm still buying if the price is right


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