Package for Pick

[Lazy Ass Mastermind]

Roster in signature.. 7 keeper league. I clearly don't have 7 players worth keeping.

Should I make this trade? Am I ridiculous for even asking?

I get: James Conner, Diontae Johnson, Tee Higgins

for: Pick 2.08 in the draft // (remember this is a little more valuable than the rookie 2.08 since there are veterans in the draft as well)

[Gator Sens]

Seems like a great move if you can pull it off, but I'm guessing this is a very light offer even with the elevated pick value.

[never_punts]

I can't imagine there's enough in that draft that you can get Johnson AND Higgins for the 2.08

Any idea what the pool will look like?

[OhSnapItsAnt]

If this is on the table it’s a smash accept…
If you’re offering this it’s super super light..

84 players are being kept in the league.. Higgins is typically ranked around 40th over all.. that means Tee Higgins alone is worth way more then the pick… so you’re also getting Diontae and Conner for free?

Maybe I’m reading this wrong but it doesn’t seem right

[Lazy Ass Mastermind]

No, you guys are reading it right. This is actually on the table.

The guy trading with me is a powerhouse and has 10+ players that he can keep, so he's willing to unload some of them for cheap. He's also motivated to make sure other loaded teams in the league can't get their hands on these guys in the draft.

Not sure why I'm having reservations.. I think it could be the fact that this guy is so loaded that it feels like I'm making a deal with the devil. Also I'm not excited about Conner and I need RBs but that's a story for another day I guess.

[OhSnapItsAnt]

No, you guys are reading it right. This is actually on the table.

The guy trading with me is a powerhouse and has 10+ players that he can keep, so he's willing to unload some of them for cheap. He's also motivated to make sure other loaded teams in the league can't get their hands on these guys in the draft.

Not sure why I'm having reservations.. I think it could be the fact that this guy is so loaded that it feels like I'm making a deal with the devil. Also I'm not excited about Conner and I need RBs but that's a story for another day I guess.

I hate teams like that lol. I have one team in my league that wins huge on every trade he does lol..
but I’d still absolutely do this trade if I were you… let say he did drop Higgins, I’m not even sure if he’d last to the 2.8 if you kept it..
I wouldn’t care about anything other then your team, I’m super high on Higgins and I believe that Diontae can get that drop issue resolved though.
I just feel like no matter how you look at it, it’s a win for you.

[Bennyblanco22]

If this is on the table it’s a smash accept…
If you’re offering this it’s super super light..

84 players are being kept in the league.. Higgins is typically ranked around 40th over all.. that means Tee Higgins alone is worth way more then the pick… so you’re also getting Diontae and Conner for free?

Maybe I’m reading this wrong but it doesn’t seem right

This is exactly what I was coming down to say. I'm thinking it's likely the other guy has a stacked team and can't keep them all, and so he's looking to roll over some value from this year to next. In a keeper league vs dynasty, these are the hard hitting questions year to year.

Any time you're in a keeper league (usually 6+ but sometimes can pull this off with less) and don't have enough evident keepers, always seek out the most stacked teams and offer up picks lower than his 'losable keeper'. Example like ant said, Higgins is worth a 4th-6th round start up pick. Team X has 8 locked n loaded keepers (keep 6 in this example) and Higgins is one who may be on the bubble, i like to send offers of like a 6th or 7th for those bubble guys on his roster, but sure fire keeper on my squad. With the keepers off the board this would typically be something like a 12th or later start up pick. Even if he counters, it's typically still good value because the stacked owner has no leverage. This is all pretty basic stuff but for anyone who may not play keeper or may not have thought of it then this is for you guys.

[Lazy Ass Mastermind]

If this is on the table it’s a smash accept…
If you’re offering this it’s super super light..

84 players are being kept in the league.. Higgins is typically ranked around 40th over all.. that means Tee Higgins alone is worth way more then the pick… so you’re also getting Diontae and Conner for free?

Maybe I’m reading this wrong but it doesn’t seem right

This is exactly what I was coming down to say. I'm thinking it's likely the other guy has a stacked team and can't keep them all, and so he's looking to roll over some value from this year to next. In a keeper league vs dynasty, these are the hard hitting questions year to year.

Any time you're in a keeper league (usually 6+ but sometimes can pull this off with less) and don't have enough evident keepers, always seek out the most stacked teams and offer up picks lower than his 'losable keeper'. Example like ant said, Higgins is worth a 4th-6th round start up pick. Team X has 8 locked n loaded keepers (keep 6 in this example) and Higgins is one who may be on the bubble, i like to send offers of like a 6th or 7th for those bubble guys on his roster, but sure fire keeper on my squad. With the keepers off the board this would typically be something like a 12th or later start up pick. Even if he counters, it's typically still good value because the stacked owner has no leverage. This is all pretty basic stuff but for anyone who may not play keeper or may not have thought of it then this is for you guys.

Thanks for this. It’s tough to find good deep keeper advice like this. All the content out there is geared towards redraft or dynasty, and this league is kind of a blend of both. I lean heavily on dynasty advice but there are subtle differences such as the advice you’re giving here. I appreciate it.

[repkllrs]

Either of Higgins/Diontae would be worth that pick in a combined rook/vet draft. Both is a smash accept.

[Finfansteve]

Hopefully you’ve accepted already cause that’s insane value for that pick

[Finfansteve]

If this is on the table it’s a smash accept…
If you’re offering this it’s super super light..

84 players are being kept in the league.. Higgins is typically ranked around 40th over all.. that means Tee Higgins alone is worth way more then the pick… so you’re also getting Diontae and Conner for free?

Maybe I’m reading this wrong but it doesn’t seem right

This is exactly what I was coming down to say. I'm thinking it's likely the other guy has a stacked team and can't keep them all, and so he's looking to roll over some value from this year to next. In a keeper league vs dynasty, these are the hard hitting questions year to year.

Any time you're in a keeper league (usually 6+ but sometimes can pull this off with less) and don't have enough evident keepers, always seek out the most stacked teams and offer up picks lower than his 'losable keeper'. Example like ant said, Higgins is worth a 4th-6th round start up pick. Team X has 8 locked n loaded keepers (keep 6 in this example) and Higgins is one who may be on the bubble, i like to send offers of like a 6th or 7th for those bubble guys on his roster, but sure fire keeper on my squad. With the keepers off the board this would typically be something like a 12th or later start up pick. Even if he counters, it's typically still good value because the stacked owner has no leverage. This is all pretty basic stuff but for anyone who may not play keeper or may not have thought of it then this is for you guys.

This is excellent advice. I’m in a keep 9 and I’ve taken peanuts this offseason for dionte, juju, Julio, and others because I honestly wouldn’t be able to keep them under the league guidelines. I’d basically take anything for them but I was lucky enough to package them up with various picks to move up in the draft to 1.03 and 1.01 but guys with too many to keep will take anything for their extra players and you should be looking to swoop in cause it’s either trade them for less than they’re worth or cut them for nothing in return

[Lazy Ass Mastermind]

Predictably so my friend backed out of the proposal and is now offering only 1 of the WRs (whichever I prefer) and Conner.

Still a smash accept? If so which WR should I take?

[Bennyblanco22]

Yup. Id try to take conner out and get both wrs, even if you have to add a later pick or maybe a pick swap, on top of the second you'd be giving up. Not a fan of conner at all. Some are higher on him, but unless you are very light for keepers he probably won't make the cut anyway. Higgins first for me though if nothing else. You still might be able to get the original deal done if you remind him that he won't be able to keep them all. He almost certainly already knows this but may fold under a little pressure.