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Tight ends outside the top 10 that you're targeting?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:00 pm
by Ski mask ready
What TE's do you like and who are you targeting everywhere?
Re: Tight ends outside the top 10 that you're targeting?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:03 pm
by StripesOfKC
Adam Trautman
Give me all those shares (can explain why)
Re: Tight ends outside the top 10 that you're targeting?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:11 pm
by Ski mask ready
StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:03 pm
Adam Trautman
Give me all those shares (can explain why)
What is there to love there??
Re: Tight ends outside the top 10 that you're targeting?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:44 pm
by StripesOfKC
Ski mask ready wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:11 pm
StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:03 pm
Adam Trautman
Give me all those shares (can explain why)
What is there to love there??
He has 3rd round capital and moreover the Saints traded away all their day 3 picks last year to move up for him. They let Jared Cook and Josh Hill walk this offseason and didn't spend major resources on the position to solidify him as TE1 on the depth chart
They also let Emmanuel Sanders walk and didn't add a second WR opposite MT leaving a lot of targets for a TE to step into (even with Kamara taking a good chunk of passing game work)--possibly even as a clear number 2 passing option in New Orleans
And statistically: his number of routes run was consistently hitting double digits (more involvement in the passing game) by the end of the year and though a limited sample he had a 93.8% true catch rate meaning his hands were solid
His college profile is pretty good too as he hits the sweet spot of height (6'5'') and weight (255 lbs) for a TE and was very productive early and often at Dayton with a 19.6 breakout age and 38.1% dominator (97th percentile) with an 8.75 (out of 10--so lower end of elite) relative athletic score (Athleticism matters a ton for TEs--hard to find elite TEs with an RAS below 8)
The coaches seem to love him too and he has a really good offensive head coach who was on board with that trade up for him.
Also, he earned a stellar 79.4 PFF grade meaning even when he wasn't running routes he was having a nice season on the field blocking--enough to get snaps and the favor of the coaching staff
Fant and Hockenson had PFF grades of 52 and 60.5 respectively as rookies before climbing into the 70s as sophomores
Andrews had a 75.7 grade that preceded his sophomore breakout (which got him a 90.8) and Kittle had a 65.8 grade as a rookie before his breakout (89.7) the next year
To give an idea how PFF grades predict future production
Re: Tight ends outside the top 10 that you're targeting?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:38 pm
by jordanzs
I'm grabbing Everett for free whenever I can.
I'm also grabbing Kylen Granson at the back end of my drafts & sticking him deep onto taxi squads.
Re: Tight ends outside the top 10 that you're targeting?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:45 pm
by wickerkat1212
Firkser, but the Julio news dampens this pick.
Tonyan, assuming Rodgers comes back.
Irv Smith, hoping for him to evolve/emerge.
Kmet, now is his time to take a step UP with Fields.
Trautman, same story, especially if Winston is QB.
Alie-Cox, seeing him on a lot of sleeper lists.
Re: Tight ends outside the top 10 that you're targeting?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:04 pm
by Pew Dogs
I’m still on the Donald Parham train. Eyeball test. This is dynasty so a 34 year old Cook with a 2nd year maybe stud QB is the perfect way to drop the asking price. Plus, he’s likely cheap enough that a swing and a miss won’t hurt too much.
Re: Tight ends outside the top 10 that you're targeting?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:14 pm
by Ski mask ready
StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:44 pm
Ski mask ready wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:11 pm
StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:03 pm
Adam Trautman
Give me all those shares (can explain why)
What is there to love there??
He has 3rd round capital and moreover the Saints traded away all their day 3 picks last year to move up for him. They let Jared Cook and Josh Hill walk this offseason and didn't spend major resources on the position to solidify him as TE1 on the depth chart
They also let Emmanuel Sanders walk and didn't add a second WR opposite MT leaving a lot of targets for a TE to step into (even with Kamara taking a good chunk of passing game work)--possibly even as a clear number 2 passing option in New Orleans
And statistically: his number of routes run was consistently hitting double digits (more involvement in the passing game) by the end of the year and though a limited sample he had a 93.8% true catch rate meaning his hands were solid
His college profile is pretty good too as he hits the sweet spot of height (6'5'') and weight (255 lbs) for a TE and was very productive early and often at Dayton with a 19.6 breakout age and 38.1% dominator (97th percentile) with an 8.75 (out of 10--so lower end of elite) relative athletic score (Athleticism matters a ton for TEs--hard to find elite TEs with an RAS below 8)
The coaches seem to love him too and he has a really good offensive head coach who was on board with that trade up for him.
Also, he earned a stellar 79.4 PFF grade meaning even when he wasn't running routes he was having a nice season on the field blocking--enough to get snaps and the favor of the coaching staff
Fant and Hockenson had PFF grades of 52 and 60.5 respectively as rookies before climbing into the 70s as sophomores
Andrews had a 75.7 grade that preceded his sophomore breakout (which got him a 90.8) and Kittle had a 65.8 grade as a rookie before his breakout (89.7) the next year
To give an idea how PFF grades predict future production
Nice rundown. I'm gonna peek around a bit on him
Re: Tight ends outside the top 10 that you're targeting?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:43 pm
by Cameron Giles
Higbee. I think he's a good bounce back candidate, especially with Stafford in town and Everett gone.
Re: Tight ends outside the top 10 that you're targeting?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:43 pm
by StripesOfKC
I'll throw shout outs to Hunter Long as a 2022 stash and Kylen Granson on an Indy team with no established pass catchers as well (though he has Carson Wentz at QB so not sure if he has any chance to show out this year)
Re: Tight ends outside the top 10 that you're targeting?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:50 pm
by Pac_Eddy
Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:43 pm
Higbee. I think he's a good bounce back candidate, especially with Stafford in town and Everett gone.
Why do you like Stafford over Goff for Higbee?
Re: Tight ends outside the top 10 that you're targeting?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:04 pm
by DynastyKing23
StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:03 pm
Adam Trautman
Give me all those shares (can explain why)
100% agree.
I scouted him and snatched him off the waiver wire in preseason last year knowing he would sit on my bench all year and probably not even score or be active on a weekly basis. Many questioned why waste a roster spot but I had the foresight to know that cook was going to be gone after the year and trautman was just sitting the first year to learn. Guy us a superb talent and most league winning TE like kelce and kittle come outta nowhere, I believe trautman will follow that same path. And if I'm wrong he's still cheap enough to take a gamble on.
I'm also sitting on jarwin whos been all but forgotten after his injury week 1 last year, let's not forget he was a top breakout candidate. Prob pretty cheap to aquire.
Re: Tight ends outside the top 10 that you're targeting?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:08 pm
by Cameron Giles
Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:50 pm
Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:43 pm
Higbee. I think he's a good bounce back candidate, especially with Stafford in town and Everett gone.
Why do you like Stafford over Goff for Higbee?
Stafford is just a better QB in general than Goff. It's a notable upgrade.
Re: Tight ends outside the top 10 that you're targeting?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:46 pm
by jordanzs
How about a very deep sleeper? I grabbed him in round 32 of a 36 round SF/TE premium best ball startup last month: Jacob Hollister
He's now with Buffalo. Reunited with his college QB. What if Dawson Knox sucks? Hollister had a few decent games in Seattle.
Also in Round 33 I grabbed Thaddeus Moss, who is reunited with his college QB in Cincy.
Of course my top 3 TEs are Pitts, Irv Smith, Trautman, so I'm probably ok if my lottery tickets don't pan out.
Re: Tight ends outside the top 10 that you're targeting?
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:57 pm
by brward
Post hype sleeper Chris Herndon