Tight ends outside the top 10 that you're targeting?

[Sriracha]

Outside of the top 10 I'm really only targeting lotto picks.

We know enough about the hyped players outside of the top 10 to be very skeptical of them ever reaching an elite ceiling.. and their price at this point already assumes they're going to be TE1s. There just isn't all that much value to gain with them at this point, imo.

With that said, the TE's I'm targeting are: Jacob Harris, Tommy Tremble, OJ Howard

[Hottoddies]

Outside of the top 10 I'm really only targeting lotto picks.

We know enough about the hyped players outside of the top 10 to be very skeptical of them ever reaching an elite ceiling.. and their price at this point already assumes they're going to be TE1s. There just isn't all that much value to gain with them at this point, imo.

With that said, the TE's I'm targeting are: Jacob Harris, Tommy Tremble, OJ Howard

I believe the Rams have listed Jacob Harris as a WR.

[Sriracha]

Outside of the top 10 I'm really only targeting lotto picks.

We know enough about the hyped players outside of the top 10 to be very skeptical of them ever reaching an elite ceiling.. and their price at this point already assumes they're going to be TE1s. There just isn't all that much value to gain with them at this point, imo.

With that said, the TE's I'm targeting are: Jacob Harris, Tommy Tremble, OJ Howard

I believe the Rams have listed Jacob Harris as a WR.

I might've missed something, but everything I've seen up to this point has him listed as a TE?

[Hottoddies]

Outside of the top 10 I'm really only targeting lotto picks.

We know enough about the hyped players outside of the top 10 to be very skeptical of them ever reaching an elite ceiling.. and their price at this point already assumes they're going to be TE1s. There just isn't all that much value to gain with them at this point, imo.

With that said, the TE's I'm targeting are: Jacob Harris, Tommy Tremble, OJ Howard

I believe the Rams have listed Jacob Harris as a WR.

I might've missed something, but everything I've seen up to this point has him listed as a TE?

I was basing this off of a June 4th Rotoworld blurb that I saw. However, the Rams have been running him as a TE in practise and the fantasy sites have him listed as a TE, so Rotoworld could have this wrong. I did see a Rams' roster posted on ESPN that had Harris listed as WR. At 6'5" and 211 lbs. he would be kind of skinny even for WR standards. It would help his cause if he could put on a little more weight.

[Sriracha]

I believe the Rams have listed Jacob Harris as a WR.

I might've missed something, but everything I've seen up to this point has him listed as a TE?

I was basing this off of a June 4th Rotoworld blurb that I saw. However, the Rams have been running him as a TE in practise and the fantasy sites have him listed as a TE, so Rotoworld could have this wrong. I did see a Rams' roster posted on ESPN that had Harris listed as WR. At 6'5" and 211 lbs. he would be kind of skinny even for WR standards. It would help his cause if he could put on a little more weight.

I see, everything from the Rams have stated that they plan to use him as a TE (coming directly from the coaching staff) and he's been bulking up since he ended the college season, getting up to 219 by his pro day and I'd expect him to gain more weight as he continues his NFL career.

[Blueboy]

MN fan here: I’ve heard hype about Conklin getting a growing role, rather than Irv. Somewhat irritating both for fantasy and as a fan.

Seems like a Minnesota thing to do.

lol apparently Zimmer agreed. coach said Irv's role "won't grow" in 2021 and to curtail expectations for a Rudolph-esque receiving season

[Ski mask ready]

What about Njoku as a stash or is everyone off that train?

[Shoreline Steamers]

What about Njoku as a stash or is everyone off that train?

I still think Njoku could break out. He's young, and has a good profile but I don't see it happening for him in Cleveland. When there was talk of him being dealt last offseason I was intrigued. But it didn't happen, and they picked up his 5th year option. I don't expect a lot out of him in 2021, but could see him succeeding on another team in 2022.

[ArrylT]

Short Term:

Jordan Akins - Somewhat under the radar because he has not played a full season & obviously is not going to be playing with Watson, but likely to be lead TE in Houston now that Fells is gone and has improved his target share & yards/game each year while learning the position as a positional convert (used to play baseball & then was a WR).

Austin Hooper - 13 game production pro-rated over 16 games basically puts him as a low end TE1. I have said this before over the years, and no doubt I'll say it again many more, but 80*+ targets is the key to TE1 production. Hoopers pace was 86. The last 2 years he got 80+ targets he finished mid TE1 range. We should remember, like with WRs, it can take a full year for a TE to fully fit into a new team scheme. So if he was originally a 2nd round price and his ADP has dropped like a stone then if you can get him for a 4th seems like a low price to pay for a proven producer.

Jared Cook - As we have seen TE is a position that doesnt seem to hate players in their mid 30s. Hunter Henry had 93 targets in 14 games and Cook has been pretty consistent at getting that 5 target / game threshold you need for 80 targets / year these past 4 years despite different QBs & systems.

Players I do not expect to see (excluding injuries to other TEs) in the top 12 in 2021:

Blake Jarwin
Irv Smith

Has nothing to do with the players - just too much competition against them to safely project 80+ targets.

Long Term:

Eric Ebron
Evan Engram
OJ Howard
Hayden Hurst
David Njoku

Simply continue to bet on 1st round pedigree - as historical stats show (see data shared on dont spend 1st round pick on Pitts thread) how long and how favorable (in comparison to most TEs) 1st round TEs career production is. So even if they do not make the top 12 this season (and odds are that at least 1 or 2 will), they'll be consistently in the TE1 mix year after year. So if you can buy low & stash ...

* - As usual in 2020 only 2 of the top 12 did not have 80+ targets, 1 had 77 (and is a sure fire HOF) and the other had double digit TDs and Aaron Rodgers.

[Shcritters]

Yeah I got Everett in a TE Premium this off-season and he’s going to start as a FLEX more than likely since it’s deep lineups. 65/800/7 could be within his grasp.

And I totally forgot to add that his OC switched teams along with him. So there's familiarity there for Everett. Has to be a plus, right?

The biggest plus is the TE room. Dissly is fine and I like Parkinson but opportunity galore.

Man, if Dissly could only stay healthy he could be THE guy in Seattle. I remember him being lined up on Clowney 1:1 and stonewalling him while Russell ran around behind him until someone got open. He’s not the most athletic - and the injuries won’t help that - but so far in his career if he’s been healthy he’s been great.

Hope he can put it together for a full season.

[Pullo Vision]

Austin Hooper - 13 game production pro-rated over 16 games basically puts him as a low end TE1. I have said this before over the years, and no doubt I'll say it again many more, but 80*+ targets is the key to TE1 production. Hoopers pace was 86. The last 2 years he got 80+ targets he finished mid TE1 range. We should remember, like with WRs, it can take a full year for a TE to fully fit into a new team scheme. So if he was originally a 2nd round price and his ADP has dropped like a stone then if you can get him for a 4th seems like a low price to pay for a proven producer.

Not convinced at all. He had two big target games last year (15 and 10) but his rest of season target counts were uninspiring- 7, 6, pair of 5s, 2x4s, and 4x 2s. As soon as he landed in Cleveland and then they drafted Harrison Bryant, I cooled on Hooper big time as a short term asset.

that said, he's shown he can be very productive if a central part of the offense, so I think he becomes a buy low stash.

[ArrylT]

Austin Hooper - 13 game production pro-rated over 16 games basically puts him as a low end TE1. I have said this before over the years, and no doubt I'll say it again many more, but 80*+ targets is the key to TE1 production. Hoopers pace was 86. The last 2 years he got 80+ targets he finished mid TE1 range. We should remember, like with WRs, it can take a full year for a TE to fully fit into a new team scheme. So if he was originally a 2nd round price and his ADP has dropped like a stone then if you can get him for a 4th seems like a low price to pay for a proven producer.

Not convinced at all. He had two big target games last year (15 and 10) but his rest of season target counts were uninspiring- 7, 6, pair of 5s, 2x4s, and 4x 2s. As soon as he landed in Cleveland and then they drafted Harrison Bryant, I cooled on Hooper big time as a short term asset.

that said, he's shown he can be very productive if a central part of the offense, so I think he becomes a buy low stash.

Yeah I like Harrison Bryant and I can definitely see by 2022, or more likely 2023 assuming he keeps developing, having the chance to be the lead TE in Cleveland. A lot will depend on his progression. Hooper is there til 2023 due to his contract I believe.

As always, cost of acquisition is key. I think we both agree Hooper could be a buy low target.

[ColdZealDonkeyStrike]

What about Njoku as a stash or is everyone off that train?

I still think Njoku could break out. He's young, and has a good profile but I don't see it happening for him in Cleveland. When there was talk of him being dealt last offseason I was intrigued. But it didn't happen, and they picked up his 5th year option. I don't expect a lot out of him in 2021, but could see him succeeding on another team in 2022.

Same here. I'd be surprised if he doesn't at least have an Ebron-like resurgence when he changes teams (minus the flukey TD numbers for Ebron in Indy). He also seems like he has matured and improved as a blocker, and the coaches in Cleveland love him for that (hopefully not enough to resign him at market lol).

[atlmoneyman]

Irv Smith Jr.

[Shoreline Steamers]

What about Njoku as a stash or is everyone off that train?

I still think Njoku could break out. He's young, and has a good profile but I don't see it happening for him in Cleveland. When there was talk of him being dealt last offseason I was intrigued. But it didn't happen, and they picked up his 5th year option. I don't expect a lot out of him in 2021, but could see him succeeding on another team in 2022.

Same here. I'd be surprised if he doesn't at least have an Ebron-like resurgence when he changes teams (minus the flukey TD numbers for Ebron in Indy). He also seems like he has matured and improved as a blocker, and the coaches in Cleveland love him for that (hopefully not enough to resign him at market lol).

Agreed. Otherwise it's Bryant at TE who would be blocked. And I've got some eggs in that basket!