Flip Saquon Barkley or Build Around Him?

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Flip Saquon Barkley or Build Around Him?

Postby PioneerMan » Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:40 pm

I am in full rebuild mode but a bluebird landed in my lap. I was able to land Saquon Barkley. How does this change my outlook and rebuild?
Team 1: 14 team, 22 roster spots, 1/2 ppr standard dynasty league, 23 roaster sports.

QB: Jordan Love, Daniel Jones, Drew Lock, Sam Howell
RB: Ken Walker, Jahmyr Gibbs, Isiah Pachecko, Jerome Ford,
WR: Drake London, Devonta Smith, Jaxon Smith Njigba, Wan'Dale Robinson, DJ Chark, Josh Palmer, Darnell Mooney
TE: Michael Mayer, Juan Johnson,

2024 1.05, 1.10, 2.05 (19th), 2.14, 3.10

Team 2: 10 team, full PPR, 20 roaster spots +4 Taxi

QB: Patrick Mahomes, Jared Goff
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Breece Hall, D'Andre Swift, Emari Demercado, Jeff Wilson
WR: Davante Adams, Garret Wilson, Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill, Christian Watson, Jameson Williams, Chrstian Kirk, Josh Downs
TE: Dallas Goedert, Michael Mayer, Juwan Johnson

2024: 1:10, 2:10, 3:10
2025 1st, 2nd, 3rd

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Re: Flip Saquon Barkley or Build Around Him?

Postby never_punts » Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:46 pm

This team is a few drafts away

I'd use Barkley in-season to get a stud WR and/or TE + add to your collection of 1sts

I'd try to get someone in that 2nd tier of young wrs and some 1sts
Team #1: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 4pt Pass - IDP
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX | DL, LB, DB
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QB: Burrow - Lamar - Kyler
RB: Ekeler - Saquon - Gainwell
WR: Amon Ra - Hopkins - Godwin - K.Allen- QJ - Hollywood - Diontae - Shaheed- Wandale - Woods
TE: Kelce - Engram - Ferg - Chig
DL: Hunter | LB: Okereke | DB: Bynum
'24 Picks: Late 1st, Early 2nd, Late 2nd

Team #2: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 6pt Pass - TE Prem
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX
Team #2 (0-0)
QB: Murray - Allen - Winston
RB: Cook - Saquon - Mattison - Hull
WR: Diontae - Tyreek - Lockett - Higgins - Chark - TMJ - Kirk - Dell
TE: Ertz - Engram - Mayer
'24 Picks: My 1st, 2nd, and 3rd

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Re: Flip Saquon Barkley or Build Around Him?

Postby Yarnith » Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:01 pm

Shop him for sure. Just put him out there and look for the offer that blows you away. Many have cooled on him but there are still plenty who believe. Don't settle for less than an overpay and worse case you hope he has a healthy year showing some talent off to fire up the market for you later in the season.
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RB: A. Kamara, J. Taylor, CEH, K. Gainwell, P. Strong
WR: A.J. Brown, A. Cooper, J. Dotson, C. Ridley, E. Moore, W. Robinson, J. Meyers, T. Marshall,
TE: G. Kittle, J. Johnson, J. Woods, H. Henry
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Re: Flip Saquon Barkley or Build Around Him?

Postby Towman27 » Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:08 pm

How did you land him?
12 Team Dynasty - .5PPR - 6 pt TD All
28 Roster - Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, K, D

QB: Mahomes, Fitz
RB: A. Jones, Mixon, D. Henderson, JRob,
Dillon, Scott, Kelley, Ahmed
WR: Adams, Sutton, Golladay, AB, Mooney,
M.Callaway, Kirk, P. Williams, A. Miller
TE: Goedert, Jonnu, I. Smith, Everett
K: Tucker
D: Saints, Football Team

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2021: 1.9
2022: 2nd / 3rd
2023: 1st / 2nd / 3rd

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Re: Flip Saquon Barkley or Build Around Him?

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:09 pm

Flip him. You don't build around RB's in rebuilds of this magnitude. You need to get a combo of picks and a good young proven WR, IMO.
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Re: Flip Saquon Barkley or Build Around Him?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:55 pm

Based on your build and length of rebuild, definitely make him available to your whole league. Dont force a quick deal and hold until the right deal that helps you the most in your rebuild comes. His value is possibly at one of its lowest currently but is also slowly rebounding, so stay patient in this process.

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Re: Flip Saquon Barkley or Build Around Him?

Postby FiremanEd » Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:44 pm

Agree you will wait for the right deal and sell him. Quality prospects (WR) and picks. Hopefully he shows out when games start and folks get bullish again.

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Re: Flip Saquon Barkley or Build Around Him?

Postby PioneerMan » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:29 pm

Towman27 wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:08 pm How did you land him?
Gave up Juedy, Mike Davis, Darrel Henderson, Darius Clayton, 2022 2nd
Team 1: 14 team, 22 roster spots, 1/2 ppr standard dynasty league, 23 roaster sports.

QB: Jordan Love, Daniel Jones, Drew Lock, Sam Howell
RB: Ken Walker, Jahmyr Gibbs, Isiah Pachecko, Jerome Ford,
WR: Drake London, Devonta Smith, Jaxon Smith Njigba, Wan'Dale Robinson, DJ Chark, Josh Palmer, Darnell Mooney
TE: Michael Mayer, Juan Johnson,

2024 1.05, 1.10, 2.05 (19th), 2.14, 3.10

Team 2: 10 team, full PPR, 20 roaster spots +4 Taxi

QB: Patrick Mahomes, Jared Goff
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Breece Hall, D'Andre Swift, Emari Demercado, Jeff Wilson
WR: Davante Adams, Garret Wilson, Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill, Christian Watson, Jameson Williams, Chrstian Kirk, Josh Downs
TE: Dallas Goedert, Michael Mayer, Juwan Johnson

2024: 1:10, 2:10, 3:10
2025 1st, 2nd, 3rd

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Re: Flip Saquon Barkley or Build Around Him?

Postby never_punts » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:31 pm

PioneerMan wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:29 pm
Towman27 wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:08 pm How did you land him?
Gave up Juedy, Mike Davis, Darrel Henderson, Darius Clayton, 2022 2nd
What was the guy trading Barkley hoping to gain from this? Wild
Team #1: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 4pt Pass - IDP
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX | DL, LB, DB
The Moore the Murray-er (2022 Champ 8-) )
QB: Burrow - Lamar - Kyler
RB: Ekeler - Saquon - Gainwell
WR: Amon Ra - Hopkins - Godwin - K.Allen- QJ - Hollywood - Diontae - Shaheed- Wandale - Woods
TE: Kelce - Engram - Ferg - Chig
DL: Hunter | LB: Okereke | DB: Bynum
'24 Picks: Late 1st, Early 2nd, Late 2nd

Team #2: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 6pt Pass - TE Prem
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX
Team #2 (0-0)
QB: Murray - Allen - Winston
RB: Cook - Saquon - Mattison - Hull
WR: Diontae - Tyreek - Lockett - Higgins - Chark - TMJ - Kirk - Dell
TE: Ertz - Engram - Mayer
'24 Picks: My 1st, 2nd, and 3rd

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Re: Flip Saquon Barkley or Build Around Him?

Postby McCafsteez » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:49 pm

never_punts wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:31 pm
PioneerMan wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:29 pm
Towman27 wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:08 pm How did you land him?
Gave up Juedy, Mike Davis, Darrel Henderson, Darius Clayton, 2022 2nd
What was the guy trading Barkley hoping to gain from this? Wild
LOL x2. Horrible deal for owner giving away Barkley.
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WR: Adams, Hill, Hopkins, Robinson
TE: Waller, Engram
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RB: Bijan, Gibbs, A. Jones
WR: Metcalf, JSN, Addison, Q. Johnston, Mingo, Rice
TE: Kincaid, Mayer, Gesicki
2024 Picks - (x3) 1sts
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Re: Flip Saquon Barkley or Build Around Him?

Postby PioneerMan » Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:07 pm

I am thinking about a three way trade that would get me my 1st round pick back (likely 1.01).

Send: Saquon
Get: Rashod Batman, 2022 1.01 (likely) and 2022 early 1st (this team came in last last season)

Thoughts?
Team 1: 14 team, 22 roster spots, 1/2 ppr standard dynasty league, 23 roaster sports.

QB: Jordan Love, Daniel Jones, Drew Lock, Sam Howell
RB: Ken Walker, Jahmyr Gibbs, Isiah Pachecko, Jerome Ford,
WR: Drake London, Devonta Smith, Jaxon Smith Njigba, Wan'Dale Robinson, DJ Chark, Josh Palmer, Darnell Mooney
TE: Michael Mayer, Juan Johnson,

2024 1.05, 1.10, 2.05 (19th), 2.14, 3.10

Team 2: 10 team, full PPR, 20 roaster spots +4 Taxi

QB: Patrick Mahomes, Jared Goff
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Breece Hall, D'Andre Swift, Emari Demercado, Jeff Wilson
WR: Davante Adams, Garret Wilson, Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill, Christian Watson, Jameson Williams, Chrstian Kirk, Josh Downs
TE: Dallas Goedert, Michael Mayer, Juwan Johnson

2024: 1:10, 2:10, 3:10
2025 1st, 2nd, 3rd

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Re: Flip Saquon Barkley or Build Around Him?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:12 pm

PioneerMan wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:07 pm I am thinking about a three way trade that would get me my 1st round pick back (likely 1.01).

Send: Saquon
Get: Rashod Batman, 2022 1.01 (likely) and 2022 early 1st (this team came in last last season)

Thoughts?
The two early 1sts are big for your rebuild, but I would be hoping for more of a sure thing/solid young piece. It may be a lot to ask, but moving Barkley for three unknowns could backfire.

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Re: Flip Saquon Barkley or Build Around Him?

Postby jwb32 » Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:48 pm

PioneerMan wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:07 pm I am thinking about a three way trade that would get me my 1st round pick back (likely 1.01).

Send: Saquon
Get: Rashod Batman, 2022 1.01 (likely) and 2022 early 1st (this team came in last last season)

Thoughts?
2 early 1sts + Bateman?? In a complete rebuild? Yes please!
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)

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Re: Flip Saquon Barkley or Build Around Him?

Postby halfbaked88 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:08 am

jwb32 wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:48 pm
PioneerMan wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:07 pm I am thinking about a three way trade that would get me my 1st round pick back (likely 1.01).

Send: Saquon
Get: Rashod Batman, 2022 1.01 (likely) and 2022 early 1st (this team came in last last season)

Thoughts?
2 early 1sts + Bateman?? In a complete rebuild? Yes please!
Agreed. If you try to seek out a better WR than Bateman, yes, it'll be more of a sure thing, but you'll likely have to lose one of the 1sts, or take later picks. It'd be nice to get back a DJ Moore, Higgins, or Aiyuk level WR and 2 early firsts though...

But if you know they're gonna be early picks, or for sure one is then 1.01 and another top 4/5 pick then I'd feel confident pushing accept.


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